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In an exclusive interview with ABC News' Charles Gibson, Bush said he believes that both Christians and Muslims worship the same God.
"I think we do. We have different routes of getting to the Almighty," Bush said. "But I want you to understand, I want your listeners to understand, I don't get to get decide who goes to heaven. The Almighty God decides who goes to heaven and I am on my personal walk," he said.
Mat 10:32 "Whoever acknowledges me before men, I will also acknowledge him before my Father in heaven.
Mat 10:33 But whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven.
Originally posted by edsinger
Reason? It would offend Muslims and Jews.
Originally posted by Byrd
few Wiccan chaplains running around as well.
I see no problem in involking a generic blessing.
I think it does no harm to make things more generic for everyone.
Second , I can understand what you are saying but it is not what Christian nor Muslim chaplains are supposed to do. They are denying what they supposedly believe in for the sake of political correctness.
Originally posted by edsinger
So who is their boss? the General or their God?
Originally posted by edsinger
Example : A chaplain can not say by the Grace of our Lord Jesus
Christ to a gathered group. They must tone it down and say God.
.... this was required and this was 15 - years ago.
Originally posted by edsinger
Bush said he believes that both Christians and Muslims worship the same God.
Even Muslims will admit that they can not be the same God for God can not deny himself now can he?
So the brunt of my question is should the military dictate to chaplains how they teach and what they teach?
but to force them to deny the Christ would be just plain wrong.....
Is this a sign of where we are heading?
Is this a sign of where we are heading?
So who is their boss? the General or their God?
flyersfan
At that time you definately COULD say the name of
Jesus Christ - at least in the Army
Second , I can understand what you are saying but it is not what Christian nor Muslim chaplains are supposed to do. They are denying what they supposedly believe in for the sake of political correctness.
Mat 10:32 "Whoever acknowledges me before men, I will also acknowledge him before my Father in heaven.
Mat 10:33 But whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven.
So my point is, the Chaplain or Jew or Mulsim can not share his faith in a offical capacity, so what is the point?
Originally posted by edsinger
I respectfully disagree....when a Christiam ( not one in name only is asked about Jesus and whether He was and IS God, they are not allowed to speak that way in groups for fear of offending someone. So he is told to deny what he believes as truth for this sake?
So my point is, the Chaplain or Jew or Mulsim can not share his faith in a offical capacity, so what is the point?
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Originally posted by marg6043
I spend 22 years as a military wife and I never heard any complains by anybody about their believes been tramped or step over.
Why is such a big deal now and an Issue?
I tell you what because is the "Few" that has to make it an issue.
Originally posted by marg6043
Actually last week we have a few retired chaplins that are preachers now, the next time I talk to one of them I will definitely ask.
I don't see your point here unless you are just making one on your own.
Am I the only one that can see the problem with this?
My Point is that if a chaplain has to preach the government approved religion then whats the point of being a chaplain, be that chaplain a Christian or Muslim or Jew.