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something i found regarding Bob Lazar


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reply posted on 22-4-2005 @ 12:29 AM by Eternal


Robert aye?
Maybe a disyant relative?



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reply posted on 22-4-2005 @ 07:16 AM by Gazrok



Robert aye?



Long version of "Bob"....Robert = Bob



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reply posted on 23-4-2005 @ 12:37 AM by Eternal


Originally posted by Gazrok

Robert aye?



Long version of "Bob"....Robert = Bob


K thanks for the correction



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reply posted on 25-4-2005 @ 03:13 PM by Gazrok


From the other, closed thread...


1. False company name. There is no DNI (officially), Dept. Naval Intelligence. The official name is ONI (Office of Naval Intelligence). Now of course, the name could just be a front, who knows, but still a sticky point.

Are you familiar with the "black ops" world? I didn't think so. There are lots of (Unofficial) departments which use (Unofficial) names.


Actually, I am a little familiar with it. And yes, there are lots of front departments with similar names. As you can see, I stated that it's possible it's a front. (though using EG&G would have been the logical choice for keeping a secret).


2. If contracted, most likely his form would be from EG&G, not the military or any agency thereof.

Not if what they hired him for was above top secret. Things in the "black ops" world are done to conceal which means shifting departments/agencies. If he got his contract through EG&G, that doesn't mean they couldn't have easily erased all his records.


What would that have to do with his school records? Also, he was either hastily given SCI Top Secret Clearance, or he already had it. Chances are, if at Los Alamos as he claimed (and as supported by the phone directory), then he would have had such clearance already. I'll agree that SOMEONE obviously tried to erase some things, and that's why I just can't dismiss the guy, but still a lot of iffy stuff.... I just find it hard to believe that all records of such clearance and employment with it were eradicated, though I suppose anything is possible.


3. If an independent contractor, he'd have an I-99, not a W-2 for such work.

Not true for "black ops"


You're right there. He likely wouldn't have had taxes, he would have been paid cash or wire transfer and not reported to Uncle Sam or oversight committees. Employed by a bogus company would have been another route, but with a MAJ coding? Who knows, maybe they're fans of inside jokes....


4. For his W-2 to come from this company/agency, he'd have had to have been a legitimate employee (i.e. not contractor).

Not true for "black ops"


See above.

As I've said though, I haven't completely dismissed him. I think there is SOMETHING to his claims, it's just very difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff with this man...and there's a lot of chaff....

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reply posted on 25-4-2005 @ 04:15 PM by meshuggah1324


1. False company name. There is no DNI (officially), Dept. Naval Intelligence. The official name is ONI (Office of Naval Intelligence). Now of course, the name could just be a front, who knows, but still a sticky point.

That was already checked out by investigator Bob Oechsler...
Gene: We thought possibly the Department of Naval Intelligence may have been a front company or just another name to divert funds. Bob had always been under the suspicion that the funds for this program were being skimmed off the "SDI" budget, and so we knew that before he released the W2 to the public. Also another thing is people checked the zip-code on the W2, and said "Oh well that's a holding pattern zip-code for a place in Washington, DC." which was true and John Andrews of the Testor(sp?) Corporation did some research and the fact is with that zip-code you simply write "NIC-01" for "Naval Intelligence Command" on the envelope and it is forwarded from that zip-code to Naval Intelligence Command somewhere in Maryland. So there were a lot of things... Also the personal verification on that W2 was that after Bob received it. I think... I don't even think his wife at that time Tracy knew how much his check was for. He showed me the amount the check was for when he received it, and when he received the W2, you know, months later it had the same amount on it. Now of course if I was trying to falsify it, it wouldn't be worth a nickel, but the fact is if that W2 was falsified for dis-information or whatever or even if it's true. Whoever did make that W2 did know how much Bob Lazar had made during the year 1988.

2. If contracted, most likely his form would be from EG&G, not the military or any agency thereof.

NO, it is a black project.

3. If an independent contractor, he'd have an I-99, not a W-2 for such work.

No, again, he was hired at EG&G to work for the Navy,
same as Dan.

4. For his W-2 to come from this company/agency, he'd have had to have been a legitimate employee (i.e. not contractor).

For all we know, he could have worked for MONTHS or YEARS for them in the previous years. IF he was say, fired in January.... Just because this is A W-2, doesn't mean it is ALL of them... I'd have to refresh my info of his case to see the period he claims to have worked there....



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reply posted on 13-7-2009 @ 06:06 PM by YourForever


This DNI thing bothers me. I do not see why ONI would use a defunct name, unless to weaken the credibility of top secret whistle blowers. DNI is stamped on the alien interview tape also...



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