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Albert Pike's predictions of the three world wars

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posted on Jul, 14 2005 @ 06:58 PM
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As do most occultists, Albert Pike had a "spirit guide," who dispensed "Divine Wisdom" and enlightened him regarding how to achieve the New World Order. A spirit guide is a being who meets someone who has given themselves over to the practice of the occult; however, people who are practitioners of the New Age Religion do not view this as a bad thing. In fact, they would strongly argue that they are filled with happiness and joy by interacting with their spirit guides.

One message that Albert Pike received from his spirit guide, and which in reality we know to be a demonic vision, he described in a letter that he wrote to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871. This letter graphically outlined plans for three world wars that were seen as necessary to bring about the One World Order, and we can marvel at how accurately it has predicted events that have already taken place. This is not because the devil has powers of prophecy, but because his agents have undertaken to manipulate political events to closely follow his designs.

"The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the "agentur" (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions."
Students of history will recognize that the political alliances of England on one side and Germany on the other, forged between 1871 and 1898 by Otto von Bismarck, co-conspirator of Albert Pike, were instrumental in bringing about the First World War.

"The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm." 3

After this Second World War, Communism was made strong enough to begin taking over weaker governments. In 1945, at the Potsdam Conference between Truman, Churchill, and Stalin, a large portion of Europe was simply handed over to Russia, and on the other side of the world, the aftermath of the war with Japan helped to sweep the tide of Communism into China.



"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." 4

Since the terrorist attacks of Sept 11, 2001, world events, and in particular in the Middle East, show a growing unrest and instability between Modern Zionism and the Arabic World. This is completely in line with the call for a Third World War to be fought between the two, and their allies on both sides. This Third World War is still to come, and recent events show us that it is not far off.

That will finally bring about the new world order.

taken from threeworldwars.com

[edit on 14-7-2005 by Dmtvisitor]




posted on Jul, 15 2005 @ 10:35 AM
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Dmtvisitor, how do we know that it is a Demon?

Just out of interest, if his Spirit Guide does exist why does it have to be demonic?



posted on Jul, 15 2005 @ 11:00 AM
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Well mostly because it deals with the deaths of millions and the ultimate goal being the destruction and disillusionment of christianity, which is already startint to take hold.



posted on Jul, 15 2005 @ 11:23 AM
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But for it to be Demonic, or to even assume such a thing you have to hold those Religions above his.

None of us, not one - know which Religion is in fact right, for all you know Christianity could be wrong and whatever Pike believed in could be right.

Furthmore, Christianity is responsible for the deaths of millions.



posted on Jul, 15 2005 @ 11:57 AM
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There is practically not a single paragraph of original information in that post, and its lifted from several other boards. THis is not permitted.

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You will not cross-post content from other discussion boards (unless you receive my advance permission).



Just a google on your first section reveals all this. Your post is not just 'from three world wars' etc, its been posted at many other sites. Are you the original poster? If so, why are you reguriposting all over the net? If not, why are you stealing someone else's information? Also, you don't appear to be invovled in the conversation, are you just blankly posting other people's stuff? What is the intention from this? I mean, this is a discussion board, not a personal publishing forum. Whats the point if you

  1. don't provide any orignal information
  2. can't participate in the conversation

??
I mean, you can't tell us anything about the stuff you posted or the rational for it, because you don't know.

If you are just tryiing to make the rest of us aware of something, then provide a short description or selection of the information you are going to link to, and provide your own input.



posted on Jul, 15 2005 @ 12:56 PM
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i had to go back & refresh my memory of Albert Pikes 3WW strategy

looked @: www.cuttingedge.org...
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All that quoted "...stuff... attributed to Pike" in the thread starter is a very liberal version of his stuff...with a lot of additional info added to his words.

it might be interesting to superimpose the two versions and analyse if there is any hidden code contained therein..

perhaps the "Synthsis" that is glaringly absent in the latest version?



posted on Jul, 15 2005 @ 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by Odium
But for it to be Demonic, or to even assume such a thing you have to hold those Religions above his.

None of us, not one - know which Religion is in fact right, for all you know Christianity could be wrong and whatever Pike believed in could be right.

Furthmore, Christianity is responsible for the deaths of millions.



And again many of you people will blame Christianity for the actions of non-Christ like people. Do you blame Christanity for because of what Hitler did?



posted on Jul, 15 2005 @ 02:12 PM
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Originally posted by JerryFletcher
And again many of you people will blame Christianity for the actions of non-Christ like people. Do you blame Christanity for because of what Hitler did?

Well, hitler was a christian. You can't say that because a person did something that you don't like that they're not a christian because of that. Its a cop out. Its like saying that there are no muslim terrorists because islam forbids terrorism, or that because british law prohibits crime, that there are no british criminals, that they 'lost' their citizenship when they commited a crime and aren't covered by the law. There were plenty of people in germany during the war that were perfectly well accpeted as being christians, but they were also participants in genocide. And furthermore, christianity was used to urge them on. Hitler would rail about how God the Creator is who has to be followed, that the jews were evil according to the bible, etc etc. WHen the crusaders invaded the middle east, it was because they were doing it for jesus. That makes them christian, that makes it the actions of christianity.



posted on Jul, 16 2005 @ 12:55 PM
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But for it to be Demonic, or to even assume such a thing you have to hold those Religions above his. None of us, not one - know which Religion is in fact right, for all you know Christianity could be wrong and whatever Pike believed in could be right. Furthmore, Christianity is responsible for the deaths of millions.


Pike was a luciferian. Is it possible his religion could be right, yes it's possible. As for Christianity is responsible for the death's of millions. Christianity is not responsible for the deaths of millions, the leaders who used Christianity as a means to kill were. Cleary you should know that the religion of Christianity never uses murder as a means of for getting your message across, and anyone who assumes that is not following the religion.



posted on Jul, 16 2005 @ 01:03 PM
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Like it or not, they are guilty of it.

I never have seen records of Christians speaking out against the Crusades from their time, etc, etc, although Nygdan has it covered already.

As for the book/letter, we are talking about do we have any proof Pike even wrote it?



posted on Jul, 16 2005 @ 01:42 PM
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I have recently amassed a pretty heavy collection of documentaries and other files that speak about freemasonery and Albert Pike. Here are some parts I pulled from one video entitled "Invisibly Visible" that I will gladly send to whoever wants a copy.

Directly across from the Supreme Court building in Washington D.C. there is a large statue of Albert Pike.

Pike was a Brig. General in the Confederacy during the Civil War which makes him the only Confederate general to have a statue in D.C. But the statue does not honor Pike's military accomplishments. The statue is a monument to his legendary leadership in freemasonery.

Pike held every illustrious title in freemasonery including "Supreme Commander of North America". He was expelled from the army and then paradoned by President Andrew Johnson- a well-documented freemason.

In addition to having dozens of lodges named in his honor, there is strong evidence to suggest that Albert Pike also founded the Ku Klux Klan which coincidentally held its meetings in Masonic temples.

On the Pike statue, there is a symbol of a doubleheaded eagle which is almost an exact mirror image of the U.S. great seal with the numberes 32 and 33 playing dominant roles in the imagery.

In addition to writing almost all the revelant documents for spiritual worship of freemasonery, I will also now transcribe what Pike wrote that is in the video I have

From: Instructions to the 23 Supreme Councils of the World, July 14, 1889.

"That which we must say to a crowd is- We worship a God, but it is the God that one adores without superstition. To you, Sovereign Grand Inspectors General, we say this, that you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st and 30th degrees- The Masonic Religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian Doctrine" -Albert Pike, 33rd degree freemason

Enjoy guys.

[edit on 16-7-2005 by RebelSaint]



posted on Jul, 17 2005 @ 04:46 AM
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Originally posted by RebelSaint
In addition to writing almost all the revelant documents for spiritual worship of freemasonery, I will also now transcribe what Pike wrote that is in the video I have


First, there is NO evidence to even demonstrate Pike's involvement in the KKK. All there is are rumors and heresay from people who try to tear Pike down. The creation and membership of the KKK are all very well-documented and Pike figures NOWHERE in there.

Albert Pike re-wrote masonic rituals, and a study thereof (Morals and Dogma), for the Southern American Jurisdiction of the Scottish Rite branch of Freemasonry. This branch of Freemasonry has less than 100,000 Freemasons. Most Freemasons outside of the southern half of the United States don't even know who Albert Pike IS!

Additionally, he wrote only a few relevant documents about Freemasonry. They were a study of Freemasonry's degrees. There is no such thing as "worship of Freemasonry", because masons only worship their own personal religion and their own personal God. We PRACTICE Freemasonry.

So what you have said above is FALSE.




"That which we must say to a crowd is- We worship a God, but it is the God that one adores without superstition. To you, Sovereign Grand Inspectors General, we say this, that you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st and 30th degrees- The Masonic Religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian Doctrine" -Albert Pike, 33rd degree freemason


OH YOU DID NOT!!!! That quote is absolutely FALSE!!!! It was a hoax perpetrated by a man name Leo Taxil, a pornographer and anti-mason, who later confessed in public that this statement he attributed to Pike was A HOAX!!!!!!!! Here's some info about it:

www.masonicinfo.com...

en.wikipedia.org...

Basically, ALL theories of Pike's and Freemasonry's worship of Lucifer came from this hoax. It's effect is still seen today. I read a quote several posts up where one user claimed Pike was a "luciferian", which is absolutely false.

I can't believe you actually fell for that without actually researching it for yourself!!! Do your own damn research before claiming something is a fact! :bnghd:


[edit on 17-7-2005 by sebatwerk]



posted on Jul, 17 2005 @ 11:26 AM
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good job sebatwerk, i like your style.way to look up the facts,analyize it and to help others to see the truth behind the lies



posted on Jul, 17 2005 @ 12:01 PM
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Something I don't understand...

In the original post about the plan for 3 world wars, it mentioned "Nazism". But it was written in the late 1800's. Was the term actually used then or was it added later? Was Nazism even around at that time?

Additionally, I would like to refute the claim that Christianity is responsible for the murder of millions of people. This is not true. Some have chosen to use their perverted form of Christianity, or their own interpretation of the religion, in order to engage in murder and warfare. Just as radical Muslim fundamentalists use a perverted form of Islam in order to carry out terrorist attacks. We do not say that Islam is responsible for these murders and crimes. It is the individuals who choose to twist the words of the Koran in order to carry out their goals that are to blame for these deaths. We don't blame the gun for killing someone, we blame the person who pulled the trigger.

If we're going to blame Christianity for killing millions, then we must blame Catcher in the Rye for killing John Lennon.



posted on Jul, 17 2005 @ 12:05 PM
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Dmtvisitor,

Organized Freemasonry perfected the big lie technique. They use the term doublespeak to divert and discourse the truth into lies etc. I advise to stay clear of their disinformation agents.

Just by me saying this I will flamed and hounded by ATS freemasons now, like wolves they are.

Here's a good read on Albert Pike and his Freemason KKK role.



A non-mason may provide quote after quote from old masonic or KKK works and Freemasonry will not accept any of them because anyone who would suggest such a thing today (the non-mason) would be doing so with the knowledge that it would be harmful to Freemasonry's public image and standing, and anyone who would do that would obviously have to be an 'anti'. Of course nothing an "Anti" says or writes is acceptable to a Mason. Logicians term this circular reasoning and furthermore classify circular reasoning as a fallacy. A fallacy is equivalent to an mathematical error in logic or rhetoric, and it is disallowed. It is not a legitimate debating method, it is in the same category as ad hominem personal attacks. Unfortunately with the Freemasons power it is very difficult to compete with the deluge of misinformation they spew out repeating these illegitimate debating and reasoning methods. In crude terms organized Freemasonry's most effective tactic is to "baffle them with bee's wax". Mountains of it. If it will take a thousand websites or a hundered thousand usenet posts to bury the 'anti's' point (which they never respond to without employing shabby cut and paste, deletion, or misquoting games) then that is what they will do. Masons term this 'good work'.





posted on Jul, 17 2005 @ 12:54 PM
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Rasputin13, the term Nazism is a modern one however it would have been a replacement name for the National Socialist German Workers Party which was founded in 1918, as the Freier Ausschuss für einen deutschen Arbeiterfrieden (Free Committee for a German Workers' Peace). Which clearly didn't exist when Pike did and is one of the largest problems with the piece of text.

As far as I know the Czech National Socialist Party (founded 1898) is the earlist party to ever use the term National Socialist.



posted on Jul, 17 2005 @ 02:51 PM
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That was one question I had, I read the post as if Albert Pike actually said what you are typing and it seems rather inaccurate. Is there any confirmed documentations, biographies etc that have what he actually, word for word said was going to happen. Does anyone have any links and are this proven to be him.

PS I have goggled, but it all seems to have far to many modern terms in the text to be accurate.

Thanks in Advance



posted on Jul, 17 2005 @ 05:58 PM
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In the original post about the plan for 3 world wars, it mentioned "Nazism". But it was written in the late 1800's. Was the term actually used then or was it added later? Was Nazism even around at that time ?

The letter that was written was discovered in 1949, and the letter is questioned because the word Fascism wasn’t used until 1921, and the Arab Jewish problem wasn’t prevalent until 1917, but if they planned these events then it’s possible that this is authentic. The letter is believed by some to have been on display at the British Museum of London for many years. However questionable the letter is, it is still no doubt astounding considering it was found in the 50’s which especially considering the focus of foreign affairs in the U.S. was anything and everything but the middle east. Nevertheless I feel it is an authentic 1871 letter from Pike to Giuseppe Mazzini.

Mazzinni was a friend of Pike’s. Mazzini who was also a 33rd degree freemason was also involved in the ideas of the NWO. You can find other authentic letters written between the notorious Mazzini and Pike as well as other info here: www.kemet.dsl.pipex.com...

Also Syntaxer thanks for the website, another informative site on Albert Pike. I also appreciate your advice on the big lie technique, and I have found it to be pretty interesting that so many would go out of there way to misinform. Just makes me more interested, and yes I am aware of it. Good advice would be to find hard evidence and stick with it. Also everyone claiming Pike is flawless, give it up already. Why we're on this subject why don't you explain Albert Pike's belief in Lucifer and his brutal savegery as Governor of Indian territory, in which he was jailed for treason. Although he was a 33rd degree freemason, I would rather not talk about the freemason side of Pike, there is enough threads on this site that covers it and it's repetitive.


[edit on 17-7-2005 by Dmtvisitor]



posted on Jul, 17 2005 @ 08:17 PM
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Do not accuse me of stating falsehoods when the entire basis of Freemasonery revolves around deception and secrecy. What I do know is that no good comes from secrecy and last time I checked freemasons are kings of secrecy. I hope you enjoy being a low level lapdog cut out from the loop but given enough false confidence to believe you count or matter in a Luciferian cult. Keep up the deception and as more and more people begin to understand the true nature of secrecy and evil that freemasonry breeds, that entire institution will have more light shed on it than you could ever hope to receive from Lucifer or whatever you call your "personal" god.

"I would never bow down to a pagan habit. worship faggot roman gods named after the planets".



posted on Jul, 17 2005 @ 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by RebelSaint
Do not accuse me of stating falsehoods when the entire basis of Freemasonery revolves around deception and secrecy. What I do know is that no good comes from secrecy and last time I checked freemasons are kings of secrecy.


Awh, are you mad because I completely blew your claim out of the water!?!? Are you mad because I demonstrated that your beliefs about Freemasonry and Albert Pike are based on a HOAX?!?!? Are you mad because I proved that you are a gullible conspiracy "theorist" who believes everything he reads but researches nothing for himself?!?

Kings of secrecy? We keep our modes of recognition, passwords, handshakes and signs, secret. Nothing more. Can you prove otherwise? Please, give me an example of a basis of Freemasonry that revolves around secrecy. Prove to us that Freemasons keep other things secret besides our modes of recognition. Can you?



I hope you enjoy being a low level lapdog cut out from the loop but given enough false confidence to believe you count or matter in a Luciferian cult.


Actually, there is no such thing as high-level or low-level masons, as all masons are equal in the fraternity. The only masons in a position of authority are elected officers, and this is only for one year terms and only while lodge is open. I am a 32nd degree Master of the Royal Secret. If you believe degrees are ranks, do you really think that's a "low-level lapdog"??? Sorry, no prize. Try again.

Besides, is Freemasonry a "luciferian cult"??? Can you actually demonstrate this with something other than a false quote from Pike? Can you prove it with real evidence? Here's 21 reasons why Freemasonry cannot be a cult:

www.masonicinfo.com...

As for being "luciferian", you only think this because of a popular hoax that was perpetrated on Albert Pike. Shows how much research you actually do, and how much you believe what others tell you. You are one gullible dude...



Keep up the deception and as more and more people begin to understand the true nature of secrecy and evil that freemasonry breeds, that entire institution will have more light shed on it than you could ever hope to receive from Lucifer or whatever you call your "personal" god.


What deception? PLEASE SHOW ME WHAT DECEPTION YOU SPEAK OF! Stop flinging accusations and slander like a childish troll. Start being a man and actually back up your words with EVIDENCE. Otherwise, it stands to show that you are nothing but a troll who is trying to anger me.

My personal God is the christian God. For muslim masons, it would be Allah. All depends on who the mason is, but ALL masons have their own personal God which they believe in and worship.



"I would never bow down to a pagan habit. worship faggot roman gods named after the planets".


I hope you get a lovely red tag by your name for that one.


[edit on 17-7-2005 by sebatwerk]





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