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May 18 - Responses to a detailed survey conducted by a United Nations agency and the Iraqi government indicate that everyday conditions for Iraqis in the aftermath of the 2003 US-led invasion have deteriorated at an alarming rate, with huge numbers of people lacking adequate access to basic services and resources such as clean water, food, health care, electricity, jobs and sanitation.
"This survey shows a rather tragic situation of the quality of life in Iraq," Barham Salih, Iraq's minister of planning, said in statement, adding: "If you compare this to the situation in the 1980s, you will see a major deterioration."
Researchers determined that some 24,000 Iraqis died as a result of the US-led invasion in 2003 and the first year of occupation. Children below the age of 18 comprised 12 percent of those deaths, according to survey data.
The study also indicates that the invasion and its immediate aftermath forced more than 140,000 Iraqis to flee their homes.
List of Main Problems found by UN and Iraqi officials:
- Child Malnutrition Worsens
- Health Care Facilities Dilapidated, Doctors Frustrated
- Iraqis Lack Safe Water, Sewage Treatment, Electricity
- Literacy in Decline
Originally posted by Souljah
Thanks skippytjc!
Here is some points for You:
1. There would be no insurgents, if the US have not invaded Iraq - but lets leave that alone.
2. Its pretty clear that Iraq has gone way out of control, and any hope for a lasting peace is really very small.
3. To start with, this war is based on bunch of Lies - which makes it Illegal.
4. With every day, that this war is going on it is AMERICAN Corporations that make money, not Iraqi people.
5. Imagine how much money goes to Iraq - YOUR money, American taxpayers money not mine - in order to fund the security and arm them.
6. By 2010, war expenses might total $600 billion, according to the Congressional Budget Office - you want your children to pay this billions off?
7. Profit is being made by starting Wars -> Western Corporate Economy rule.
8. The ones who suffer are ofcourse the people in the middle of this - innocent Iraq civilians.
9. There will be resistance, as long as there are US troops in Iraq - which means it wont end, if US troops dont leave this place.
10. With all the billions of USD coming to Iraq, the infrastructure could be rebuilt in NOTIME. So where is all that money going?
11. A typical: "Create Problem - Create Solution - Situation": by creating a constant level of insurgency and instability in Iraq, USArmy has reserved its way in the Middle East for next 10 years at least - well at least until all the natural reserves run out.
12. "If you are not with us, you are with the terrorists!" - people wont forget that statement.
Originally posted by skippytjc
That’s 12 points you just made that totally avoid the fact that its insurgents that kill the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of civilians in Iraq.
Where is point 13 that explains in detail what they kill thier own inocent people?
Thanks again Souljah for shedding light on how the insurgency is keeping the people of Iraq down.
Originally posted by Souljah
Originally posted by skippytjc
That’s 12 points you just made that totally avoid the fact that its insurgents that kill the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of civilians in Iraq.
Where is point 13 that explains in detail what they kill thier own inocent people?
Thanks again Souljah for shedding light on how the insurgency is keeping the people of Iraq down.
Resistance and Insurgency is a Natural Response to an Invasion - an ILLEGAL invasion of Iraq. What did you expect?
You seem not to understand the situation in Iraq - its on a brink of Civil war, in a very revolutionary time, and in this kind of times, people kill each other.
You sound "so concerned" for Iraq people, when infact you support further death and destruction by supporting your current goverment in their foolish foreign policy.
There can not be Peace without Justice.
So, there you have it - Iraq Burning - who will take the Fires out?
US Army?
Current Iraq Goverment?
World Community?
Russia?
China?
Tell me skippytjc, how would You solve the problem of Iraq?
With more Gunz?
[edit on 20/5/05 by Souljah]
Originally posted by deltaboy
are you surprise that its on the brink of civil war? if you look back at history between Kurds and Shiites and Sunnis its not surprise, look at the demography. Kurds live in north, Shiites in south, Sunnis in middle makes you wonder why they live that way. civil war was going to come sooner or later, it was a delay. but since Zarqawi decided to kill a couple of Shiites to incite sectarian war you should thank him for lighting up the fire.
Originally posted by Souljah
1. There would be no insurgents, if the US have not invaded Iraq - but lets leave that alone.
3. To start with, this war is based on bunch of Lies - which makes it Illegal.
Originally posted by Souljah
Originally posted by deltaboy
are you surprise that its on the brink of civil war? if you look back at history between Kurds and Shiites and Sunnis its not surprise, look at the demography. Kurds live in north, Shiites in south, Sunnis in middle makes you wonder why they live that way. civil war was going to come sooner or later, it was a delay. but since Zarqawi decided to kill a couple of Shiites to incite sectarian war you should thank him for lighting up the fire.
Nope - I am not surprised at all, I am just warning you all, that cannot see it!
Actually Civil war is what your goverment is Hoping for - because that means more fighting and more shooting - which means more money.
So, basicly all 3 ethinc/culture groups that are the REAL victims here, can do all the dying, while the Corporations do all the Money Laundry.
Great!
You think Al-Zarkawi MAKES MONEY in war in Iraq?
I don think so....
Originally posted by dbates
Point 1 - If the insurgents are really fighting against the United States forces, then why do they kill many, many more Iraqis than U.S. Soldiers. My guess is that armored soldiers that shoot back are harder to kill. - Lazy Cowards!
You'll see the same scenario played out with Hammas. "Let's bomb a restaurant or a bus of unarmed college students." Funny thing is that Hammas doesn't seem to target their own people. Who would do that? Maybe these insurgents aren't really from Iraq?
Point 3 -
"justice is the interest of the stronger party." (Might is right) - Thrasymachus
I'm sure you've heard that "History is written by the winners". Are you insinuating that there is a Higher Power?
Originally posted by devilwasp
Its easier to scape goat than to adress the issue......
Its also easier to go off topic than stay on topic....
Originally posted by deltaboy
i doubt the government wants the civil war, and Zarqawi is more into an Islamic Empire not money. to him he has money from Osama.
Originally posted by Souljah
Guess who GIVES the money to Osama?
"The Circle is Complete."
Originally posted by skippytjc
Originally posted by Souljah
Guess who GIVES the money to Osama?
"The Circle is Complete."
Various organizations including businesses, Mosques, and some countries like Iran and Syria.
Originally posted by Souljah
Originally posted by skippytjc
Originally posted by Souljah
Guess who GIVES the money to Osama?
"The Circle is Complete."
Various organizations including businesses, Mosques, and some countries like Iran and Syria.
...dont forget dear old SAUDI ARABIA - and ofcourse the United States, that gave so much money to Osama, sp that he can "keep up the fight" for years...
Endless War - Empire's Wet Dream!
[edit on 20/5/05 by Souljah]
Originally posted by skippytjc
That’s 12 points you just made that totally avoid the fact that its insurgents that kill the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of civilians in Iraq.
Originally posted by koji_K
Are they? How many do they kill? The confirmed number of civilian deaths in Iraq to date as a direct result of US or allied action is from 21,705 - 24,628 people. (Considerably more than were killed in 9/11.)
[edit on 20-5-2005 by koji_K]
Originally posted by skippytjc
Originally posted by koji_K
Are they? How many do they kill? The confirmed number of civilian deaths in Iraq to date as a direct result of US or allied action is from 21,705 - 24,628 people. (Considerably more than were killed in 9/11.)
[edit on 20-5-2005 by koji_K]
Thats a joke right? Satire? It MUST be a joke. You cannot be serious. How many dozens of Iraqi's die each day by Isurgent and terrorist bombings? Every single day?
Koji, come back to reality.