Russian sanctions slow to bite as US officials admit frustrations over pace of pain in Moscow

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: TritonTaranis

Did you get your BS from chubby KimDot wrongen??

Did you not simply ignore that Ukraine has the so called foreign legion and had being using it since the start of the conflict in Feb?

We know who carried out the counter offensive it certainly wasn't a hand full of You tubers, that would be odd

Why dont you bring tik tok videos while we are at it next time.

Are you trying to claim that foreign volunteers who enlisted in the Ukrainian army are 'mercenaries'?

They aren't.

a reply to: Ilikesecrets

People forgot that the U.S.S.R. broke up and so did their money, they came back and they are used to this, it's no big deal for them. And all Russia want's is Ukraine back. What's so terrible about this?

Jeezus....are you f'ing serious????

a reply to: vonclod

Some ignore the "color revolutions" happened in Europe before the fall break up of USSR.

a reply to: vNex92

Taiwan is a part of China, however it is not apart of the CCCP, or the government of the Peoples Republic of China, which is communist. To put it simply, if you read history, The Nationalists were fighting a civil war with the communists when the Japanese invaded, they both teamed up for a time to fight the japanese, however as the Japanese influence faded due to american beating on Japan, the Nationalists and Communists turned on each other. While the Nationalists were the ones hitting the Japanese hard, the Communists were gathering strength. During the civil war, the Nationalist were winning, beating the communists down to 10k. As the Nationalists turned and attacked the Japanese, it gave the Communists breathing room, and they reformed in the countryside, gathering force from the peasant population. The Communists then beat on the Nationalists, and the USA could not reinforce them, while the Russians reinforced the Communists. The Nationalists were forced to retreat, and moved eventually to Taiwan. The Communists Established a government and so did the Taiwanese. Up to the 1971, Taiwan was the recognized government of China. In 1971, the CCCP was recognized, as they outnumbered the population of Taiwan drastically, talking 10k to 1. As you can see, Taiwan has never been a part of the CCCP, they formed their own identity and government and as such, while they are Chinese originally, they have not been for almost 70 years. They are their own nation state, and if the CCCP gave up, Then Taiwan would join China tomorrow, however given the fact that they both have unique forms of government and identity, its not realistic for them to blend back together. China has to give up Communist rule, and that will not happen. As time contintues, eventually Taiwan will declare independance.

As far as Crimea, While the Russians no doubt did do stupid stuff there, almost 75% of crimea identified as russian, Russian was the language spoken there, and Russia had bases there. Yes, I can see Crimea believing it should be part of Russia, HOWEVER, Russia agreed to recognize Ukraines borders in order for Ukraine to give up its nuclear arsenal, which at the time was the 3rd largest in the world. I am willing to bet Ukraine will never do that deal again. Should Ukraine have Crimea, maybe, maybe not. Time will tell.

As far as the sanctions, The only way for the sanctions to work is to get China and India to stop buying raw resources from Russia. It is not beneficial for either to do that right now. The only way to make that happen is to either entice them, or threaten them. I vote neither, just stop trading with them, that solves the issue. Why should we allow nations that benefit from the deaths in Ukraine, and prolong the war in Ukraine to benefit while forcing our allies in Europe to suffer. You want to hurt Russia, two solutions:

For India, simply state that reducing internet bandwidth to 56k dial-up speeds for ever single IP coming into the USA. This will eliminate Video Conferencing, as well as Remote internet connections. Tell them that every month they continue to trade with Russia, we will half the connection. Eventually, in 2 months time, VOIP calls will be impossible, and every outsource blue collar person working in India will be out of a job, as they can't perform the labor.

This can have an added effect of increasing outsourcing to Poland and Eastern Europe, Increasing jobs, and connecting our connections to eastern Europe. The longer this goes on for, the harder it will be on India and the more it will damage their economy in many major cities, as the Blue Collar workforce goes into decay. To date there is almost 4 Million outsourced IT/Business jobs in India, it doesn't sound like much, but their is a lot of money that circulates as a result, as an example, 1 dollar is circulated 10X on average in America, it would be the same there.

For China, notify the car industry, that all cars must not only be made in america, but every single part must be 50% sourced from someplace other than China. That means that China will lose that industry. Tell the car industry they have 120 days to prepare, at which time, congress will implement it. The only way to stop it, is for China to stop trade with Russia, at which point the USA will reduce this back to normal levels provided China does not attempt to circumvent the Russian Sanctions, in which case, if its found to have circumvented, or ignores the USA, after 120, all manufacturers will need to find the parts 50%, and another 120 cycle will start requiring 50% sourced outside of the China and 50% sourced within the USA itself. This will force the manufacturers to move any and all remaining back to the USA. After another 120 days, this goes up to 50% sources in the USA, and 25% sourced from Europe, and after another 120 days 50% sourced from the USA, and 50% sourced from Europe.

With this clearly outlined, manufacturers will prempt the 50% not american sourced, by moving to Europe, more than likely Poland and Eastern Europe, this will drive their economies up, and further solidify our allies. The longer China waits, the harder the impact, hence they will cut off trade. If not, after a year, 240 start doing it to other industries too.

In the mean time, with that being the stick, over them both a carrot. If it is quickly and efficiently implemented, formerly assist India with Natural Gas and Oil development, Solar, and Wind. With China, tell them Trade will stay the same, that is carrot enough.

For the American Economy, open up oil and gas exploration territories specific to being developed only through partnership with USA firms, which India can buy into, Further, give India the incentive that if they do it immediately, and stay true to it, We will establish car trade treaties where the parts can be made there. This will incentive india to move quickly. Once India moves, China will follow, as the economic damage will be significant and we are proping up India to be a regional power comparable to China. China wants to be top dog, they wont like that.

That my two cents at how to make a dent quickly, that said, it could also cause ww3 too, so might want to ignore my advice.

Camain

a reply to: MidnightWatcher

They aren't.

Yes they are.
Do ignore that point as much you prefer.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: TritonTaranis

For those who support Ukraine on here have no issues stating that Russia uses mercenaries.

But you quickly deny anyone mentioning that there are American mercenaries like the black water ones..

Good to see the double standards.

Maybe nobody f'ing cares!!! concept that.

Russia invaded a European country..normal people think that's bad..not sure what you don't understand about that

This bull#e in the Ukraine, has been going on, on and off for hundreds of years

a reply to: camain

As far as Crimea, While the Russians no doubt did do stupid stuff there, almost 75% of crimea identified as russian, Russian was the language spoken there, and Russia had bases there. Yes, I can see Crimea believing it should be part of Russia, HOWEVER, Russia agreed to recognize Ukraines borders in order for Ukraine to give up its nuclear arsenal, which at the time was the 3rd largest in the world. I am willing to bet Ukraine will never do that deal again. Should Ukraine have Crimea, maybe, maybe not. Time will tell.

Your numbers are off its about 80% which identified as Russian that who speak of Rus language. The Crimean Tatars are a minority which originated from the , Goths, Bulgars, Khazars..

recognize Ukraine's borders in order for Ukraine to give up its nuclear arsenal, which at the time was the 3rd largest in the world.

That decsion alone was due because of the US reagan admin officials who were demanding USSR collapse.

Regarding Crimea's independence.
Crimea had a independence referendum in the 90s but was rejected.

I am willing to bet Ukraine will never do that deal again

You mean its Rus that wont be doing that deal again.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: MidnightWatcher

They aren't.

Yes they are.
Do ignore that point as much you prefer.

Are the French Foreign Legion members 'mercenaries'?

How about foreigners who enlist in the US military?



I guess it depends on your definition.




Ukraine has not hired private military contractors.

Ukraine does allow foreigners to enlist in the Ukrainian army.

Is that more acceptable to you?

a reply to: vNex92


"That decsion alone was due because of the US reagan admin officials who were demanding USSR collapse"


He demanded that russia tear down a wall, not collapse.

Frankly, most of us were quite surprised when ussr suddenly collapsed.






"recognize Ukraine's borders in order for Ukraine to give up its nuclear arsenal, which at the time was the 3rd largest in the world."


That was AFTER the ussr collapse.

a reply to: MidnightWatcher

Analysis: Blackwater Mercenaries: NATO’s secret weapon in Ukraine war


Private military firms see demand in Ukraine war

US and European private contractors say they are increasingly eying opportunities, ranging from 'extraction' missions to helping with logistics.

Blackwater founder Erik Prince had plans to create a $10 billion private army in Ukraine, Time reports

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: vonclod

Some ignore the "color revolutions" happened in Europe before the fall break up of USSR.

Some ignore the violent occupations of the USSR

OR The Communist Cultural Revolution?

And hundreds of millions of dead

Who would have though there was such demand underground to exploit from breaking free of the shackles of totalitarian powers?

When Xi & Putin talk of suppressing color revolutions, what they really mean is genocide to hold on to POWER

We'll see how that goes down

a reply to: MidnightWatcher

He demanded that russia tear down a wall, not collapse.

That's why they pushed a regime change had in Boris Yeltsin to break down Russia and ruin the ecmcony.. Why you believe millions of Russians to protest Yeltsin?

His polices were being advised by western officials.

a reply to: vNex92


These contain speculation, not evidence.

Try again.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: MidnightWatcher

Analysis: Blackwater Mercenaries: NATO’s secret weapon in Ukraine war


Private military firms see demand in Ukraine war

US and European private contractors say they are increasingly eying opportunities, ranging from 'extraction' missions to helping with logistics.

Blackwater founder Erik Prince had plans to create a $10 billion private army in Ukraine, Time reports

GOOD

Slightly more professional that prison junkies ?>

a reply to: TritonTaranis

Some ignore the violent occupations of the USSR

As Hillary would say What differences does that make?


How is that any different from what the super state Euporean Union with the US are now trying to do with what the USSR did in the cold war?

USSR and Eastern Europe only happened because of WW2.

a reply to: TritonTaranis


I thought Ukraine should have hired private companies to create, equip & operate entire BTGs, but Ukraine decided that all volunteers must enlist as a regular Ukrainian soldier instead.

a reply to: TritonTaranis

Some on here are blasting Rus for using a private army but are silent or supportive when the US does the same in other conflicts.




Its ok when we do it!

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: TritonTaranis

Some ignore the violent occupations of the USSR

As Hillary would say What differences does that make?


How is that any different from what the super state Euporean Union with the US are now trying to do with what the USSR did in the cold war?

USSR and Eastern Europe only happened because of WW2.

Um, it's voluntary?

Not forced at the end of a gun?

a reply to: TritonTaranis

OR The Communist Cultural Revolution?

You forget the color revolutions that were sponsored by the US which the US support nationalist movements which killed thousands more in South America.