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Originally posted by helen670
www.catholic.com...
Up until 1054 before the Schism....there was no Papacy!
in 1054, the Pope of Rome broke away from the other four Apostolic Patriarchates (which include Constantinople, Alexandria, Antioch and Jerusalem), by tampering with the Original Creed of the Church, and considering himself to be infallible.
Originally posted by dbrandt
I don't believe anyone else can be a co-redeemer. For a person
to be a redeemer they had to meet certain requirements.
Originally posted by dbrandt
That's what the priest said, "If you are protestant you will go to
hell because you are not catholic". So if He's wrong about that
what else could he be wrong about?
if you have to follow sacraments to enter heaven
it's works and not by faith in Christ alone.
Originally posted by jake1997
So then you agree that PJP2 was wrong about saying muslims and jews goto heaven? (curious now)
No one helps Christ with that. Salvation is purely of God.
Originally posted by helen670
Also the day at Pentacost is when the Church began....
So the history of the Christian Church begins,
with the descent of the Holy Spirit on the Apostles
at Jerusalem during the feast of Pentecost,
Originally posted by jake1997
So then you agree that PJP2 was wrong about saying muslims and jews goto heaven? (curious now)
No one helps Christ with that. We are USED by the Holy Spirit.
Salvation is purely of God.
Originally posted by Raphael_UO
If I am understanding the official RCC teachings on this, they teach that any man could go to heaven under certain (extraordinary) circumstances. However, they would not go to heaven as a direct result of the teachings of their religion.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
It says that it is easier to enter heaven because extra
grace comes from the sacraments. We all need grace. Grace comes from
prayer and is sent by God.
King David went to God's annointed to confess his sin of killing a man
to gain that man's wife. He went to God ... but he also went to God's
annointed. He was humble and did this to show God that he was
serious. Was he forgiven without going? Yes. Did he have to go? No.
But he did.
I THINK Baptism may be different. I THINK that the church requires
baptism by water, blood, or desire to enter heaven.
I'll look up Baptism.
quote: No one helps Christ with that. We are USED by the Holy Spirit.
Salvation is purely of God.
One never loses his freedom to choose. Perhaps my disagreement is a matter of definitions of the words used; but, I would say that if one does not freely choose to do a thing, they should question the nature of the spirit which is using them.
Originally posted by dbrandt
unless you throw in purgatory(which I don't believe).
Originally posted by darkelf
I think the others are using co as in partnership less than:
below Christ but still working with Him.
Originally posted by dbrandt
Could you expand on the grace meaning.
Originally posted by dbrandt
What do you mean baptism by blood?