Uh Uh some more from veritas.

Y'all talk about this everyday, subconciously fantasizing about the mass culling of our species in a doom porn alternate reality.

It's so subconcious that you pride yourselves on "trying to get to the bottom" of this conspiracy, proving to.. someone? You hope it's not true? You honestly hope you're wrong about what you devote so much time to everyday? If it's wrong, will you feel stupid?

Nah, it'll just be like Nibiru never came in 2012

Like man, I believed all that crap and pounded the table to convince any and everyone I could about it, only for it to be false and I was just dreaming it up after the other guy convinced me of it.

Cool story bro. I like how you go back and puff up your old posts. Where did I say anything that this is the reality? It’s a possibility sure, could be true. Could be false. Could be part true could be part false.

Lol it’s all your words not mine.
The only thing I said was if you believe it’s justified then really believe in the cause and be first to go. Then I asked to degree would you believe it’s justified if it was happening. then i attempted to see who you believe it’s justified on. Is it everyone or just some people.

Project away projection man.
a reply to: Thrumbo

Quote from the Pfizer director:

"There is something irregular about their menstrual cycles...concerning...The vaccine shouldn't be interfering with that...It has to be affecting something hormonal..."

Considering the possibility of harm he goes on to say, “Yeah or the entire next generation’s super…f….d up? Could you imagine the scandal? Oh my God.”

originally posted by: Thrumbo
Considering how fast we're procreating relative to the past, how many billions upon billions of people are now on the planet when we used to just measure it in millions not long ago, something probably needed to be done to slow this down a little bit.

The bigger problem is the rapid shift it will cause, if true, in people's lives. The entire infrastructure is based on our current population number... it takes that number to run it and everyone has become too specialized. If we lose a massive amount of people within a generation the basics we are used to will be gone. People in trades like plumbing, building, mechanics, doctors, farmers, you name it, will be in massive short supply and we currently do not know how to live without even basics, how to grow or forage local food. Very few people are all rounded in their skills anymore and families/friends are strewn all over the planet so we don't have the tribal benefit of pulling together for the group. I see much of this causing an even further cascade of death as skills get lost. If true, of course. But I think many of us knew the lockdowns were the start of this cascade but it keeps getting worse.

originally posted by: Thrumbo
Considering how fast we're procreating relative to the past, how many billions upon billions of people are now on the planet when we used to just measure it in millions not long ago, something probably needed to be done to slow this down a little bit.

If a stick isn't thrown into the spokes of that wheel, how fast would it end up spinning while going downhill? How did we go from millions to billion to almost double digit billions in record timing? As there becomes more people on the planet, the number of offspring that will come from them increases at an even faster, larger rate.

Humans can procreate exponentially but there wont be exponential jobs and dwelling at the same rate as the offspring. If preparing meals for purchase is at the bottom of the totem pole, the people buying them have to have the money to do so. Which means, they need jobs other than preparing food for purchase.

So if this is indeed a conspiracy, maybe it's not so bad. If it was proven to be true, you guys wouldn't have much to talk about though except for saying I told you so. That's got to be good for a few stars I'd think.

I agree that we have many problems. The population of our planet has almost tripled in my lifetime. Though I think it is predicted to top out at 9-12 billion (depending who you listen to).

Overpopulation will become more obvious (if it isn't already) as billions of people start to rise from poverty and require a modern western lifestyle. Which they most definitely should do. Eradicating poverty should be one of our most pressing goals.

Unfortunately the same class of numbskulls (politicians, economists, economic "elite" in general) that decades/centuries promoted the need for unfettered growth (both economic and population) as a necessity for prosperity have recently done a u-turn, and now realise that it is becoming a problem (or have now realised that it could also affect them). Wasn't such growth considered the driving force behind capitalism?

The big problem is that this class of people that run the place (the "elite" for want of a more realistic term) have generally been incompetent and heavily weighted towards psychopathy.

There are all sorts of principles, ethics and basic human rights to consider here. Whether you believe our population is too much, or not, we have no choice but to continue being guided by such ethics and principles if we want to remain a "humanity", instead of a genocidal authoritarian dystopia.

Though personally I'm also open to the possibility that my opinion is simply wrong. As much as the people on earth (all of them) deserve similar basic rights, I also care about the other species that humanity tosses aside and consider this heavily in my estimations. They also deserve consideration and species diversity seems to be fading.

a reply to: anonentity

don't forget 1% equals most oppressed minority in history.. isn't that how they are paying this now.. id as most oppressed..

a reply to: Quintilian

the problem here is your thinking doesn't apply to them.. the eugenicists devised western lifestyle to sterilise the poor not them...

Beveridge sold it to the eugenicists in the 40s as the inverted birth rate, the idea is to use the welfare state to increase the wealth of the poor not so they can thrive and be happy but just so much the welfare state enables the “social promotion of the infertile” as in their minds “economic success means biological failure”,

so your thinking is not far from that of the big 5 eugenicists..

you see they wanted to save the British race, but they don't include poor Britons in their idea of British race.. and that is where this stuff gets mixed up.. the British welfare state is eugenicist through and through its baked into its existence..

stepping back, so what does western lifestyle actually mean and is it fair to foster that onto the poor people of the world, elevate them to biological failure?

I kind of get berated on this especially by the defenders of the nhs but it's all in the archives.. the welcome group and lse have done a lot of work on the topic, ironically the center of international eugenics s where we got our covid models, social rules and lockdown science...imperial..

there is a reason it all emanates from the same institutes..

its hard to place trust in a group with this kind of history and long term intentions..

Pfizer is no doubt one of the most evil corporations there is.


Project Veritas ‘Bombshell’: Pfizer Exec Expressed Concern Vaccines Might Harm Women’s Reproductive Health

“I hope we don’t find out that somehow this mRNA lingers in the body and like — because it has to be affecting something hormonal to impact menstrual cycles,” he said.

“Or like the entire next generation is like super fuc*ed,” he added. “Could you imagine the scandal? Oh my god, I’d… take Pfizer off my resume.”

“I hope we don’t discover something really bad down the line…If something were to happen downstream and it was, like, really bad? I mean, the scale of that scandal would be enormous.”

Jeeeeeez...


F ing criminals

originally posted by: nickyw
a reply to: Quintilian

the problem here is your thinking doesn't apply to them.. the eugenicists devised western lifestyle to sterilise the poor not them...

Fair enough, and while I could be wrong, I have some doubts about that specific claim.

I see the neo feudalism we have now (in the west) as an intermediate stage in the struggle from slavery and genuine feudalism, to something better in the future. Un upward curve hopefully, certainly had some setbacks recently though.

Beveridge sold it to the eugenicists in the 40s as the inverted birth rate, the idea is to use the welfare state to increase the wealth of the poor not so they can thrive and be happy but just so much the welfare state enables the “social promotion of the infertile” as in their minds “economic success means biological failure”,

so your thinking is not far from that of the big 5 eugenicists..

Again I have some doubts that I'm a witting, or even unwitting eugenics proponent. My thinking is that people deserve to live a dignified life free of the struggle for basic survival that many non westerners (and some westerners) seem subject to. I'm also well aware that much of the west is built on ethnic cleansing and genocide (that is still celebrated in some circles). So I don't doubt that nefarious intentions exist, but lifting people out of poverty itself is not de facto, or necessarily indicative of that.

I'm sure we'll differ over "welfare" also, but no matter. It will always be necessary to some extent. For example lots of homeless people are psychologically afflicted and are forgotten by society. They need and deserve help.

I also think everyone deserves free health care as a basic human right.

stepping back, so what does western lifestyle actually mean and is it fair to foster that onto the poor people of the world, elevate them to biological failure?

An increase in gdp. Possibly to some western norm, maybe an OECD average? Where people survive easily, have access to basic education, clean water, enough food and access to medicine so health increases and they have ample leisure time for other creative pursuits.

This is set to happen anyway to some extent. By mid century country gdp's are going to be more reflective of population numbers. As people become more affluent and especially as women become more independent and have access to education, birth numbers drop. This is the general thinking behind why our population numbers are not going to keep rising, but will hit a limit.

One problem there though, is that national gdp isn't necessarily a measure of what the average person experiences. As we see that the economic elite find inventive ways to siphon wealth from the masses (often via war). We have just seen a pandemic used as a pretext for the largest upward transfer of wealth in human history.

I kind of get berated on this especially by the defenders of the nhs but it's all in the archives.. the welcome group and lse have done a lot of work on the topic, ironically the center of international eugenics s where we got our covid models, social rules and lockdown science...imperial..

there is a reason it all emanates from the same institutes..

its hard to place trust in a group with this kind of history and long term intentions..

Well, I consider Imperial not so much a group of academics as "astrologers" and "soothsayers" with letters after their name. Charlatans basically.

I also agree that the pandemic response was a direct attack on the elderly/sick and the underprivileged.

I remember reading from the UN that lockdowns would place 150 million people at peril of starvation in less affluent countries in the first year. So I understand the mistrust, but I don't see our corporate/political systems changing much in the near future. That doesn't mean I have given up hope altogether though.

originally posted by: Thrumbo
Considering how fast we're procreating relative to the past, how many billions upon billions of people are now on the planet when we used to just measure it in millions not long ago, something probably needed to be done to slow this down a little bit.

If a stick isn't thrown into the spokes of that wheel, how fast would it end up spinning while going downhill? How did we go from millions to billion to almost double digit billions in record timing? As there becomes more people on the planet, the number of offspring that will come from them increases at an even faster, larger rate.

Humans can procreate exponentially but there wont be exponential jobs and dwelling at the same rate as the offspring. If preparing meals for purchase is at the bottom of the totem pole, the people buying them have to have the money to do so. Which means, they need jobs other than preparing food for purchase.

So if this is indeed a conspiracy, maybe it's not so bad. If it was proven to be true, you guys wouldn't have much to talk about though except for saying I told you so. That's got to be good for a few stars I'd think.

Seriously?

a reply to: Quintilian

;up: for the considered reply

the Wellcome group, even the UKs national trust are good places to start in terms of how we got here and how the eugenicists baked their ideas into the western lifestyle and the purpose of the welfare state to create a sterile future the evolution of incels into trans highlights that part pretty clearly.. its through the inverted birth rate some think the world will max out at 12bn.. it why the West even tried to export its lifestyle to Afghanistan..

I see the successful western model as being sympathetic to local cultures and meshing the best of each rather than trying to replacing the local ones.. what we have now doesn't deserve to survive as we have let go of excellent land and animal husbandry for a form of destructive science even rewilding isn't good land or animal husbandry its as destructive as it doesn't care about either the land or animal, all for the sake of building more homes to feed more mouth on less land..

I'm truly sceptical in terms of unintended outcomes to all these things (like china's 1 child policy), but I was pointing out that these ideas are baked into the western world and it's lifestyle for a reason.. the true reason is the workers want more rights and better lives but the system is geared to keep them suppressed..

when combined I can not see how the west can survive the coming crises.. something has to give and man being man it can only mean othering and war.. so not good for good land or animal husbandry..

I can see how simply corporate greed is behind this getting so far out of hands. Combined with human error.
Meaning the business end of the companies did what its designed to do: maximazing profit.
What's a little curious is that it had to be a Coronavirus. That we were working on a vaccine for a long time and failed, but suddenly with the prospect of huge wins and public exposure we had one in weeks.
I mean politicians can't and don't have to be experts on everything, but that's so obviously suspicious.

But then politics ran with it, locking everybody in, it was ... here they directly tied vaccination numbers to the degree of normal they'd allow us.
That makes it all honestly looking a bit like guilty, the pressure, the endless repitition,... that says to me the vaccine was important for more than its advertised effect and the tax payer gets to give them their bonus with the insane amount of doses that expire because nobody wants them. They calculated 8 doses per person and in a very short time.
If there's any criminal intent and that was the goal : 1:0 for us I'd say.

I mean of course every 'what if' is useless, a distraction at best.
But if the amount they ordered was really intended to be injected: they tried to kill us.
Alternatively Big Pharma scammed Politics.
Or they are all so stupid they're a danger to themselves and us.

a reply to: Thrumbo

There's already too many people apparently.

Who told you that ?
A few years ago , when the population was 2 billion , you could bring every man , woman , and child together in the state of Texas. There would still be 18" radius of space around each person .
Consider that , and walk away more knowledgeable .
And forget what you saw in a video or what your neighbor told you .

a reply to: Thrumbo

So, you are basically saying it is fine that they did this?
Without consent?
Basically experiment on us like lab rats?
Putting women (and men) through horrific miscarriages? (Hits too close to home to me right now)

What is wrong with you?

originally posted by: igloo

originally posted by: Thrumbo
Considering how fast we're procreating relative to the past, how many billions upon billions of people are now on the planet when we used to just measure it in millions not long ago, something probably needed to be done to slow this down a little bit.

The bigger problem is the rapid shift it will cause, if true, in people's lives. The entire infrastructure is based on our current population number... it takes that number to run it and everyone has become too specialized. If we lose a massive amount of people within a generation the basics we are used to will be gone.

Ummm...hence the wide-open southern border...and the lack of screening for covid...or for vax status...

Those are the malleable...guaranteed to vote progressive...replacements...



YouSir

Going with what the man says in the video, he specifically refers to the actual pathway as the HPG.... Gonads which is the general term for all reproductive systems.... so that also includes men.
If he was meaning just females he would surely have said ovaries at the end of the hypothalamus-pituitary pathway.
Women's issues are going to be obvious because of their periods. You wait until the rest of the 'gonads' become evident and watch the male outcry at that point!
I'm also keeping a beady eye on post menopausal women. There have been a few reports of post menopausal women's menses coming back. Just before Christmas, I detected a 'rod' in the ovary area of one of my female, post menopausal vaccinated client. I kept schtum at that point. Same right side of body as the C19 point I found way back in 2020. Yesterday another 63 year old client, vaxxed... exactly same thing. It disappeared between treatments with my pre-Christmas client. I'll be interested to see what yesterday's client presents with in 4 weeks time.

Rainbows
Jane

originally posted by: angelchemuel
Going with what the man says in the video, he specifically refers to the actual pathway as the HPG.... Gonads which is the general term for all reproductive systems.... so that also includes men.
If he was meaning just females he would surely have said ovaries at the end of the hypothalamus-pituitary pathway.
Women's issues are going to be obvious because of their periods. You wait until the rest of the 'gonads' become evident and watch the male outcry at that point!
I'm also keeping a beady eye on post menopausal women. There have been a few reports of post menopausal women's menses coming back. Just before Christmas, I detected a 'rod' in the ovary area of one of my female, post menopausal vaccinated client. I kept schtum at that point. Same right side of body as the C19 point I found way back in 2020. Yesterday another 63 year old client, vaxxed... exactly same thing. It disappeared between treatments with my pre-Christmas client. I'll be interested to see what yesterday's client presents with in 4 weeks time.

Rainbows
Jane

It explains the exploding balls phenomena:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: chiefsmom

its the desensitised world we live in sadly.

such worlds only decline or implode..

This thread has a lot info :


Pfertility Megathread

you pretty much nailed it a reply to: ManBehindTheMask