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Originally posted by Majestic12
It is not really worth persiting with this concept, Seb. No matter how many times you and any other Masons will try and drive this simple to understand
idea home, Truth will just NOT grasp it.
Originally posted by Truthisoutthere
intrepid
And your narrowed point is ????
Would you like to ask a question ? Did I leave you out ?
I try to respond to all but it seems that this is the only discussion that the Masons want to discuss.
Can't we agree to disagree on this point and move to the next ? That's what I have done ?
Truth
Originally posted by intrepid
Jesus(pun intended), I've had enough of this. Truth, you are coming across as a die hard Christian, no problem there but the thing is that the Masons, from what I've read, are NOT a religion. Not as if anyone that doesn't believe in Christ is trying to infiltrate your faith.
Next, do you not buy products that are produced by members of another religion? Food product come to mind. I'm betting that a lot of the chicken you eat are killed in the Hallal manne(I know)r. Does that mean that your chicken is not worthy of your table?
From what I've read here, religion is not discussed "in Lodge", so what's the problem? The only conection between them is that they believe in SOMETHING greater than themselves.
Is that so hard to grasp?
Originally posted by intrepid
Jesus(pun intended), I've had enough of this. Truth, you are coming across as a die hard Christian, no problem there but the thing is that the Masons, from what I've read, are NOT a religion. Not as if anyone that doesn't believe in Christ is trying to infiltrate your faith.
Next, do you not buy products that are produced by members of another religion? Food product come to mind. I'm betting that a lot of the chicken you eat are killed in the Hallal manne(I know)r. Does that mean that your chicken is not worthy of your table?
From what I've read here, religion is not discussed "in Lodge", so what's the problem? The only conection between them is that they believe in SOMETHING greater than themselves.
Is that so hard to grasp?
Originally posted by Truthisoutthere
Exactly my point !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let me break it down for all of you in the most simplist of terms !
The God of Freemasonry INCOMPESSES ALL GODS. You said it. The Freemasonry Church aknowlegdes this. As a matter of fact ALL members must take the oath unto this god ! So both you and I know it !
Have you read about the other Gods in the bible just like this that God destroyed before ?
This is Blasphemy unto the Christian God-The one and only True God ! You are worshipping an Idol. A pagan god ! A False god ! A made up god ! A god of Unity that comes directly from the occult.- Which if you studied up on your oraganization you would realize this.
You might even understand that Freemasonry is a church and has a faith statement and even a statment about salvation ! But unless you research yourselves and stop listening to the ELDERS you will never know !
So who is the hypocrite NOW ?????? -You scoff, laugh, demean, slander and on and on you go-
But you will NEVER Look into either side in it's entirety whether it be Masonry or Christianity. You have no opinion. You have nothing to add to this discussion unless you have researched either ? And it shows you don't know very much about either ? lol
I would at least have some respect for you, if you had something to say with any relevance. But you don't. It's not your fault. Your just ignorant of the facts.
*snip rant about red Kool-Aid*
Is this too difficult to understand ?
If you are a christian that means that you read the bible therefore you should know this ! It's that simple. It's not complex at all as you are making it. You just want to deflect and believe what YOU want and this is called ignorance.
*snip another rant session*
So what's the point of discussion ?
*snip abunch of garbly-gook and scriptures I have at home*
The TRUTH shall set you free !!
Originally posted by intrepid
Tick, tick, how to respond?
Originally posted by Truthisoutthere
*snip*
As far as your statement belittling my faith in God. I think that it was a little unjust and anti-christian. Please tell me I am wrong. What is wrong with being a Christian ?
Originally posted by Truthisoutthere
Interpid,
C'MON !
Have you looked at this entire discussion as it ran around the Mason Threads ? What I meant by the narrow minded statement was that I don't believe that you have looked into this in it's totality. I believe you may have missed the whole point of discussion.
As far as your statement belittling my faith in God. I think that it was a little unjust and anti-christian. Please tell me I am wrong. What is wrong with being a Christian ?
Was that your demeanor or where you just taking a poke at me because of the narrow minded statment ?
Originally posted by The Axeman
*throws hands up in the air and walks away, muttering to self*
Let's stop the nonsense
Hey folks,
(That means those of us who've been responding) Can you see what's happening here? "truthisoutthere" (and believe me...he's OUT THERE) is completely ignoring the posts that deny that there's a "God of Freemasonry" He insists that Masons worship this (God) and no progress is being made...all the while, he's gathering ATS points.
This is his moment of fame. I for one refuse to give him any more. He won't learn...let him be ignorant. Many people are happier when they're ignorant.
...has all the outer markings of a troll as far as I can see.
Just my two cents. Besides there are plenty of other members here at ATS to waste our time with.