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posted on Sep, 6 2005 @ 03:55 AM
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TWO Japanese Air Force F-15 fighter jets collided above the Sea of Japan

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The F 15 where able to land but there is still investigating what did happen

Being fighter planes why would they be so close to each other during this exercise ?




posted on Sep, 6 2005 @ 04:35 AM
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They were probably doing Air Combat manuvering. You gotta get close to each other to perform this. It's simple for one pilot to lose sight of the other plane and an accident to occur. I can't tell if that's what they were doing or not, because I can't get the page to finish loading. But for awhile there were so many accidents doing ACM that the US had very strict rules about exercises. All airplanes involved in ACM had to be of the same type, they weren't allowed to close within about a half mile of each other, and had to stay above a certain altitude.

We had an incident one time when a group of F-16s were coming from Japan, and one of them and one of the KC-135s ended up with a slightly converging course as they were flying in formation. When someone noticed it and called out to warn them, the KC-135 made a turn to adjust, and the wingtip smashed into the belly of the F-16 causing him to crash into the ocean.



posted on Sep, 6 2005 @ 07:53 AM
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Being fighter planes why would they be so close to each other during this exercise ?


What a great question
, why wouldn't they fly close together? Do you know anything about military aricraft, formation flying is don closely, combat manouvering is done in close quarters, if they fought miles apart it would be like shadow boxing compared to real boxing practice, ok but the the closer to a real comabrt situation the better.

Mod Edit: Removed Insult

[edit on 9/6/05 by FredT]



posted on Sep, 6 2005 @ 08:51 AM
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www.ukiahpropbusters.org...

not a flight maneauver but a demonstration maneauver none the less...

BlueAngel



posted on Sep, 6 2005 @ 09:20 AM
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Well I'd love to say "crap pilots, crap planes", although that wouldn't be very right.

As others have said, in combat excersising, fighters get close up and personal, just like in a real battle.

It's just a random, unfortunately thing that these two planes collided. The chances aren't great, but they're there.

And, the skill (or lack thereof) of the fighter plane pilots, and the f-15's....umm well, quality probably contributed to the crash. Not by much though.



posted on Sep, 6 2005 @ 10:41 AM
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Found this whilst browsing another site today.

Couple of F-18's landing after a mid-air, VERY lucky to have made it to the ground at all


forums.frugalsworld.com...



posted on Sep, 6 2005 @ 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by R988



Being fighter planes why would they be so close to each other during this exercise ?


What a stupid question
, why wouldn't they fly close together? Do you know anything about military aricraft, formation flying is don closely, combat manouvering is done in close quarters, if they fought miles apart it would be like shadow boxing compared to real boxing practice, ok but the the closer to a real comabrt situation the better.


pompous..



posted on Sep, 6 2005 @ 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by Manincloak
Well I'd love to say "crap pilots, crap planes", although that wouldn't be very right.

As others have said, in combat excersising, fighters get close up and personal, just like in a real battle.

It's just a random, unfortunately thing that these two planes collided. The chances aren't great, but they're there.

And, the skill (or lack thereof) of the fighter plane pilots, and the f-15's....umm well, quality probably contributed to the crash. Not by much though.


Japanese pilots are very skilled pilots. They get quite a bit of flying time a year. As for the "f-15's.....umm quality" how many other airplanes do you know of that can literally land on one wing after flying several hundred miles?



posted on Sep, 7 2005 @ 01:45 AM
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Originally posted by Zaphod58
Japanese pilots are very skilled pilots. They get quite a bit of flying time a year.


That may very well be true, but you cannot assume that every pilot is as good as the next.


Originally posted by Zaphod58 As for the "f-15's.....umm quality" how many other airplanes do you know of that can literally land on one wing after flying several hundred miles?


As it's never really been tried, that question cannot be answered.



posted on Sep, 7 2005 @ 02:05 AM
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Hasn't been tried? Wrong!

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posted on Sep, 7 2005 @ 02:07 AM
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Dude you beat me to it





Any other questions



posted on Sep, 7 2005 @ 02:53 AM
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That's because you mods are old and slow.


A little background behind these pics. A training flight of F-15s and A-4s were doing ACM when one of the F-15s collided with an A-4. The Skyhawk went down, while the pilot of the Eagle was able to accelerate, and get control of the plane back. By keeping a high rate of speed, lots of rudder and aileron he was able to keep the plane level, and under control. The backseater kept wanting to eject but the pilot had decided he was going to give the plane back to the maintenance guys. When they attempted to land, he slowed down and the plane immediately tipped on its side, so he accelerated again to get it level. He wasn't able to decelerate below about 200 knots or so, and landed at that speed. Upon stopping the plane and egressing, the crew noticed the missing wing. The fuselage of the plane, and what was left of the wingroot acted as lifting surfaces and were able to keep the plane level as long as there was enough air flowing over them. The shape of the fuselage, the big flat bottom, and the slightly rounded top, acted as a giant wing, and a lifting body.



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