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posted on Sep, 13 2005 @ 06:32 PM
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Tortured,

I would suggest that you also get a full medical evaluation like some people here are suggesting. The best scenario is that they will find nothing wrong with you. Worst case scenario, you have something wrong like a tumor that is causing these things.

To me you sound like a very logical and sane person who has had a normal life so far, so I wouldn't bother with a psychological evaluation. If you go in saying that you are hearing and seeing things, they are obviously going to say you have schizophrenia or something. Be your own best judge in this area. You probably think you are totally fine. Ask all of your friends and family (seriously) if they have noticed a sudden change in your behaviour, or anything out-of-the ordinary about you. If you happen to personally know any psychitrists or psychologists, ask them for their opinion, but I wouldn't go talking to strangers about it.

I don't think you're crazy. Crazy people tend to not question what is happening to them, and accept it as normal. But anyways, try to go and get a clean bill of health. Then you can at least narrow it down to something 'paranormal' and then figure out how to deal with it. Robert A Monroe thought he was crazy when he started having Out Of Body Experiences. He immediately consulted all sorts of doctors, psychologists, etc but nobody could find what was wrong with him. He then went on to write several books on the topic. You say other people you know have seen her influence. This is also a good step into getting others to think you aren't totally crazy, or to give yourself confidence.

Have you ever tried asking this woman what she wants? Try questioning this 'being'. But do it in the presence of some other people, just in case things get violent. Have a tape recorder going, a video camera, etc. Try to learn as much as you can about it, but never trust it... because if it is something negative like you feel, it is probably going to try to decieve you at some point. See if you can document it and get any physical proof of it's existance to clear everyone's mind here who has doubt.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask them. You will find there are some very knowledgable people here who will try to support you and lend assistance into the problem in the best ways they can.

I would suggest right now is to get to know the being since it appears you are stuck with it anyways. Ask her/it what it's name is and see if you can get a response. You said it seems to like yes/no questions. Try out a couple, like "Are you a deceased person". etc. etc. If you are able to, ask others like "what do you want with me", "how did you end up in hell", etc. I strongly advise AGAINST trying to channel it or allow it to write through you, etc. Especially if it is evil like you say.

Lastly, if you have the ability, can you perhaps try to draw it? Mostly for curiosity sake. I'm not sure how the being would take to that though.

I can imagine it probably doesn't like all this attention it is getting, and that you are looking for information on how to get rid of it. Hmm.




posted on Sep, 13 2005 @ 07:38 PM
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Hi tortured..



Archangel Raphael is a merciful healer, sent by God to comfort the sick and the sorrowing. From the Holy Scripture we know that Archangel Raphael expelled demons from a woman. And how many people there are nowadays who are possessed by demons…. Alas, both they and their relatives often turn for help to sorcerers who nowadays hide behind the pseudo-scientific name of “extrasensorics.” But will sorcerers, these servants of the devil, expel demons? Obviously not. The power to expel demons and heal those who are possessed by them belongs to the holy angels and particularly to Archangel Raphael. Let us ask him to intercede for us before the Lord, Giver of all good things.


www.holy-transfiguration.org...


Read also ..
The Gadarene Demoniac......
here

I have sent you a u2u...
Take care
IX
helen



posted on Sep, 15 2005 @ 07:41 PM
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Tortured,

You have not logged in for a couple of days as I write this, so just in case you are simply reading the responses I wanted to let you know that I too have sent you a U2U.

I have experience in dealing with exactly the sort of problem you are having, successful experiences. It will take some effort on your part but I am confident you can free yourself of this problem. Please log in as soon as you can and respond.

My approach is not religious but it has been proven and has helped more than one person who has suffered as you are now.


A.T
(-)




[edit on 9/15/05 by Alexander Tau]



posted on Sep, 16 2005 @ 08:23 PM
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I have been gone for a couple of days talking to a priest. He blessed me with water from the Jordan river and gave me an easter vigil candle that he brought back from Jerusalem. He also admitted that he has never dealt with anyone who had this serious of a problem and the situation has not subsided. If someone could tell me what a u2u is I would appreciate it because it seems like a way I could contact a few of you to hopefully gain some information and possibly some answers. Thanks to everyone for your concern, it sounds heartfelt and makes me feel better that there are people out there that care.



posted on Sep, 16 2005 @ 08:46 PM
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u2u stands for user to user. You can gain access to the u2u center by clicking on the icon next to the log out icon. (mCENTER). I would have added more things but I don't have much time. Everyone on this thread are giving good advice (excluding fum), take it all into consideration.
I don't know what to say other than good luck. I'll try to send you a u2u too as soon as you figure out how to use it.



posted on Sep, 16 2005 @ 08:57 PM
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To send a u2u, which is just a private message to one person, just click the "send u2u" button below the person's post that you want to send a private message to.

While having no experience with a matter such as this, I do know that entities such as this feed on your fear, and when that factor is removed from the equation, they normally leave for easier pickings. I know it's easier said than done, but if you could muster the courage to show no fear, and let it be known to the entity that your do not fear her/it, then that would be a step in the right direction I would think.

In any case, there seems to be a couple here with experience with this, like Alexander Tau, so click the "send u2u" button under his post so you can exchange email addresses and hopefully start you on the road to recovery.

peace



posted on Sep, 16 2005 @ 11:06 PM
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Maybe I can be of some help. I would gladly take this attractive, 7 foot-tall, testicle-touching woman off your hands for you. Tell her I'm very interested in having a relationship with her and that you don't have the time to dedicate to the type of romance that she truly deserves.

I figure the best part about this woman is that I can cheat on my girlfriend with her and never have to worry about her walking in on us! Not to mention the fact that I can now stop bugging her about having a threesome... I can just have one without her even realizing it!

[edit on 16-9-2005 by Rasputin13]


fum

posted on Sep, 17 2005 @ 03:24 PM
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Rasputin13
Maybe I can be of some help. I would gladly take this attractive, 7 foot-tall, testicle-touching woman off your hands for you. Tell her I'm very interested in having a relationship with her and that you don't have the time to dedicate to the type of romance that she truly deserves.

I figure the best part about this woman is that I can cheat on my girlfriend with her and never have to worry about her walking in on us! Not to mention the fact that I can now stop bugging her about having a threesome... I can just have one without her even realizing it!

[edit on 16-9-2005 by Rasputin13]



umm ok... dude lol
im not a very religous person so all i can do is give you info i kno and links im sry if i didnt help very much

You might go to your local minister/priest and ask if they can recommend prayer warriors for you. Be explicit. Many churches have rituals and ceremonies for dealing with this

Ludovico Sinistrari, a 17th century Franciscan friar, author of 'Demoniality', wrote:

"Incubi do not obey the exorcists, have no dread of exorcisms, show no reverence for holy things, at the approach of which they are not in the least overawed ... Sometimes they even laugh at exorcisms, strike at the exorcists themselves, and rend the sacred vestments."

Nightmares have been shrouded in fear and mystery for centuries. The first English description of a nightmare
appeared in 1763: "The nightmare generally seizes people sleeping on their backs, and often begins with frightful dreams, which are soon succeeded by a difficult respiration, a violent oppression on the breast, and a total privation of voluntary motion. In this agony they sigh, groan, utter indistinct sounds, and remain in the jaws of death, till, by the utmost efforts of this nature, or some external assistance, they escape out of that dreadful torpid state. As soon as they shake off that vast oppression, and are able to move the body, they are affected by strong palpitation, great anxiety, languor, and uneasiness; which symptoms gradually abate, and are succeeded by the pleasing reflection of having escaped such imminent danger."

Historically, nightmares have three characteristics:
1. An indescribable fear
2. A feeling of a heavy weight on the chest
3. A feeling of helplessness

In Bayley's English Dictionary of 1785, incubus was defined as "the nightmare, a disease when a man in his sleep supposes he has a great weight lying upon him; a devil who has carnal knowledge of a woman under the shape of a man."

It was said that with the mare-demon, terror predominated, and with the incubus-demon, the main element was pleasure mingled with dread. These demons descended on a sleeper, paralyzing and suffocating them, and sometimes having sexual relations with them.

The 1999 Webster's Dictionary definition of a nightmare is: "1. a terrifying dream producing feelings of extreme fear and anxiety. 2. a condition, thought, or experience suggestive of a nightmare. 3. (formerly) a monster or evil spirit believed to oppress persons during sleep."

In modern times, people look at nightmares as dreams which display images in a horrific manner. Nightmares are more than this. These images are fears or issues in the dreamer's life that they are having a difficult time dealing with.

Nightmares can be a subconscious reflection of something much bigger, hidden deep within the dreamer's psyche. They can be a manifestation of a mental or physical trauma (e.g. a rape), or a mental or physical condition (e.g. an accident which has caused an injury), deep-rooted psychological confusion toward an issue in the dreamer's life (e.g. the dreamer feels they've done something bad and has kept it a secret).

The easiest remedy for nightmares that you feel are not messages for action from your subconscious, is to put
protective symbols (whatever is meaningful for you) around your sleeping area, and pray before going to bed.




Damnation and desire
The legendary Succubus feeds on men's lust

Do you find yourself constantly aroused? Do you need to make more space in your apartment to accommodate the latest and greatest additions to your ever-growing porn collection? Do you have a masturbation habit that could rival Pee Wee Herman's? Well my friend, while you may think you've just got a case of the average joe's libido, you may actually under the influence of a demon known as the Succubus.

Legends of Succubi vary far and wide. It is said they sprang from their male demon counterpart, Incubus, a fallen angel driven completely by insatiable lust. Once booted from heaven, the Incubus preyed upon women and filled them with intense sexual desire that only he could fulfill through their dreams.

Some lore describes the form of the Succubus as spirits that enter the world through the dream realm. Other myths take this idea further, claiming that the Succubus or Incubus assumes the shape of a familiar or loved one by reanimating a human corpse or creating human flesh, then twisting its shape.

Succubi can appear as any person they choose to, whether it be a lover, a wife, or the hottie on the cover of the latest issue of Juggs. One particular Incubus case dates back to a medieval bishop by the name of Sylvanus, who fought accusations of sexual assault on a nun by claiming an Incubus had assumed his form and did the deed. Sadly, the nuns bought it. But he does get points for originality.

So now you're probably wondering how to tell whether you need an exorcism or just a cold shower. Here's the deal - if you happily accept a Succubus or Incubus into your bed, everyone else in the house falls into a deep sleep, presumably so as not to come to your "rescue." Also, if the lover in your dreams offers up some less than desirable features, such as bestowing painful sex, being freezing cold, made of metal, or potentially even "double-pronged," you may need to call in a priest. Of course, the bad news there is that Incubi and Succubi don't seem to have any fear of exorcism or prayer, and thus, are really hard to get rid of. Funny coincidence, that.

So who wouldn't want their own personal Succubus or Incubus to grace their beds in the wee hours? All in all, hot, no-strings-attached gratification doesn't sound like such a bad deal. But here's the catch: the goal of a Succubus or Incubus is to seduce humans and lead them to eternal damnation. Those plagued by the Succubi don't wake up in the morning to tell the tale.


that sucks i guess you wont want a succubi now do you lmao
@Rasputin13

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[edit on 17-9-2005 by DontTreadOnMe]



posted on Sep, 17 2005 @ 04:43 PM
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Hmmm... I'm still weighing the pro's and con's of hot sex and eternal damnation. Let me get back to you on this one...


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[edit on 17-9-2005 by DontTreadOnMe]



posted on Sep, 17 2005 @ 09:40 PM
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Can we please get back to the topic at hand, and reply to Tortured's initial post.



posted on Sep, 18 2005 @ 12:59 PM
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Tortured, I just wanted to let you know that a lot of cures work a lot better if you actually believe that whatever's happening is helping you. You've gotta help yourself to get any help.



posted on Sep, 19 2005 @ 06:07 AM
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First and foremost, This is a weird place to be. You think youre nuts and you second guess yourself, and you come up with every plausible explanation of reason and sanity. But to no avail, the pieces don't seem to fit. From what I have been told, you aren't supposed to carry on conversations with apparitions, any encounter anyone has ever documented of encountering an Angel, or figure of white light, will not speak, they simply guide and help through gesture and nods, they speak in a tongue that is unable to be understood, and will make no attempt at speech. Dark apparitions, will on the other hand, try to deceive you as much as possible, after all they are the minions of satan and they are carrying out his bidding. You have said she has told you she was a slave of lucifer, If she was a slave of Lucifer, she would not tell you,especially with gestures.She would simple try to convince you she was there to help you, and she'd do a fine job of it as well. Complete with the flowing white clothing, and harps. My opinion, is this is someone who,likes to play jokes, and was just mean in their life.
The portal probably opened when You probably lost something once and when It was returned you asked for the same parlor trick to be performed again, IE You lost your wallet, keys ,etc... and asked that if it could please place it in an area you designated, This was not a spirit that haunted the place originally, this was something that was brought back through, maybe one night you guys were playing with a ouija board? Maybe Light as a feather stiff as a board, or the ever popular seance?By asking the spirit to do you a favor, you are directly granting permission for them to come into our plane. Spirits like this are usually stuck in a state of suspension, and basically like to wait for mischeif.. In any case, do not engage in conversation, sprinkle kosher rock salt at the north end of your room, and tell it it is time to go to the light, it had it's chance to live this life, and now you want yours.Say a prayer, and tell her you really dont want her here anymore, she isnt welcome, you have to be PERSISTANT! It is nice to give her a name, it makes the whole thing a bit more personal and less insulting.Wear silver cross around your neck, you also should have it blessed ASAP. You need holy water, and sprinkle it around your areas at all times,while you say a very strong prayer. I think the exorcism prayer is a bit overkill for this one, this is your run of the mill nasty, complete with whistles and bells.Also burn white blessed candles. Above every door and window sprinkle sage, and hang a cross. I don't think youre crazy,and neither should you. ANDMortons TABLE SALT IS NOT an acceptible substitute!



posted on Sep, 20 2005 @ 02:37 PM
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omg
i would say: try to aks the girl if she wants to leave. or if you dont dare to talk, just write it down on a paper and look to it. if you are afraid to hear her voice: don't listen to me.



posted on Sep, 22 2005 @ 12:07 AM
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To all those on here with some sort of religious beliefs I would like to take apage out of my GreatGrandmothers book and say that I will pray for you tortured and I would like anyone else on here who does do that to do so for him. Mass prayer has had serious reprocussions in the medical field and I believe that regular people asking god to help cleanse him will work. Anyway tortured U2U me name and stuff.



posted on Sep, 22 2005 @ 02:14 AM
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Tortured my advice is simple with a simple cure.

You make mention that your sort of a Christian,there is the main problem!

With what ever belief you have or have left i think it needs renewing.

Forget about demons etc,concentrate on Christ and what He is and has done for you.

After you have done exactly that you will not have a problem because no unclean spirit has authority over Gods own, period.

This should be a wake up call to get back or closer than you have been to Christ.I`d even hazard a guess and say that you have been thinking of doing this maybe subconsciously and is the very reason why you are being attacked Satan can make you his chief study so you dont have a close relationship with Christ.

Why put your faith in other people to help you?

Christ will in a blink of an eye.

I have wittnessed a girl that was let out of a mental institution and she looked as though she belonged there when she walked into Church,after praying to Christ to come into her life ten minutes after she arrived she was nearly unrecognisable as the same girl,she glowed with purity.



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 01:24 AM
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Hey tortured,
Have you tryed talking to her and confronting her ? You should fight if you can. At least thats what I would do. Also, I believe this has been said before.....you should get a full medical check up, including head scan to make sure you do not have a tumor, also...if all medicals check out, I would start documenting this as soon as possible, get a digital camera or video camera and document it. It will help people on the future with this type of problem. Also you should try spending time around more women, mom, sister, girlfriend what ever...you need to be close to them. And stay with them as long as possible. For some reason I feel it will help you.



posted on Sep, 23 2005 @ 11:09 PM
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Come on, give us an update! You've got my attention.



posted on Oct, 1 2005 @ 12:24 AM
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Tortured,

I hope you are still hanging in there. I sense a chaotic rhythm to the vibrations of you mind. You lack control of what is called your by the ancient mystics, the chittam. Before you can exorcise this demon from your life you must control the ripples of your mind; chittam. The details you have given, indicate that you are allowing your mind to reign without Spiritual guidance. This is the demon. You are allowing one thought to play upon another, fearful at each iteration, driven deeper and deeper towards hell with each passing breath. What if she does this? When is she going to leave me alone. She will always follow your fear and control you where you beleive you may be weak. You must break through this. You must find your inmost Self. Know that you are a Divine being. You are at the hand of the Maker. As an instrument in his hand you must banish what you know is holding you back. This is your duty. It does not matter if she has you by the short and curlies. You have purpose, you have a destiny, you have a mission and you know what it is. You must find a mantra to chant to yourself towards that end. That mantra must be something that you do not share with anyone until your issue is resolved. It will be a guide for your action and for the ripples of your mind. When she bothers you most, repeat that mantra. Let her know what it is you are here to do, why she shall not stand in the way of that; your mission is a Holy one. You say you are in Law school. You own your own business. There must be a vision that you are headed towards. A law that you are to see repealed, a product brought to market... whatever the case may be, you have purpose and in the deepest recesses of your heart you know that purpose. She must understand that you Will take care of that business. It doesn't matter what she does to you... how she tortures you... humiliates you... it makes no difference because your mind is set and your Will is strong. You will be tenacious. Keep your mind set like this breath after breath for each waking hour she is with you. Know that you are acting in righteousness and she soon will set you free.

Sri Oracle



posted on Oct, 1 2005 @ 08:19 PM
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Originally posted by fum

Ludovico Sinistrari, a 17th century Franciscan friar, author of 'Demoniality', wrote:

"Incubi do not obey the exorcists, have no dread of exorcisms, show no reverence for holy things, at the approach of which they are not in the least overawed ... Sometimes they even laugh at exorcisms, strike at the exorcists themselves, and rend the sacred vestments."

Nightmares have been shrouded in fear and mystery for centuries. The first English description of a nightmare
appeared in 1763: "The nightmare generally seizes people sleeping on their backs, and often begins with frightful dreams, which are soon succeeded by a difficult respiration, a violent oppression on the breast, and a total privation of voluntary motion. In this agony they sigh, groan, utter indistinct sounds, and remain in the jaws of death, till, by the utmost efforts of this nature, or some external assistance, they escape out of that dreadful torpid state. As soon as they shake off that vast oppression, and are able to move the body, they are affected by strong palpitation, great anxiety, languor, and uneasiness; which symptoms gradually abate, and are succeeded by the pleasing reflection of having escaped such imminent danger."

Historically, nightmares have three characteristics:
1. An indescribable fear
2. A feeling of a heavy weight on the chest
3. A feeling of helplessness


Ive experienced this, it was a very frightening experience, felt like a heavy weight on my chest and i was totally paralized could not move and my heart felt like ice, and also i had the strangest dream that a black cat, well i know cats and this was not a cat but it did look like a cat was on my chest.

ok i dont think this helps this topic, just got a flashback when i reading this.



posted on Oct, 1 2005 @ 08:25 PM
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I've rushed to the end of this post, so forgive me if someone has already said this

You do not, DO NOT, attempt a self exorcism

if you are someone who has a demon, you do not try to lose it by attempting a self exorcism

you need to speak to a Catholic priest, but be choosy who you speak to, an elderly priest is probably best, but tread carefully




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