Ron Desantis wants Military Action at the Border and possibly more

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has declared that he’s prepared to authorize drone strikes against drug cartels in Mexico. Bedecked in military-looking garb at the border, he recently vowed to blockade Mexican ports. DeSantis is not alone: Many MAGA-fied Republicans are demanding stepped-up military action against the flow of fentanyl — including inside Mexico, without that country’s assent.

I think the war on Fentanyl shouldn’t be fought in Mexico, but right here at home. What about the war on obesity. Should we fight China for processing junk food for us too?
Sometimes you have to look within, and it appears a lot of Americans just don’t want to believe WE are the problem. We love our drugs, We love our junk food, We love our Pharmaceuticals…..

FCD made a post a bit ago about Fentanyl and how it’s a drug that takes out the trash itself. It kills people quick. Maybe that’s the issue. They want people on drugs, they just don’t want them to die quickly on them. Part of me also wonders if Big Pharma and illicit drugs are running the show. Maybe there is a war between the two. Who knows.

Back to Desantis. He wants more action at the border, sending troops, and possibly even causing conflict with Mexico….very interesting.

a reply to: JAGStorm

With all of the issues certain mayors have been complaining about lately, it's hard to figure why this isn't a bipartisan problem that needs addressed.

Their solution unfortunately, is for the "dreamers" to stay in Texas so the Texans can deal with the fallout.🤷

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: JAGStorm

With all of the issues certain mayors have been complaining about lately, it's hard to figure why this isn't a bipartisan problem that needs addressed.

Their solution unfortunately, is for the "dreamers" to stay in Texas so the Texans can deal with the fallout.🤷

I feel for Texas, they have been dealing with this for too long. Some places like New York got a taste of it and didn’t like it at all.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Just like most issues, it's not a problem until it's your problem.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: JAGStorm

Just like most issues, it's not a problem until it's your problem.

And that is part of the issue, we have become so divided. Divided by political ideology, by state lines and so much more. We don’t see the problem as “our” problem anymore… until it is like you said.

It will definitely be OUR problem if a conflict is started with Mexico!

Agreed the majority of the problem is here, however I think:

Step 1 would be stopping the cartel at the boarder with military force.
Step 2 would be fixing the problem here.

Lets stop the flow first and then focus on the cleanup.

a reply to: JAGStorm

The human trafficking coming across the southern border alone his more than enough reason to deploy the military to the border.

The hundreds of terrorists that have been encountered at the border in the last 2 years is another good reason.

Stopping or at least disrupting the fentanyl would just be a bonus.


The illegals coming across the border are given $2,200 per month while seniors collecting social security get around $1,400.


Securing the border is the most basic function the federal government should be performing.

We could take all the troops from Europe and put them on the border and the problem would be solved within 30 days.

a reply to: some_stupid_name

The best fix is to stop the Mexican people from wanting to come to the US.
Yeah, sounds easy.

We need to invest in Mexico to make people want to stay there.. can't be any more expensive than the current system...lol

Need to end the cartels though

You don't carry out drone strikes until you can identify the biggest cartel leaders and you tell Americans to come home from the country before the strikes are launched.

The majority of fentanyl comes across at legal border crossings and is smuggled in by US citizens.

U.S. Citizens Were 89% of Convicted Fentanyl Traffickers in 2022

a reply to: Threadbare

The majority of fentanyl comes across at legal border crossings and is smuggled in by US citizens.

Winner winner chicken dinner! That's is exactly it.

Our voracious appetite for drugs, and the poor migrants/illegals/aliens/ whatever you want to call them are in a large part being scapegoated for our own internal issues.

Same with the whole jobs thing. They are taking our jobs!

a reply to: Bluntone22

I think the United States should just buy all of central America. Maybe start them off as territories and go from there.

a reply to: some_stupid_name

I don't think buying everything would be the best action.

We rebuilt Japan after WW2 and South Korea after that and those places are pretty nice today. A similar investment in our NAFTA neighbor might be a better long term solution.

Basically we keep throwing money at the symptoms instead of fixing the problem.

a reply to: Bluntone22

They're nice places because they strictly secure their borders and enforce sane immigration policies.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: JAGStorm

With all of the issues certain mayors have been complaining about lately, it's hard to figure why this isn't a bipartisan problem that needs addressed.

Their solution unfortunately, is for the "dreamers" to stay in Texas so the Texans can deal with the fallout.🤷

It won’t be a bipartisan issue because democrats want anything that wrecks America, to continue and grow.
Drug epidemic that kills millions ? Yay !
International terrorism through the border, and local terrorism (antifa, BLM, Soros DAs) ? Yay !
Calamities like Maui, chemical spills, Ca wildfires, industrial explosions and fires ? Yay !
These things are the planning and successes of the people who own Biden, who have been dreaming of the destruction of America for 100 years.

originally posted by: Threadbare
The majority of fentanyl comes across at legal border crossings and is smuggled in by US citizens.

U.S. Citizens Were 89% of Convicted Fentanyl Traffickers in 2022

Note that since trafficking involves movement from Mexico to the United States, it is unclear how to measure the likelihood of conviction for “noncitizens without U.S. lawful immigration status” since the denominator would include most Mexicans in Mexico as well as anyone who crosses through Mexico. Regardless, the reality is that people with U.S. citizenship or residence traffic the vast majority of fentanyl, not illegal border crossers specifically or illegal immigrants generally.

Seems that fact didn't stop them from making the headline

originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: Bluntone22

They're nice places because they strictly secure their borders and enforce sane immigration policies.

I agree with that but in 1960 South Korea was a dump.
After they rebuilt they protected themselves with strong immigration policies.

a reply to: JinMI

Regardless, the reality is that people with U.S. citizenship or residence traffic the vast majority of fentanyl, not illegal border crossers specifically or illegal immigrants generally.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
Here

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has declared that he’s prepared to authorize drone strikes against drug cartels in Mexico. Bedecked in military-looking garb at the border, he recently vowed to blockade Mexican ports. DeSantis is not alone: Many MAGA-fied Republicans are demanding stepped-up military action against the flow of fentanyl — including inside Mexico, without that country’s assent.

I think the war on Fentanyl shouldn’t be fought in Mexico, but right here at home. What about the war on obesity. Should we fight China for processing junk food for us too?
Sometimes you have to look within, and it appears a lot of Americans just don’t want to believe WE are the problem. We love our drugs, We love our junk food, We love our Pharmaceuticals…..

FCD made a post a bit ago about Fentanyl and how it’s a drug that takes out the trash itself. It kills people quick. Maybe that’s the issue. They want people on drugs, they just don’t want them to die quickly on them. Part of me also wonders if Big Pharma and illicit drugs are running the show. Maybe there is a war between the two. Who knows.

Back to Desantis. He wants more action at the border, sending troops, and possibly even causing conflict with Mexico….very interesting.

Terrific, you’re so worried about harming or scaring somebody in Mexico, that it’s “all our fault” that Mexico is coordinating the invasion of America by illegals from 3 continents, the cartels, MS13, human and child trafficking, and fentanyl.
This is what’s known as several acts of war.
What a pitiful way to view it, through the weepy bleeding heart lens.

originally posted by: Threadbare
a reply to: JinMI

Regardless, the reality is that people with U.S. citizenship or residence traffic the vast majority of fentanyl, not illegal border crossers specifically or illegal immigrants generally.

So, an opinion.

Based off of an admitted incomplete dataset.

Could be true sure, but isn't it disingenuous to draw a fact based conclusion off of incomplete facts?