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Myocarditis or Pericarditis Study In Post COVID-19 Unvaccinated Patients

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posted on Jan, 15 2023 @ 06:12 AM
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No link between COVID-19 the disease in an unvaccinated population and either myocarditis or pericarditis. Over 200,000 people in the study group. This important to know yes ? because we are talking so much about the sudden deaths/Myocarditis .


The Incidence of Myocarditis and Pericarditis in Post COVID-19 Unvaccinated Patients—A Large Population-Based Study




Abstract

Myocarditis and pericarditis are potential post-acute cardiac sequelae of COVID-19 infection, arising from adaptive immune responses. We aimed to study the incidence of post-acute COVID-19 myocarditis and pericarditis. Retrospective cohort study of 196,992 adults after COVID-19 infection in Clalit Health Services members in Israel between March 2020 and January 2021. Inpatient myocarditis and pericarditis diagnoses were retrieved from day 10 after positive PCR. Follow-up was censored on 28 February 2021, with minimum observation of 18 days. The control cohort of 590,976 adults with at least one negative PCR and no positive PCR were age- and sex-matched. Since the Israeli vaccination program was initiated on 20 December 2020, the time-period matching of the control cohort was calculated backward from 15 December 2020. Nine post-COVID-19 patients developed myocarditis (0.0046%), and eleven patients were diagnosed with pericarditis (0.0056%). In the control cohort, 27 patients had myocarditis (0.0046%) and 52 had pericarditis (0.0088%). Age (adjusted hazard ratio [aHR] 0.96, 95% confidence interval [CI]; 0.93 to 1.00) and male sex (aHR 4.42; 95% CI, 1.64 to 11.96) were associated with myocarditis. Male sex (aHR 1.93; 95% CI 1.09 to 3.41) and peripheral vascular disease (aHR 4.20; 95% CI 1.50 to 11.72) were associated with pericarditis. Post COVID-19 infection was not associated with either myocarditis (aHR 1.08; 95% CI 0.45 to 2.56) or pericarditis (aHR 0.53; 95% CI 0.25 to 1.13). We did not observe an increased incidence of neither pericarditis nor myocarditis in adult patients recovering from COVID-19 infection.





5. Conclusions

Our data suggest that there is no increase in the incidence of myocarditis and pericarditis in COVID-19 recovered patients compared to uninfected matched controls. Further longer-term studies will be needed to estimate the incidence of pericarditis and myocarditis in patients diagnosed with COVID-19.






posted on Jan, 15 2023 @ 06:16 AM
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posted on Jan, 15 2023 @ 07:18 AM
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A process of elimination until we get down to the brass tacks. They just eliminated the main go to cause, that cause being getting COVID itself. They will continue to deflect from the vaccines being part of this problem and this will go on for years regardless of how much research points to the jab as a main cause of this. They might start admitting it was vaccine related in another 10 years, a big maybe on that one though.



posted on Jan, 15 2023 @ 08:41 AM
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a reply to: MichiganSwampBuck



Agree, they do anything to try hide the truth .

People will loose trust to whole medical science , because the jabs but also all other cover up`s etc..at least part of the population, Covidians will take 10th booster if they are still here then..



posted on Jan, 15 2023 @ 10:11 AM
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Here's another study that shows the exact opposite.

The #1 cause of myocarditis is, always has been, and always will be viral infection. This has been known for decades.



posted on Jan, 15 2023 @ 10:23 AM
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a reply to: LordAhriman


The OP study was done with unvaccinated people.

The study you speak was done with vaccinated people



posted on Jan, 15 2023 @ 10:43 AM
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Dr. John Campbell speaks about this very same study as in the OP .




posted on Jan, 15 2023 @ 11:11 AM
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a reply to: LordAhriman

Isn't this discussion fairly irrelevant, considering where the virus originated and for what purpose it was originated? So one gets myocarditis or pericarditis from the virus or from the vaccine is irrelevant considering that the original intent of both is to reduce global populations.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.



posted on Jan, 15 2023 @ 11:26 AM
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a reply to: MichiganSwampBuck

The government with big pharma are going to wait when entire families die before admitting wrong doings, so they do not have to pay the surviving law sues if any.

Let's see if the protections will be allowed to expire or extend, if the government extend them, you know that means everything we know about the jabs and side effects is true.



posted on Jan, 15 2023 @ 11:31 AM
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originally posted by: Antisocialist
a reply to: LordAhriman

Isn't this discussion fairly irrelevant, considering where the virus originated and for what purpose it was originated? So one gets myocarditis or pericarditis from the virus or from the vaccine is irrelevant considering that the original intent of both is to reduce global populations.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.



If the intention was to depopulate, why did they use such a futile method?

Surely they could have faked a world war and deployed nukes, and/or have used really deadly pathogens or poisons?



posted on Jan, 15 2023 @ 11:41 AM
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originally posted by: Kenzo


No link between COVID-19 the disease in an unvaccinated population and either myocarditis or pericarditis. Over 200,000 people in the study group. This important to know yes ? because we are talking so much about the sudden deaths/Myocarditis .


The Incidence of Myocarditis and Pericarditis in Post COVID-19 Unvaccinated Patients—A Large Population-Based Study




Abstract

Myocarditis and pericarditis are potential post-acute cardiac sequelae of COVID-19 infection, arising from adaptive immune responses. We aimed to study the incidence of post-acute COVID-19 myocarditis and pericarditis. Retrospective cohort study of 196,992 adults after COVID-19 infection in Clalit Health Services members in Israel between March 2020 and January 2021. Inpatient myocarditis and pericarditis diagnoses were retrieved from day 10 after positive PCR. Follow-up was censored on 28 February 2021, with minimum observation of 18 days. The control cohort of 590,976 adults with at least one negative PCR and no positive PCR were age- and sex-matched. Since the Israeli vaccination program was initiated on 20 December 2020, the time-period matching of the control cohort was calculated backward from 15 December 2020. Nine post-COVID-19 patients developed myocarditis (0.0046%), and eleven patients were diagnosed with pericarditis (0.0056%). In the control cohort, 27 patients had myocarditis (0.0046%) and 52 had pericarditis (0.0088%). Age (adjusted hazard ratio [aHR] 0.96, 95% confidence interval [CI]; 0.93 to 1.00) and male sex (aHR 4.42; 95% CI, 1.64 to 11.96) were associated with myocarditis. Male sex (aHR 1.93; 95% CI 1.09 to 3.41) and peripheral vascular disease (aHR 4.20; 95% CI 1.50 to 11.72) were associated with pericarditis. Post COVID-19 infection was not associated with either myocarditis (aHR 1.08; 95% CI 0.45 to 2.56) or pericarditis (aHR 0.53; 95% CI 0.25 to 1.13). We did not observe an increased incidence of neither pericarditis nor myocarditis in adult patients recovering from COVID-19 infection.





5. Conclusions

Our data suggest that there is no increase in the incidence of myocarditis and pericarditis in COVID-19 recovered patients compared to uninfected matched controls. Further longer-term studies will be needed to estimate the incidence of pericarditis and myocarditis in patients diagnosed with COVID-19.





This is pretty much what you'd expect. These are people who are no longer sick with covid.

It's like saying that you've done a study of people who had chicken pox and saying that they're no longer itchy once they've gotten over it.



posted on Jan, 15 2023 @ 11:42 AM
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originally posted by: Kenzo

I just put this here also :


compilation: peer reviewed medical papers of covid vaccine injuries


And they demonstrate clearly that side effects are rare and mostly mild. Requiring only bed for most people.

This is in line with the measles and flu shots.



posted on Jan, 15 2023 @ 11:47 AM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Antisocialist
a reply to: LordAhriman

Isn't this discussion fairly irrelevant, considering where the virus originated and for what purpose it was originated? So one gets myocarditis or pericarditis from the virus or from the vaccine is irrelevant considering that the original intent of both is to reduce global populations.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.



If the intention was to depopulate, why did they use such a futile method?

Surely they could have faked a world war and deployed nukes, and/or have used really deadly pathogens or poisons?


I've asked this more times than I can remember.

If covid were a bio-weapons designed to reduce the world population why make one that kills pretty much nobody.

The same with the vax. It's got a mortality rate on par with the existing flu shot. Why make a weapon that's so ineffective.

If the aim really was to reduce the population it would be much simpler to just give people free abortions on demand. Cheaper too. You could just run an abortion bus around all of the poor neighborhoods offering people free crispy cream with each abortion, and you'd knock hundreds of thousand off of the US population in no time.

Or ... and this might sound crazy ... just encourage people to use condoms more. People will reduce their own population, and it's all totally above board. No need to destroy the country to do it.



posted on Jan, 15 2023 @ 11:48 AM
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originally posted by: Kenzo

Agree, they do anything to try hide the truth .

People will loose trust to whole medical science , because the jabs but also all other cover up`s etc..at least part of the population, Covidians will take 10th booster if they are still here then..



I don't think they are hiding anything as you were able to post real observations. They just do not see it as a true risk and so seem to accept it. Maybe a big part of this is to defend the mandates as there wasn't any measurable risk from the virus to force the vaccine outside of ensuring the high-risk groups were protected. Even all under 40 and healthy there just isn't the data to support it and under 25 for males and females it should be NOT recommended unless the person is high-risk.

We are now 2 years from the release, and it seems they are unwilling to budge off their initial directions even after two years of data now, and worst feel it is needed to expand to children under 10.



posted on Jan, 15 2023 @ 11:49 AM
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originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: LordAhriman


The OP study was done with unvaccinated people.

The study you speak was done with vaccinated people




You may want to read the study again.

This doesn't show that covid doesn't cause heart inflammation, it shows that it's rare for covid to cause lasting heart damage in people who are no longer sick with it.

Inflammation is of this type is typically caused by the body's reaction to a viral infection. No more virus, no more inflamation.



posted on Jan, 15 2023 @ 01:03 PM
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I know how disturbing it can be when you stop to think about the callous disregard for human safety in this debacle - from soup to nuts. And I know that for some (especially those with a personal stake) it can be enraging to see this all 'evolve' into precisely what quite a few warned would happen.

But we must reconcile ourselves that what many are envisioning as "justice served" will never come to pass.

The people who made it possible for this virus to exist (let alone to be 'set loose' upon the world) will never meet justice. They are simple 'employees.'

The people who profiteered upon the disease are 'immune from prosecution (there's a pun in there)' by their own demand.

The people who exploited the disease to create chaos and disharmony are the very people we trust to accurately tell us what's happening - would they ever self-incriminate?

Those who exploited the global economy to create massive transfers of wealth are only "doing what they always do."

Those theatrical puppets who "played for points" inciting social compliance while engendering hatred are 'popular idiots' that didn't care to distinguish the forest for the trees.

No where can you find a culpable person who could - even if only in theory say - "Sorry folks! My bad."

What court system isn't somehow complicit? What tool of justice exists that can cope with "grand corruption."

We sure as hell can do everything in our power to see that nothing like this ever can happen again... and pray that this alone isn't as bad as some apparently wished it could be.



posted on Jan, 15 2023 @ 02:26 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Antisocialist
a reply to: LordAhriman

Isn't this discussion fairly irrelevant, considering where the virus originated and for what purpose it was originated? So one gets myocarditis or pericarditis from the virus or from the vaccine is irrelevant considering that the original intent of both is to reduce global populations.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.



If the intention was to depopulate, why did they use such a futile method?

Surely they could have faked a world war and deployed nukes, and/or have used really deadly pathogens or poisons?

The end result of the effects of the vaccine are yet to be realized. The vaccine may have residual effects even into succeeding generations. One residual may be sterility in the offspring of the vaccinated. Who knows what these vaccines may manifest in future generations.

Stealth is the optimum term here. Blatantly killing off millions of people would be far too obvious to be overlooked by the masses.



posted on Jan, 15 2023 @ 02:34 PM
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Theres no way this is true because it goes against my ideology.

All those 1500 peer reviewed studies are false and a few cherry picked and flawed big pharma funded studies are true.





posted on Jan, 15 2023 @ 02:36 PM
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posted on Jan, 15 2023 @ 03:35 PM
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I think either way it will all be moot fairly soon. There was a reason the Chinese Communist Party leadership have fought so hard NOT to catch Covid. This could be a very interesting and pivotal year.

Incidentally the vaccines are utter rubbish and anyone defending them now must be verging on the delusional. The game is up, just accept it. You just didn’t know the game you were playing.




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