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reply posted on 3-4-2006 @ 07:22 AM by aelphaeis_mangarae
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2: It is not based in America, it does not stem from capitalism, and it’s not a Jewish conspiracy for rule.
WRONG, the people at the bottom of the pyramid are Jewish, thats it.
3: They are not interested in perpetuating an Orwellian totalitarian state.
Wrong again, many other NWO researchers will agree with me.
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reply posted on 3-4-2006 @ 07:58 AM by nukunuku
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You have voted captainhemmingway for the Way Above Top Secret award.
nuff said  
i am hoping to read more from you though...
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reply posted on 3-4-2006 @ 08:07 AM by yanchek
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Bravo captainhemmingway!
Things that make you go "Hmmmm"
WATS
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reply posted on 3-4-2006 @ 06:30 PM by 9ine_Lives
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Originally posted by toasted
was pretty interesting tho...
just my point...
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reply posted on 4-4-2006 @ 12:58 AM by 9ine_Lives
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Originally posted by captainhemmingway
It may surprise many to know that in the years prior to the birth of Christ the planetary population was around 200-300 million at the most (this
figure equates to around 1 to 1.5 persons per square mile of ‘habitable’ land on the earth), and over the centuries, (perhaps thanks to that water
wheel and the mill!), it grew to around 1.5 billion where it held itself in check mostly by man made war, famine and disease.
Anyone who knows the storyline of STARCRAFT would remember a world government (UED) started a mass culling of the population leaving behind only the
strong, intelligent well generally anybody who was of use to the human race. Personaly i think this MIGHT be one of the motives of the NWO...which as
bad as it might sound, would be a good idear given the amount of mentally unstable like murderers and people who just dont give a damn about anything
and are nothing but a complete waist of life.
Filter all these out and ofcoarse eliminate the government and you would have one fine looking planet. Let the people govern themselves, we were all
given intellignence for a reson...we were just never alowd to use it, but instead treated like children. has anyone noticed that whenever election
time comes around, the gov makes it look like a big game?? like something you would used on a child to make it more interested -well thats my
350cents.
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reply posted on 4-4-2006 @ 02:13 AM by Crazy_Mr_Crowley
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I'm pretty sure there is nothing to be scared about when it comes to this New World Order. I think it's obvious that the Global Elite know that the
game is over. Otherwise they would have gotten it over a long time ago.
V for Vendetta may not have been the best movie under the sun but they are correct when they say that governments should be afraid of their people.
And I think that this is the case.
Sure they might be able to scare the people into a New World Order but not many people will feel that what they are upholding is right. The system
will collapse on itself because not only are too many people smarted up about Al-Queda being a figment of the CIA but simply put whatever the NWO high
command will turn out to be and whatever orders they give I don't think to many people will be able to follow them because the best part about being
a human being is morale conscience.
Just like the 3rd Reich people will know that what they are doing is wrong. And when their orders are coming from a Military Government deep beneath
the bomb shelters of Colorado it will become quite clear who the real enemy is.
There is nothing to worry about on the larger scale. Sure a bloody revolution will occur and there will be some difficult times but at the end of the
day the spirit of the people will win out. I just think that everybody knows Deep down living under a tyranny is not the way. Surrendering our
freedoms for security is not what was envisioned for America. WHen the people surrender their freedoms they will know deep down that something is
wrong. Even if they're a staunch Bush supporter Morality will kick in.
This NWO will come to pass and it will put a black eye on history but all in all these people will fail in their endeavour. They won't get away with
it forever. The people will unite because the spirit of the people cannot be broken or taken away. The more people realize as they surrender their
freedoms the more the people will realize they have to band together in revolutionary spirit.
After All Kennedy was right when he said those who make Peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable.
A very bloody revolution will bring this NWO down. Staying alive however will prove to be a challenge in itself. I think a couple billion people are
going to dead by the time this coming war is over. Hopefully many of you come away with a different state of mind when it's all over. Especially the
people who are so easily willing to surrender their freedom for security at this juncture. They know they'll have made a mistake when the big
question is actually popped.
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reply posted on 5-4-2006 @ 07:04 PM by 9ine_Lives
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That is true...something good from something bad. And it would work. The key to this would be to cut down the population.
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reply posted on 6-4-2006 @ 12:57 PM by Long Lance
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I've waded through this stuff so i might as well post
What we have here is a prime example of shock & awe at work, pages and pages filled with matter-of-fact statements, without much in the way of
addressing the core point, namely how you arrived at the conclusions presented here, 20kt stone plates, secret societies, even the Fulcanelli episode
you cited, etc are nice and dandy, but they do NOT unambigously point to anything other than, well, hidden alternate history, the soul as an
orignially immortal entity needs to be confirmed, as well as the existance or even plausibilty of your predators. that part seems to have gone AWOL,
though.
If you're still lurking, Hemmingway, let me advise you to reconsider your method of novel development (no matter wether you wrote it alone or in a
group).
So, we're supposed to breed and die at good rates, why would war be of any real advantage. IF you don't understand that, let me clue you in: Ivory
hunting, and this is a usable analogy, is the most insensible thing to do, since elepahnts die naturally and you can wait, they even gather at
specific points, and all you have to do is collect your stuff, that way, more elephants live over time, which is all that counts, since they all die
sooner or later last time i've checked.
An alledgedly supremely advances species would of course know that, so this is all that's required to refute you, but let me go on:
Technology fed by them? why? to foster war? let's assume premature death was required, famine would be a better choice as it is much more reliable,
can't be used to test your active skills and affects all of a population if sufficiently severe. an advanced species capable of crafting the gourd of
ashes (aka nuke) as if it were candy, who could cheat us blind would as easily be able to target food crops as it could control an entire species, if
not much much easier.
In fact, it seems as technology was 'cropped', selected, distored and sometimes discarded in the course of our history, I'll give you ONE example,
Antonio Meucci, who, mid 19th century, invented the telephone, including a more obscure variety usually known as 'neurophone', yet banking circles
and the establishment did everything they could to a) get hold of his invention and b) use to their own advantage, and failed because they did not
understand the prototype.
Now, Bell is credited with the invention, a distortion among many. The entire drivel is based mostly on mainstream history, Hitler risen due to a
'black magician' ....and a hundred bankers supplying his party with unlimited credit, and probably talented artists for their PR show! come on, you
can't be that dense, the hitlerian party wasn't isolated during the 30s, in fact far too many westeners (especially those in higher positions)
admired them, even though no-one wants to hear that anymore. not as occult, is it?
Additionally, there are dead giveaways, like using the phrase 'miracles of marketing and high finance' which is essentially what many of us view as
manifestations of the NWO. this disqualifies the entire text on an emotional level, imho. Then we have the 'Atlanteans' who eternally have to take
the blame and praise for every odd abomination on earth. How do these guys fit in? were they food, too? if so why should their alledged descendants
try to maintain the status quo, they should be our allies. But i guess atlantis is by far too tempting not to include it's a word which says
everything and nothing at the same time, and mysterious to boot!
There ARE aspects which sound suspicously familiar, but then these may be borrowed to spice things up....
What i'm going to say at the end of my unfavorable review will not be liked too much by many: There is still the question of motive behind writing
pages and pages of confusing drivel, which, incidentially, features two tell-tale aspects of religion, namely Fear, and the (albeit clandestine)
worship of 'higher forces' and, well, simply power, mixed with a heavy dose of predetermination, to paraphrase:
Since *they* came frome a higher tech level, they can exactly predict our development (predetermination) and therefore understand us to the point of
controlling our thoughs by introducing viral messages. (allusion to omnipotence), and that's why we're all toast (Fear).
Too sad ain't it? let me close with a reversal of your statement in the first post
WHERE BETTER TO HIDE A LIE THAN AMONGST A THOUSAND TRUTHS?.
where better to hide the truth than amongst a thousand lies?
now the big question is which is it
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reply posted on 6-4-2006 @ 01:15 PM by Long Lance
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Originally posted by 9ine_Lives
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Filter all these out and ofcoarse eliminate the government and you would have one fine looking planet.
Life does not work that way, otherwise we'd have gotten rid of these problems, seeing as these methods were used to no avail, and to top it off,
Australia should be inhabited with born criminals, which it isn't, so this simplistic worldview is wrong.
If some kind of model society is more important than life, something went wrong, don't you think? Any utopian model which promises heaven by marching
though hell should be taekn with a grain of salt, just like the rest of this thread, btw:
..because in the end the entire story, although written in an alarming style and despertely trying to appeal to the conspiracy nut is just a grotesque
faksimile, trying to fake the real thing but making some amusing and mostly inevtable mistakes. i wrote the lengthy precurser post just to point that
out, effort, writing and feigned importance do not make it true.
Transparent and verifiable information, capable of standing scrutiny is a good indication of veracity, as is the willingness to discuss, to pursue
mutual understanding, the recognition consideration of counter-arguments.
guess how many of these traits the entire text has? n-o-n-e , not a single one, it's one-directional, like the TV which is rightly being dissed in
the text, and for the very same reason.
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reply posted on 15-7-2006 @ 09:19 PM by The Collective
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Originally posted by Long Lance
Originally posted by 9ine_Lives
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Filter all these out and ofcoarse eliminate the government and you would have one fine looking planet.
Life does not work that way, otherwise we'd have gotten rid of these problems, seeing as these methods were used to no avail, and to top it off,
Australia should be inhabited with born criminals, which it isn't, so this simplistic worldview is wrong.
9ine, kinda has a good point there. It would work that way, only the world has been run by a kind of government for so long it just doesnt know how to
work without one. Humans WERE given inteligence for a reson, i think a good way to use them would be as a collective and for the better of
humanity...9ines coments are somewhat harsh but in a way hold truth. NOW...it has just taken me like 40mins to read this entired thread, and i must
say Cpt.Hemmingway you have really made a some extremely good points here, i wonder why he hasnt posted in soo long?
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reply posted on 16-7-2006 @ 05:36 AM by Long Lance
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dunno why i still have this thread in my subscriptions catalog...
Let's just say that the idea of eliminating undesired elements may be harsh and unpopular and smell like hitlerism but all that does not make it
true, does it? life adapts, the 'bad guys' adapt without self-restraint which oftne conveys an advantage, especially in overregulated societies.
the fallacy is therefore, simple, you can't trust anyone, not your leader, not a collective, no-one and nothing, because corruption is too rewarding
not to happen, pretty much everything in the realm of power has been perverted so far, the key issue is to stop redistribution of power, because the
ones most capable of acquiring it are essentially robber barons and the least capable of 'running the show'. as if any single entitiy were.
PS: you're fighting ideas, not people, people just carry the ideas, action creates a similar reaction, and so on.
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reply posted on 16-7-2006 @ 01:16 PM by BattleofBatoche
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This was an interesting thread. We all know in our bones or gut instinct, something big is about to happen. More & more people are 'waking up"
that something isn't right and searching.
Here is a website link to a guy who thinks he figured it out. I've read the whole thing but it took a while. The guy is either a genius or a
schitzophrenic.
www.kealey.net...
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reply posted on 16-7-2006 @ 02:44 PM by OneMyrmidon
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I really have to say that I agrees with you, Captainhemmingway, its very good post. I'm pure American and I never feel like I'm living in freedom.
To me, democracy is the word of the prison. I felt like some elite and riches love to avoid most of people to achieve the goals in their lives. I
believe in God and Jesus and I don't even conciede with the religious because it is forceible and telling us what to do. There is way too many
different religions with symobolics and pressure. I don't like that kind of things. I do read the different bibles and they kept telling about the
"prophets who listen to word of God himself" and I doesn't even see or hear about one today. In general, we lives in screw up reality which
controls us with money, laws and powers. I will follow someone who willing to fight for love of people's freedom.
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reply posted on 16-7-2006 @ 11:59 PM by The Collective
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Originally posted by OneMyrmidon
I never feel like I'm living in freedom. To me, democracy is the word of the prison. I felt like some elite and riches love to avoid most of people
to achieve the goals in their lives. I believe in God and Jesus and I don't even conciede with the religious because it is forceible and telling us
what to do. There is way too many different religions with symobolics and pressure. I don't like that kind of things. I do read the different bibles
and they kept telling about the "prophets who listen to word of God himself" and I doesn't even see or hear about one today. In general, we lives
in screw up reality which controls us with money, laws and powers. I will follow someone who willing to fight for love of people's freedom.
Thats exactly what im getting at, Humans were given inteligence and free will for a reson...sadly we were never full able to use it through out human
history...there have always been some form of a power figure controlling us, what we see now in the world and how we all work as different societies
is all we know now, its just been soo long we are all "institutionalised" into this was of thinking...money, work....repeat process. At this rate
were all going nowhere, and its just about destroyed the world, Literaly. That is what the NWO is all about, eliminating this way of life, to better
what is left here.
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reply posted on 6-8-2006 @ 12:43 PM by toasted
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collective
about our" free will "
there are those that are
not so happy about that
ever hear of dr delgado ? [ do a search , dr jose delgado ]
I was doing some research
and came uopn this fellow [ along with aldous huxley ]
delgado . well not only has
he done some incredible mind
controlling experiments but his
comments make me cringe.
a quote ;
" "The individual may think that the most
important reality is his own existence, but
this is only his personal point of view. This
lacks historical perspective. Man does not
have the right to develop his own mind. [ <<< what ? ]
This kind of liberal orientation has great
appeal. We must electronically control the
brain. Someday armies and generals will
be controlled by electric stimulation of the brain."
Dr José Delgado,
Director of Neuropsychiatry
Yale University Medical School Congressional Record,
No. 26, Vol. 118 February 24, 1974 ""
now , isn't THAT SPECIAL !!!!!!
one must ask themselves
why would any free gov't ,
befriend a person who believed
those words ?
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and has anyonyone seen hemmingway ?
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reply posted on 6-8-2006 @ 03:28 PM by Long Lance
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the reason they're desperately trying to curtail free will (to the point of busting their whole enterprise) at any cost is that it allows people to
develop, in unpredictable ways. it seems as if a few people were mortally afraid of certain potential timelines in which they no longer exist...
btw, mind control can be as primitive as spamming the media (internet included) with baseless fantasies such as this thread... don't know why people
are doing it, don't know if they understand the purpose, but that's the effect, afaics.
PS: for the individual, his/her own life is usually the most important thing in existance, and elitists had better get over it before certain
timelines' probability approaches 1
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reply posted on 6-8-2006 @ 04:01 PM by Cinosamitna
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The people behind the NWO plan to reduce the Earth's population down to 2 billion by the year 2050. Global 2000 is a plan designed via the Club of
Rome to force vaccinate, create new diseases, terrorism, abortion, creating unessesary wars, depressions etc - anything which will result in a
decline in total world population. Another of the nasty things they are doing: mass flouridating the water supply in towns and major cities which
equates to forced druging our water supplies.
One of the most important things they do not want you to know, is how they were able to prevent American schools (even in law school) from teaching
the Constitution correctly and the necessary mindset which would of course destroy the NWO no longer exists. The Constitution grants every American
the right (even now) to dissolve the goverment and it is the only doctrine (besides the Bible and other scripture) which allows a nation to do this
without resorting to violence and bloodshed.
As you can see, 'the people' do not use the abilities which were granted as God given rights. Children and adults are not being taught the
Constittuional individuality mindset today It's a tragedy how many Americans know little to nothing about this but are still willing to go to war
overseas, thus helping to install dictators and support the spread of socialism and Communism (fast socialism) world wide - without knowing about it.
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reply posted on 6-8-2006 @ 04:27 PM by schallb
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from the Institute for Historical Review
""Behind the Belfour Declaration: Britain's Great War Pledge to Lord Rothschild""
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reply posted on 6-8-2006 @ 11:31 PM by toasted
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Cinosamitna
pop reduction
yeah I heard of it too
and when I examined it
it stunk , cuz it seems like
it's YET ANOTHER FREAKING
FABRICATION
I'm not saying they won't do it
I'm saying it's an excuse.
an excuse to what end is unclear.
but since there is plenty of evidence
we can feed more than we have now
I smell somethin' fishy.
not much to go on but
my opnion.
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reply posted on 6-8-2006 @ 11:52 PM by RetinoidReceptor
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This whole post sounds like a site I read about reptillians using humans for food, and we live in a universe controlled by a dark force...In any case,
I would like to ask the original poster how they know these things?
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