Templar banner in 'The Last Supper'

Hmm, double S, perhaps the Gospel of St. Thomas is at least worth reading then. I was cautious for a while, there is, after all, only so much time that a person can devote to some of these things, but perhaps this one would be well worth it.

Originally posted by Nygdan
The Templars were destroyed a long time ago

No, they weren't. Such a powerful organisation couldn't have been brought down so easily.
And the Templars were repressed only in France and a few other countries. But in Poland, there were no actions taken against the Templars and it's not know if any trials of the Templars were held there. After the formal dissolution of the Order, its properties became the properties of the Hospitallers.
In Germany, the Templars protested against false accusations.

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so he changed the religion of Rome from Paganism to Christianity.

No he did not. He incorporated xianity into the state religion ( Sol Invictus)
he was not even "converted" until he lay on his deathbed to weak to resist.

As to his being the or a Pope, No he had grander asperations. He proclaimed himself the true Messiah and the Pope agreed with him.

But the idea that the original jesus movement in israel was a gnostic movement, and that the early christian cult in the east was gnostic, but then it suddenly was 'seized' by non-gnostics, doesn't make sense.

Not seized by but overrun by. There is ample testament to the 2 seperate
churches in the "gospels". The church founded on and by the original heretic
Saul/Paul who is quoted as saying,

Let not the vain speeches of any trouble you who pervert the truth,
that they may draw you aside from the truth that I teach.

And The Church at Jerusalem carried on By James the Brother of Jesus and
possibly The Magdalene.

Pauls followers ultimatly sold out to Rome and became the Universal Church of Rome, or The RCC.

alias101
The Templars were destroyed?

The arrest was an idea from the king Philip IV of France to take the control of the Order and their treasures. That letter was opened at once in October 13th (friday, by the way) of 1307 just in France. Later Philip pressed other kings to do the same thing. Meanwhile, the pope Clement V didn't have the intention to loose his knights. The Chinon parchment is the church pardon to the templars.

Clement wasn’t strong enough to save his knights and then in 1312 De Molay and ohers were killed by the King Philip, not the Church…

Non Nobis


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[edit on 9-7-2005 by Ultradream]

if I remember correctly 1312 was whem clement dissolved the KT. It was
April(?) 1314 that DeMolay and the 2 Preceptors were burned.

Originally posted by stalkingwolf
if I remember correctly 1312 was whem clement dissolved the KT. It was
April(?) 1314 that DeMolay and the 2 Preceptors were burned.

Thanks for the heads up.

You are right, 18 of March 1314 is the exact date and DeMolay had 70 years old

The other two were Geoffrey de Charnay, preceptor of Normandy and Geoffrey de Gonneville preceptor of Poitou

1312 was the date of the Considerantes dudum.

Sorry for the wrong date...

Non Nobis...





[edit on 10-7-2005 by Ultradream]

No problem. sometimes its almost impossible to keep all the dates of events
straight.