Originally posted by Killuminati
Regarding this conspiracy All I have to say is 3 words

9/11 COMMISSION

The US government couldn't of had a better day to kill Saddams Sons

Right at the time of the release of the 9/11 report

A time where the media was starting to finnally criticize the president

Coming from an administration that has a chronic lying disease.....this looks suspicous

VERY SUSPICOUS!

I don't disagree, Bush was facing a back lash from the media by the dems. Then we all of a sudden "killed" a ruthless a merciless advarsary's offspring.

WOW, way to make the critics hush for a while and Popularity ratings go high(for bush)

Originally posted by ADVISOR
Cold War washover! Ever last ounce of it, and every pint of blood will be on the hands of people who knew this was all lies! I have never trusted the current and recent past government, and firmly believe that the USA federal agencies along with political factions have been corrupt since before the Kennedy Administration.

I grow sicker and sicker with each passing day that I see or hear about the wasted lives of my fellow brothers who die in vain on some foreign wasteland, over oil and some egotistical meglomaniac with a hardon for global unrest!

I along with thousands of others around this great country wish to see the true paower restored to those who were the rightful possesors.

The people, "WE THE PEOPLE", of the United States of America.

A Revelution is inorder and I will stand alone, or infront of those who have simular beliefs as me, but I refuse to stand by and see our Forefathers great dreams flushed down the toilet. For those of you who destroy and support those who waste the lives of other for your personal exspence...watch yourselves...I am comeing for you

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I am with you Advisor it is time to Revolt. Finally a moderator I can talk politics to , praise the Lord.
Only thing id I disagree with one or two of your points. When Eisenhowere left office he proclaimed "beware of the military industrial complex" I don't think anyone listened then.
Then along come Kennedy, he had the idea to remove our 17,000 troop advisors from Vietnam cause he figured that swamp was not worth loosing American Military boys to. Then he was executed and Johnson took over and committed 160,000 troops to Vietnam then it was"1'2'3'4' what are we fight'in for, well I don't give a danm next stop is Vietnam and it's 5,6,7,8 open them Pearly Gates and there ain't no time to wonder why whoopie we're all gonna die" [Country Joe and The Fish] and the same folks that brought you that one live on TV are bringing you this one. Johnson did not want to be executed like his friend JFK who was a war hero and that didn't matter to these 'mothers' this is why he played up his Great Society, he was filled with fear and guilt.
Now the only question is how do we stop it from happening again. I had a thought on the matter but your Brothers the Powers that be censored it and threw it in the garbage and told me I couldn't think that way around here and that my thoughts and ideas were against the law and ATS would not support such ideas.
However, now my Revolutionary Brother you and I are in the same Goat Stink'in Boat now!!
What do you have to say about that. I hope you are as tuff as your Avatar
Don't get mad get even
Patience and persistence shall prevail

TUT

Yeah Dragonrider, Gryffen is also a part of the "Brittish Military"...which makes it quite possible she's still in Scotland

As for our soldiers in Iraq, no chance in hell anyone of them could get through a "That's a fake" message.

Especially if they were really apart of the team that got them.

Which I doubt because of 17,000 men in the 101st, only 200 surrounded the place, and then mainly delta force and rangers stormed the house.

After 12 hours of confirming they were in there....

So there's a larger chance that someone is pulling someone's string...than anything else.

Therefore, even if we killed the bad guys, we have to make them disappear, so we can pop them up at the appropriate time. Considering that elections are getting close, morale is extremely low, no WMDs have been found, and the rest of the world is looking at Bush as a conqueror rather than a president, THIS might be an opportune time for Saddam and his WMD to make an appearance.

I agree. Reality is not exactly what is presented in the media. Don't forget that the US military used friggin EMBEDDED JOURNALISTS throughout the war. They are using the media (and other mechanisms) to condition us.

When the massive 9/11 type attack occurs, it will pretty much ensure that Bush will be re-elected. Are any of the other candidates "battle proven"? It is a forced choice. Even if John Kerry gets elected, he is still a member of Skull & Bones. 4 more years of Bush means more war, more death (at home and abroad), and more lies.

In terms of the posted pictures of the bodies... they don't seem to care that children will be viewing them. Why, on a popular news website there was a link, "View the bodies". This "retraumatizing" aspect of the media is in full swing again.

Incidentally to alot of people who live in the US, arabs with beards all look the same. If NASA can edit SOHO pictures to erase a comet, I have no doubt the kinds of things the US military can do with photos of terrestrial matter.


[Edited on 26-7-2003 by MKULTRA]

Originally posted by tututkamen
I am with you Advisor it is time to Revolt. I hope you are as tuff as your Avatar...

Tut, I am tougher than my avatar, it is only an image. I'm the real thing.

Anybody seen Saddam anywhere around? Wheres Bin Laden?

Why did the U.S. send troops and or ships over there a year in advance?
I have a family member that was over in Iraq and said, We were bombing before that March deadline was given.

Iraq was invaded by the military. The U.S. military intelligence would have secured Saddam and his Sons long before a full invasion was carried out.

I can't believe our military from WW11 would have been more advanced then they are now.

RUMORS... say Saddam and his Sons are being held prisoner and have been since the beginning. This would be the U.S. military of today.

Did they find the WMD?

Katie! I'm glad you are back here. A few days ago I realized that the Nazi war criminals hunt took many decades. Some are still at large. We cannot expect immediate results.

Originally posted by ADVISOR

Originally posted by tututkamen
I am with you Advisor it is time to Revolt. I hope you are as tuff as your Avatar...

Tut, I am tougher than my avatar, it is only an image. I'm the real thing.

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Fantastic that makes me feel even better.
Now do you you have any idea's on what type of action we could engage in other than typing about action. Civil Disobedience of course.
I'll bet you have all types of suggestions for me to follow

I can guarantee the authenticity of the email I recieved and give you the full name of the soldier who I'm talking to.

I can also show you the IP from my email, which originated in Iraq.

The thing that made me question the deaths was the timing...

Guys those two are as dead as a doornail, dental records do not lie and neither do x-rays. Anyone who has been within 10ft of these two losers has stated that beyond any shadow of doubt. Saddam sons are either with there after life virgins, or learning why Satan's battle with God was such a mistake.

Either way they are incidents which already happened.

My impression is with respect to the last paragraph is they fall under the auspices of the later as far as why, I hope that would seem obvious.

Originally posted by Toltec
Guys those two are as dead as a doornail, dental records do not lie and neither do x-rays. Anyone who has been within 10ft of these two losers has stated that beyond any shadow of doubt. Saddam sons are either with there after life virgins, or learning why Satan's battle with God was such a mistake.

Either way they are incidents which already happened.

My impression is with respect to the last paragraph is they fall under the auspices of the later as far as why, I hope that would seem obvious.

At least someone is sane here. Good riddance to bad trash.

Can be faked. Those are the first things changed when people go into deep hiding. I would'nt be surprised if saddamand his sons both had cosmetic surgery after desert shield, and our government kept the look alike theory alive just to maintain appearences like Dragon said.

Tut, about takeing action, I am rallying as many people as possible to peacefully assemble in DC outside of the Whitehouse and Congress. Prefurably this can be arrainged before and during the elections, that way as many people as possible will notice, and hopefully join inthis most noble cause.

Originally posted by TheGoldenSun
What he heard is that the people who were being shot at had 2 guns between them and not much ammo. We could have easily taken them out with tear gas or whatever. Instead we launched rocketfire and mortar into that little area. Knowing full well it would maim anyone that was in there. Then they had professional facial reconstructers manipulate the faces to old pictures of the sons.

To tell you the truth, this does not surprise me one bit.

Skeptic here.

This fella Chad must really be in the loop of this grand conspiracy to have first hand knowledge of the activities thereof. I would think, if I were DOD, and I was a member, he would not have a clue due to the nature of this mess. I wouldn't think anyone but field grade officers would know this crap.......cheap vodka.

Originally posted by ADVISOR

Tut, about takeing action, I am rallying as many people as possible to peacefully assemble in DC outside of the Whitehouse and Congress. Prefurably this can be arrainged before and during the elections, that way as many people as possible will notice, and hopefully join inthis most noble cause.

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Most excellent and what will be your platform, demands, ralling cry, etc...
And what organizations will you seek for support of your position. Inquiring minds want to know. Perhaps I may be capable of assistance in some fashion. I am experienced, have you ever been experienced, well I have. OOps a nother day another age, let me pull myself up.
There I am serious once again.

Thank you, thank you very much

Saddam and his sons are still alive they left Iraq b4 the war.

"I can guarantee the authenticity of the email I recieved and give you the full name of the soldier who I'm talking to.I can also show you the IP from my email, which originated in Iraq."

Hi!, another sketpic here.

I'm pretty damn sure the DOD screens every email coming out of iraq (they even did it with phone calls for a while), and for one of its own soldiers to send letters home talking of a conspiracy...COME ON.

You know, it is possible for things to be as simple as they seem.

I find it hard that they could filter all emails because I think it is just an access thing. He sent the email through his old yahoo account. There would have to be someone looking over his shoulder to prevent something like that.

I have not ever tried to do such a thing before. I have seen rallies and witnessed them, but have not been apart of.

The cause is; to make the voice of the people understood. The government is corrupt, they know it. And they will use every resource and tact to make sure they remain in power. The true power of the USA is the people, and "We the People" must let it be known that those of us makeing this stand, are makeing it for the better of our future generations. Our forefathers had a plan and intended purpose for this country, those plans are now at risk of being extinct, as they are already endangered. I will not tolerate this kind of abuse from those who were put in power through lies and subterfuge, and those are the ones we need to take our beloved country back from.

The people that I know I have behind me are all around, they will awnser the call when they see it. As has happened before, and as will happen again.

Thoses photo releases look pretty shuddy to me. I have never seen such bad makeovers in my life. They should fire the guys that did the shuddy face rebuilds But of course you know they would not look so bad if they where the real sons of Saddam. It's all a big ploy to make it look like they actually accomplished something. You know I think, Saddam and his family are setting back in a nice cusey recliners in their underground base, have a laugh at the shuddy work done, to show that they are died. But in time, when the time is right, they could for some unknown reason appear there in Iran, and than Bush would make reason to invade Iran.