Originally posted by sebatwerk
Originally posted by akilles
G is the 7th letter of the alphabet. So thats the mystical number. You are effectively paying tribute to 7 as much as you are to the letter G...
It takes some TWISTED logic to think that paying tribute to a letter means paying tribute to the number position it occupies in the alphabet. That's
ridiculous!!! It makes absolutely no sense at all, and shows how warped your sense of reason is.
[edit on 16-5-2005 by sebatwerk]
Heh. Tell that to a qabbalist, or someone who actually studies the jewish language, and they will laugh in your face. However twisted this may seem
to you, letters used to also represent numbers. Of course, then again, these people are taught to see things that you and I can't. Just one more
thing about ancient language that few people know. Pike knew. I know you're probably tired of hearing from this fossil, but he was an expert in
"SEVEN was the particularly sacred number. There were seven planets and spheres presided over by seven archangels. There were seven colors in the
rainbow; and the Phoenecian Diety the Hepkatis or God of seven rays; seven days of the week..." (albert pike M&D, pgs 58-60, 1923 ed.)
It goes on and on for two pages about the significance of the number seven. Two gets about a paragraph, and so does three, four and five. All have
sacred meanings to ancient religions. Stating firmly that masonry is heavily influenced by the ancient religions, I cannot see seb, how you can say
that. To the qabalist, seeing numbers amongst words is something of great significance. Therefore, what if, you are paying homage to the number
seven, and you just cannot see it?
I know Pike was not your favorite mason, and isn't really popular amongst masons, but I also know that Pike knew more about ancient culture and
language than you and I combined. Pike was a talented linguist, and he posessed great knowledge about language, and therefore the anicent texts,
including the more mystical ones. And that he chose to write for two pages about the significance of the number seven. And he chose to elaborate even
further on the previous pages about the significance of other numbers to the ancient cultures. Please try to tell me that Pike was wasting his time,
because I guarantee he considered his time more valuable than that.
Obviously numbers and words are connected, and the numbers are also considered sacred, by ancient cultures. Much knowledge is hidden in time, but
when taught to see this, you begin to see numbers in everything around you. Almost like another way to communicate, or a sacred language. Geometry.
So what does that G mean, and why is it significant? I remember reading something from you seb, that said it stands for "Geometry," which is what,
"earth measurement." Numbers are just a little bit important to that subject. Three, the least amount of sides to a cohesive shape, forms a
triangle, any sacred symbols with a triangle in your lodge? The number four is representative of nature, the four quarters of the globe, the ability
to measure/study the earth in order to seek God. Five, represented by the blazing star, it is the duad (2) added to the triad (3), pythagoras'
mysterious Pentalpha, It is connected directly to the number seven. Six, represented by the "star of david" shape, represents the union of heaven
and earth, two trangles laid over one another in opposing fashion. Eight is the cube of two, and Nine is the square of three, represented by the
Most importanly Pike writes:
"TEN includes all the other numbers. It is especially seven and three; and is called the number of perfection. Pythagoras represented it by the
Tetractys, which had many mystic meanings. This symbol is sometimes composed of dots or points, sometimes of commas or yods, and in tha Kabalah, of
the letters of the name of Diety"
it is thus arranged one dot, with two under it, and three under the next two dots, followed by four dots under that. Draw it out, it should look
like an equilateral triangle composed with ten dots, similar to a rack of bowling pins.
Interesting shape, an equilateral triangle.
Look at this shape, see anything. No? In the next row, there would be five dots, forming seven triangles if you connect the dots in the bottom row.
Also within theshape above there is one large triangle, nine small triangles (square root=3) and one hexagon (duad times triad) all connected to the
number three. The hexagon leaves three dots outside of tah shape and one trapped within, Four dots not involved in the hexagon. Interesting. Six,
represented by the six pointed star, representing heavens and earth. Four dots left over to represent the sacred nature, the true text of god. The
hexagon contains seven dots, but only has six sides, due to one point being in the middle. Leaving the sacred number three (representing the union of
male female, and offspring) separate from the fourth point at the middle of the hexagon, the symbology of one needs no explanation. It means diety.
And the fact that it is in the middle of the six pointed star is significant, because the masonic compass and square are symbolic of the union of the
heavens and earth (compass=heaven, square=earth) So basically the six pointed star and the compass and square symbolize the same thing. And at the
middle of bothe in this case, is the symbol of diety. So what were you saying about seven? It has NO significance, to masons, well maybe not
directly, but there is a connection.
That was a mouthful.
Numbers are sacred, and they do have meaning, especially to a trained eye, of which some masons are trained.
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