If u accept reincarnation is true, what happens to souls who die from a nuclear blast / bomb?

Very interesting question about dying from a nuclear bomb. I don't know but it's food for thought.

Some say, we all chose to be here at this time. I guess that idea gives me strength. Sometimes I yell at God, I did not choose this!

a reply to: dontneedaname

Carnations... again... ?

If you mean by soul an intermediate being?

Then they will got through what anyone else would however some are quick to learn some are intermediate in learning and some are slow to learn.

Some grasp right away that they died, some wholly ignorant that they have... of course what to do? Some would say those wholly ignorant that they have should be left alone until they figure it out on their own however greed in other beings try to possess that person when that being realizes they are a slave? Anger arises having been kept ignorant or delusional that reality was well reality.

Three marks that you exist... some people say pinch yourself; well that's an illusory body of dreaming. Is the impermanence? Things arise and pass your hair gets longer you see other things dead? That sort of thing. Then there is the not-self as another mark of existence... it is just as deep as impermanence is I don't mean a rote grasping of the concept, I mean seeing it and it's entire workings in reality and how it affects all else when oneself is not the cause... air pressure is a fine example due to hot and cold expanding gases cans and containers will "breathe". Then of course is there suffering present as the third an final mark of existence.

Religion, politics, pornghrapy, the same language, among some other things; are all sort of ghost or being traps... like a routing system what people are attached to living or diseased knowing or not knowing? The will congregate to it. Transmigration is that concept... where the mind is adrift floating along some people have bodies when that occurs and some people do not. To some they sort of appear as various lights or shadows, sometimes various smokes white or black.

Re-incarnation is not really the same thing as transmigration; some beings are stuck in transmigration for extremely long times some purposefully some not or ignorant to that is what is occuring. Many people denying the possibility of anything like reincarnation without exploring it has done themselves a disservice. At some point the hold self and other has over them will break and they will gladly be alone and watch the arising and passing of many beings or those transmigrating.

What is painful for very experienced meditators is when a being is carrying something like a sword and starts passing through your form... some meditators have no idea why they are sitting there in so much pain; the elements passing on through of various sizes and densities of these thought forms or people moving all the hell around not really knowing or ignorant of where they are at. The concept of "oneness" is delusion and a very persistent one so beware of that. Experienced meditators also know that such a thing is occurring every instant noticeable all around you and others on all levels of being in hells and in heavens and in other realms.

The idea that you aren't you... the absolute self or personality remains, but like amnesia it can be difficult to recover oneself out of that without strenuous effort and ardent practice.

Belief means absolutely nothing to someone that knows beyond doubt. It's as empty as permanence when someone knows impermanence never needed an "opposite".

The shadow picture; I saw the autobiography anime about the person that took it. Very powerful and very moving story; to think some people are still proud of that thing like it was a big accomplishment. It made Einstein very angry that; that is what some people used his principles of physics for. Instead of bettering human kind... anyone think that; that was for the betterment of mankind is delusional and hateful.

Of course, all of those innocent in heavens and those people that wanted such a thing? Imagine being stuck to a hot iron ball sort of like the sun but stuck on it like not being able to get off of it like a magnet and some parts of you are consumed at various rates... yes even supporting the very idea of such a thing will usher you to that hell for a certain amount of time, not as long as those who may have laughed at it profited at it and still want to use them.

Well, I suppose that's enough of that... for people that like to OBE etc try to direct your mind to a place called copper mountain or even the Taj Mahal they are hells I can assure you, do some penance really spend some time there burning off thousands of life times of kamma.

Anyways moving beyond the rote concept is where reality is

originally posted by: seedofchucky
a reply to: dontneedaname

REINCARNATION is useless if you have no memory of past life.

If you have new memories you are a new person .

Same thing with clones. If we make a clone of you but can't transfer your memories. You aren't you.

Everyone is living out residual past life memories....you just don't often recollect it consciously. You have to calm your mind / body down A LOT to identify your own past. But that's another story for another decade.

At this point, I suspect there are few to no NEW souls.

Just look at a map. What places in the world look interesting to you, which places do you not. Potential clue about your past lives?

Show 100 kids a picture of the Egyptian Pyramids. What % will say COOL, MOM/DAD. What % will shrug their shoulders. None of the families are Egyptian or Middle Eastern nor any prior interest. WHY would some kids react one way or another? Substitute Egyptian Pyramid for Colosseum or any identifiable landmark / landscape.

What kinds (Look / ethnicity ) of women/men (looks) are you attracted to?

What language did you prefer to learn in school - French or Spanish or German? Or none? Or would you choose an Asian language (If available)

What landscapes do you prefer? While you may use a present day preference, the emotional interest is much deeper.

What are you naturally better at?

What about musical prodigies?

Ghost Inside My Child is the best TV series to gain insight into how your present day personality is related to your past. Only the deeply curious and inquisitive will discover their own past identities.

Jesus said - life after death = reincarnation.

Jesus in India

www.hoopladigital.com...

More in common between Christianity & Buddhism...

BBC Did Jesus Die?

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: AntiDoppleganger
I've heard from somewhere, I believe C2C, that someone remarked on souls having to be restored to put back together after something like that. I wish I remembered the guest or the episode.

It could be so much woo, but it may offer you something.

I think that's the episode that discussed a moon base that was a receptacle for Earth souls.

An episode of Ancient Aliens? Or a separate doc on the Moon being an artificial satellite?

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: dontneedaname

So..is there ANY KIND OF DEATH you cannot be reincarnated from?

No. Just a Christians believe the souls lost at Hiroshima and Nagasaki go to either Heaven or Hell, reincarnationists believe those souls can reincarnate.

well..not all who accept reincarnation have the same viewpoint. Just like denominations of christianity, islam, etc...

Multiple organized buddhist religions....

and then those like me who don't have any religion, but accept RC as true for everyone.

But some think you can become an animal, I say that is preposterous and makes no sense.

So..this is why I ask the question...not just KIND OF DEATH, but LOCATION OF DEATH, now that I think about it.

If you were to die while spelunking alone - would your soul drift out of the cave automatically to a central repository / ship / whatever...or might it get stuck in a deep cave?

What if you died in the deep deep ocean? If a soul is just energy, would it just pass through any physical medium automatically?

a reply to: dontneedaname

well..not all who accept reincarnation have the same viewpoint.

Do you know of any who believes an atom-bomb can annihilate a soul so that it can't ever incarnate again?

If you were to die while spelunking alone - would your soul drift out of the cave automatically to a central repository / ship / whatever...or might it get stuck in a deep cave?

Or believe it is cursed to be trapped in a bottle for 10,000 years, only to serve the person who opens it by being forced to grant them magical wishes?

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: dontneedaname

well..not all who accept reincarnation have the same viewpoint.

Do you know of any who believes an atom-bomb can annihilate a soul so that it can't ever incarnate again?

If you were to die while spelunking alone - would your soul drift out of the cave automatically to a central repository / ship / whatever...or might it get stuck in a deep cave?

Or believe it is cursed to be trapped in a bottle for 10,000 years, only to serve the person who opens it by being forced to grant them magical wishes?

I've never asked the question or searched for it, so I'm asking now.

As for your latter comment, it sounds like you are mocking reincarnation....

Adherents to modern dominant Christianity (nevermind everyone else) are in for a huge surprise by early 2030s...but world will be greatly humbled by then. Need mass death....too much arrogance and not enough questioning, investigating.

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a reply to: dontneedaname

As for your latter comment, it sounds like you are mocking reincarnation....

No, I am a "reincarnationist". I believe in reincarnation. I was addressing your proposal that souls can get lost in the deep, should they die there. You suggest that the location of one's death can confuse a soul, I suggest that dogma can confuse and trap one's ability to rise above their physical death and find peace or reincarnate.

I used a genii trapped in a bottle as a mythical example of that. It is obviously an ancient metaphor of exactly that, a soul trapped in dogma.

I believe that some of us are trapped in our own beliefs, become trapped in our own "Hell", until we realize we are not...until we free ourselves from dogma and remember the way home.

a reply to: dontneedaname

Always thought when we die,we upload our experiences and memories to the greater soul and we come back with a blank slate

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: dontneedaname

As for your latter comment, it sounds like you are mocking reincarnation....

No, I am a "reincarnationist". I believe in reincarnation. I was addressing your proposal that souls can get lost in the deep, should they die there. You suggest that the location of one's death can confuse a soul, I suggest that dogma can confuse and trap one's ability to rise above their physical death and find peace or reincarnate.

I used a genii trapped in a bottle as a mythical example of that. It is obviously an ancient metaphor of exactly that, a soul trapped in dogma.

I believe that some of us are trapped in our own beliefs, become trapped in our own "Hell", until we realize we are not...until we free ourselves from dogma and remember the way home.

Fair enough.

I'm not coming from any old dogma per se...just asking a question. I don't expect any firm answers, but just suggestions / hints as some have offered.

I'm just trying to find out if there are any limits to a soul's survival. A soul is just energy, it can travel through physical mediums...but is there a limit? The only people who would know are our creators or someone who rxd direct knowledge about this.

I've yet to see any reincarnation stories about a soul surviving an atomic blast. Relatively speaking there wouldn't be many a few hundred thousand at most out of 8 billion souls.....but lo and behold I just did a search and found this:

reincarnationforum.com...

Maybe there are others with more determined searches. Maybe searches in Japanese.


----on a related note:

It's re-in-CAR- NATION

CAR = KARma / CARne (flesh)

NATION = rooted in word birth / to be born. What NATION you are reborn into is determined by your past KARma. So to stop cycle must eliminate all karma.



Duckduckgo - hiroshima nuclear bomb shadow

duckduckgo.com...

I don't how if any of those are legit, but I did take a photo of a painting while I was in Hiroshima museum many moons ago. I have the image, I'll have to dig it out.

a reply to: Rich Z

Ive often wondered if there is a linear progression of time in the dimension our souls go to in between incarnations in this place. If time is the 4th dimension, then it would be accessible in all directions from the 5th. Also, all of 3 dimensional space. So perhaps reincarnating to any time and anyplace in this universe is possible.

a reply to: dontneedaname



Dead Souls

Artistic licence often possesses some intuitive insights into the pondering upon such subjects. Go with the drawl.




(in addendum)

amen

a reply to: dontneedaname

The soul itself may not be the actual subject of electromagnetic disruption but other mechanics of the psycho-spiritual mechanism may be.

"The occultist finds that physical matter exists in seven grades or orders of density, viz. :
Atomic, Subatomic, Super-Etheric, Etheric, Gaseous, Liquid and Solid.

Particles of all these grades enter into the composition of the physical vehicle. The latter, however, has two well-marked divisions, viz., the dense body, composed of solids, liquids and gases, and the Etheric Body, or Double, as it is frequently called, consisting of the four finer grades of physical matter.
It will be our purpose in these chapters to study this Etheric Double; its nature, appearance, functions, its relationships to the other vehicles, its connection with Prâna, or Vitality, its birth, growth and decay,...."

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I would say that all serious investigation into this question can proceed within this great text by A.E. Powell.

a reply to: dontneedaname

I don't understand the question.

Death is death.

How can the manner of death have any bearing on what follows (assuming anything does follow)?

originally posted by: CJCrawley
a reply to: dontneedaname

I don't understand the question.

Death is death.

How can the manner of death have any bearing on what follows (assuming anything does follow)?

Watch A&E TV Series - GHOST INSIDE MY CHILD...an episode or two. Free....also episodes on Dailymotion.

Know DIE self.

a reply to: dontneedaname

The Gautama Buddha saw karma/kamma as a wheel. That your suffering or happiness depended on how you turned it with intention... meditation is a way to let go of that wheel of intention.

So to stop cycle must eliminate all karma.

What are called "the precepts" are what reverses the wheel or exhausts vast amounts of past karma/kamma.

The combination of meditation and precepts; is what Buddhism is... just like anything else? The people in it either muddy the waters or see they were standing walking around in it; muddying the waters, get out of the water letting it settle and become clear. What's interesting is the realization "I've been muddying the waters!" Then they're scared to move... it's ok standing in the water isn't very beneficial for your life so go on and get out of it. But that moment realizing them being in it wasn't beneficial for everyone else that has to drink from it? Will stay with them.

There's actually a "dhamma protector" that dares people to take a step in that moment; having once been stuck in it themself for who knows how long. Sort of like "namaste" drives the children away from you, when visiting India or you'll be surrounded by hoards of them everywhere you go. Sort of the same way Bugger off works in Britain & Don't talk to strangers is what Americans learn.

Personally, I believe radiation can affect our DNA at a level beyond the physical.

Meaning our spirit itself, or our connection to spirit can be severed by traumatic radiation exposure.

Like all wounds, it can heal over time with proper care from expert healers.

a reply to: QwertyMyself

I believe similarly with the experimental Mrna vaccines. I remember a guru from India commenting that the reason more advanced souls than currently exist do not appear in this world is because there are few suitable wombs to accomodate them.

Imagine what sort of wombs will be available after the global vaxxing agenda is complete. To reincarnate in a suitable womb will necessitate soul transmigration into the tribes of the amazon. Tibet would have been great too until C.C.P invaded there. Just look out for a huge green patch covered in smoke. Head for the green patch!