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Shots Fired at Protest in Crawford

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posted on Aug, 14 2005 @ 09:36 PM
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Originally posted by C0le

nope sorry he did, they are great exmple of americans excersising the right to free speach, and the right to assemble, good for them i say, the rancher needs to grow up tbh.


The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

which they are doing....

[edit on 14-8-2005 by namehere]




posted on Aug, 14 2005 @ 10:15 PM
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Second Source



A FRUSTRATED local farmer fired shots into the air today near hundreds of protesters who began their second week of demonstrations against the Iraq war outside US President George W Bush's ranch.


Just providing a second source. Looks like it really did happen.

There is no right or wrong here. Ms. Sheehan has a perfect right to protest and Mr. Mattlage has a perfect right to fire shots on his property. Nobody has done anything wrong. There just isn't a right and wrong side here, regardless of how much some of you want to make it! They're both right!



posted on Aug, 14 2005 @ 10:35 PM
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He should keep in mind or be informed that bullets fired into the air come back down at ballistic velocities.

He should fire at the ground or directly away from people.

I don't want to see anyone get killed,
But this war has already killed tens of thousands of Iraqis and Americans,
so i am sure the war supporters have no concern over killing one more person.

The only reason they don't is it would reveal them for the ugly monsters they are right infront of media new crews.

As long as the carnage and dead, dismember and scortched bodies stay in Iraq the complicit media has agreed to hide the true horror that America has caused and is causing to this day in Iraq.

I wish Bush could smell the rotting and putrifying bodies of the dead in Iraq.
I don't know though, maybe he likes that smell?
.



posted on Aug, 14 2005 @ 10:43 PM
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Maybe she ought to move on down the road a piece
That would certainly eliminate the possibility of that Texas cowboy firing another round..



posted on Aug, 14 2005 @ 11:09 PM
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... Maybe Larry should invite some friends and family over, have target practice at beer bottles on his land. He has every right to do that as long as he shoots safely in the right direction.
Nothing can stop him from doing that...


[edit on 15-8-2005 by XPhiles]



posted on Aug, 14 2005 @ 11:47 PM
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Um, if they're not on his land, he has no right to shoot his gun in a threatening manner. It's assault.

-koji K.



posted on Aug, 14 2005 @ 11:49 PM
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Originally posted by koji_K
Um, if they're not on his land, he has no right to shoot his gun in a threatening manner. It's assault.

-koji K.


Oh quit whining.

he has the right to fire his gun ANYTIME and no law was broken, but then again I thought the were going to lock him up under the Patriot Act.


Hell If I was Bush I would invite the man down for a beer!



posted on Aug, 15 2005 @ 12:04 AM
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This guys got every right to be angry and I don't blame him for getting out the shotgun. This Idiotic protest has taken on a life of its own..BH, if this was happening in front of YOUR house, maybe your opinion would change. No, let me rephrase that...if a Pro-Bush Rally was going on for days in front of your place, hell you may end up on your lawn with a Remmington yourself.

Besides, this dead soldiers Mom is a whacko and her antics are shameful. She is doing a dis-service to her dead son by pulling this stunt....I think she is doing it for herself.

Maximu§



posted on Aug, 15 2005 @ 12:09 AM
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Originally posted by edsinger

Originally posted by koji_K
Um, if they're not on his land, he has no right to shoot his gun in a threatening manner. It's assault.

-koji K.


Oh quit whining.

he has the right to fire his gun ANYTIME and no law was broken, but then again I thought the were going to lock him up under the Patriot Act.


Hell If I was Bush I would invite the man down for a beer!


You again!


Sure, he can fire his gun, but if he fires it, purposely, in a way which gives any of the protestors, not on his land, fear of coming under imminent harm, it's assault. You can call it whining, it's also the law.

-koji K.



posted on Aug, 15 2005 @ 01:14 AM
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I thought this was ranch country how could it be in front of his house?
Im sorry but I feel no sympathy for this man despite all the heavy spin some people are throwing up to put this reckless and threatening act in a positive light.



posted on Aug, 15 2005 @ 02:00 AM
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That poor man and the infringement on his private property.


It just goes to show - if this story is true - how unglued people are becoming. The truth hurts. Cindy Sheehan is vinager and salt ground into the wounds of an ignorant minority.

It's time for people to wake up.

The war in Iraq is bull#, everyone knows it, and George W. Bush is a coward for not having the ballz to come out and speak to that lone grieving woman.

I've had all the chest thumping cheesy -a double s machismo from this empty suit puppet I can stand.

He's a complete moral and intellectual zero. Whooped by a little ol woman.

Unbelievable.

If you love anyone, your kid, your brother, your sister, your neighbor it might do you some good to think about how bad you'd feel if you lost them while you slept tonight.. and for a pile of lies, at that.

If you can't think about that seriously, and I mean really, you are an inhuman piece of excrement.



posted on Aug, 15 2005 @ 08:01 AM
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Originally posted by LA_Maximus
BH, if this was happening in front of YOUR house, maybe your opinion would change.


This isn't happening in front of ANYONE'S house! These pictures show that there are no houses around, anywhere! They're out in the middle of nowhere! And no, I wouldn't change my mind. This is America at work and I LOVE that, regardless of which side I'm on.

Ole Larry could sit back in his recliner with The Price is Right on TV and would never know they're out there. This is probably the most excitement in his boring life singe George got appointed President.

Poor old Larry's just bored! Larry on his property (You can see how they're invading his space! He had to DRIVE his pick-up out there!):




During a prayer service, Mattlage came out and fired his hunting shotgun into the air then put up a no parking sign.

(This guy just reeks of class!)



[edit on 15-8-2005 by Benevolent Heretic]



posted on Aug, 15 2005 @ 08:04 AM
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Originally posted by EastCoastKid
That poor man and the infringement on his private property.


I saw an interview with him this morning.

He's getting PAID for news crews to use his land for parking all during Bush's vacation.

Just a bizarre bit of hypocisy to be profiting from a media circus while complaining about it.



posted on Aug, 15 2005 @ 08:04 AM
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Hey ... it's TEXAS! What did ya'll expect? A bunch of
extreme left wing yahoos park their back ends in front of
this fellow's property ... he's giving them a proper welcome,
TEXAS-STYLE.
That's just how they do things in that
part of the country. Radical lefties beware!



posted on Aug, 15 2005 @ 09:47 AM
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The war in Iraq is , everyone knows it, and George W. Bush is a coward for not having the ballz to come out and speak to that lone grieving woman.


Maybe the fact that he has already spoken to her might have something to do with it. Now what kind of example does this set? If you want to talk to the President of the United States all you have to do is park your arse in front of his house and you meet him face to face?
Sorry but that’s not how things are done. If this woman had enough brain to know that she is being used like a pawn she would get up and leave.



posted on Aug, 15 2005 @ 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by WestPoint23
Now what kind of example does this set? If you want to talk to the President of the United States all you have to do is park your arse in front of his house and you meet him face to face?

Oh, but she has tried every other means of getting answers from him and he has ignored her. This is a last resort.



If this woman had enough brain to know that she is being used like a pawn she would get up and leave.


Do you have any indication whatsoever that she is being used? From everything I've read, she made this decision and move entirely on her own and then the media and 'left' organizations came into the picture. I think she's quite sharp taking advantage of the publicity to further her cause.



posted on Aug, 15 2005 @ 06:36 PM
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Oh, but she has tried every other means of getting answers from him and he has ignored her. This is a last resort.


Getting answers from him? WTF! He’s the president not some consultant you can jut call up and ask to do your taxes. He has talked to her before, and now months later she feels like she has the right to demand a meeting with the president?

I don't see where people get this idea that they are entitled to meet the president if they feel like it.



posted on Aug, 15 2005 @ 06:40 PM
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Originally posted by WestPoint23
I don't see where people get this idea that they are entitled to meet the president if they feel like it.


Lest you forget, he works for the people. She is one of his employers. She has every right to demand an answer from him! She may not get it, but she's well within her rights!

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

[edit on 15-8-2005 by Benevolent Heretic]



posted on Aug, 15 2005 @ 07:29 PM
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Well considering the womans husband has filed for divorce it shows she has lost her rocker.....I feel sad for her, but she is too stupid to recognize she is being used.

Bush roadside protester named in California petition filed Friday

AUGUST 15--The next well-wisher approaching Cindy Sheehan at her tent encampment outside President George W. Bush's Texas vacation home may actually be a process server. That's because the California woman's husband--in a curious bit of timing--filed for divorce Friday afternoon (below you'll find a copy of Patrick Sheehan's complaint, lodged August 12 in Solano County District Court). With Sheehan, 48, entering a second week outside Bush's Crawford retreat, her husband's divorce petition cites "irreconcilable differences" for the demise of the couple's 28-year marriage (the Sheehans, the document states, have been separated since June 1). Along with a Vacaville home, Patrick Sheehan listed other "community assets" as "any and all benefits payable as a result of son's death," including a Prudential insurance policy and "benefits from the U.S. Government." From her roadside outpost, Sheehan, whose 24-year-old son Casey, an Army Specialist, was killed last year in Iraq, has become the face of the U.S. antiwar movement, telling reporters that she will not budge until Bush meets with her and explains "why our sons are dead." Noting that Bush has referred to the war as a "noble" pursuit, Sheehan told Reuters, "If it's such a noble cause, why aren't his daughters over there?" Through an aide, Patrick Sheehan's lawyer, Glen DeRonde, declined to comment about the court filing, so it is unclear whether the divorce complaint will be delivered to Cindy Sheehan in Texas or when she returns to her home east of San Francisco. (4 pages)



Sheehan's Husband Seeks Divorce





Originally posted by RANT

Originally posted by EastCoastKid
That poor man and the infringement on his private property.


I saw an interview with him this morning.

He's getting PAID for news crews to use his land for parking all during Bush's vacation.

Just a bizarre bit of hypocisy to be profiting from a media circus while complaining about it.



Ouch guess he loses credibility there for sure...........



posted on Aug, 15 2005 @ 07:42 PM
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Gotta be a Dubya supporter. Only an idiot would fire a gun at reasonable people protesting the war in the best way imaginable.

I know millions of people have organized around the world to protest Israel's War in Iraq, but here we have just a few dozen people and the effect has been better than all the others combined, at least in the American controlled media.

Just goes to show what one person can do. And location, location, location. Who could have thought of a better spot to have a campout/protest? Right next to Dubya's Texas spread. Genius!

I mean Bush vacations something like 5 months a year. And apparently he always goes to Crawford. Must be the exciting night life. Or the cows. They remind him of his supporters I guess.



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