Username Weise here at ATS was Minn. Shooter Killer, page 9

Originally posted by dev_add

Thanx, But my real question was is ATS going to volunteerly hand it over?

I would be very surprised if the FBI haven't already checked out his computer and started combing the sites he visited - including ATS. It's not as if we are unknown to various government agencies after all.

There is a thread in RATS which appears to be a test by the DIA, the result being that ...

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
The Special Agent had nothing but praise for ATS ...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I agree that the info should be handed over voluntarily - if nothing else, the threads could give the relevant people possible insight to his frame of mind.

Wow...this is amazing...any one of us can turn out to be a murderer...and Weise helped prove that...

I know I'm 13, and most people usually brush off my opinion but PLEASE hear me out on this.

I say all ATS members should promise, no matter what, that if we EVER think of doing something like this then we come STRAIGHT to ATS. People I would recommend talking to are: Asala, Relentless, and Daystar. They are the people who helped me out with my problems. I say we all help each other out, my How Are You thread (www.belowtopsecret.com...) can probably help us all out. If you are depressed like this come STRAIGHT to us. I know we aren't as good as a professional but most of the time it helps when a friend is there for you.

ATS is here for you all, and don't forget that.

I feel horribly sorry for the family and friends of the victems, when Glastonbury had people die in a car crash it was REALLY hard on my cousins and her friend Tracy (who had a crush on one of the boys who died) and in short, we all know how it feels to lose a loved one.

(if I knew any Shinto prayers I would post one, but I just joined the religion and dont know many)

Weise's avatar is from the anime "Jin-Roh": Link

I found a very interesting post by Weise (it might have already been posted, oh well):

That is just messed... My dad committed suicide, recently, a girl everyone knew at our school committed suicide.

Why do I care?

I believe in no religion, flame me, call me whatever you want as you won't/can't convert me and won't change me in anyway.

I think it takes alot of courage to accept death, if you think that you go to Hell or whatever God-forsaken pit after this life for ending your own personal suffering then you're just... Nevermind.

I think most people who say this type of thing have never dealt with people who HAVE faced the kind of pain that makes you phsyically sick at times, makes you so depressed you can't function, makes you so sad and overwhelmed with grief that eating a bullet or sticking your head in a noose seem's welcoming.

If you think you're better than those who take their own lives; you're not. If you think you're stronger than those who have taken their own lives; your not.

It takes courage to turn the gun on your ownself, takes courage to face death. Knowing you're going to die and actually following through takes heart, I don't care who you are.

This is my opinion, I do not claim to know all the answers or claim to be better than anyone. I just know my own opinion... Flame me all you want, if it makes you feel better to belittle someone you've never met than by all means go ahead. I don't get pissed over text.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

This post was definitely a foreshadowing of events that were to come - at least that's how I view it. And there are many people on ATS who I would put under my radar... unfortunately. I have read Weise's posts before, and I can definitely say I saw signs, but I didn't do what I should have - I should have extended my hand. I suppose that is kind of hard to do on the net though, anyone can be anyone. I wish it was easy to tell who is legit, and who is not.

Oh well, I can't worry about the past, I can only look forward to the future.

If feel compelled to do so, you can sign this guestbook set up by a Minnesota New agency for the family and survivors of the Red Lake Tragedy

www.legacy.com...

Anyone who is interested may read this msn article while it is still up about him. Listed below are pieces I have constructed for you to read from the msn passage. To read the full story click this link while it last : www.msnbc.msn.com... I haven't edited anything, just copied what I found interesting- but sick

"Weise was also found by the St. Paul Pioneer Press newspaper to have posted several comments last year on an online forum frequented by neo-Nazis. He used the pen names Todesengel, German for "angel of death," and "NativeNazi." <--- (Another website besides ATS?)

"I guess I've always carried a natural admiration for Hitler and his ideals, and his courage to take on larger nations," Weise wrote in one session.


"He shared the Nazi goal of racial purity, saying that when he talked in school about that for his own Chippewa tribe, "I get the same old argument which seems to be so common around here. 'We need to mix all the races, to combine all the strengths.'"

"They (teachers) don't openly say that racial purity is wrong," he added, "yet when you speak your mind on the subject you get 'silenced' real quick by the teachers and likeminded school officials."

"When I was growing up, I was taught (like others) that Nazi's were evil and that Hitler was a very evil man," he said in another posting. "Of course, not for a second did I believe this. ... They truly were doing it for the better."

"The FBI's Tabman said the bureau was investigating the reports of Weise's racial postings, but that it had not yet confirmed they were his."

"Terror in the classroom
Student Ashley Morrison said she heard shots, then saw the gunman’s face peering though a door window of a classroom where she was hiding with other students.

With Weise banging on the door, she dialed her mother on her cell phone. “’Mom, he’s trying to get in here and I’m scared,”’ Morrison told her mother.

After banging, the shooter walked away and she heard more shots.

“I can’t even count how many gunshots you heard, there was over 20 ... there were people screaming, and they made us get behind the desk,” she said.

Hegstrom said her classmates pleaded with Weise to stop shooting.

“You could hear a girl saying, 'No, Jeff, quit, quit. Leave me alone. What are you doing?” she told The Pioneer of Bemidji.

Hegstrom described Weise grinning and waving at a student his gun was pointed at, then swiveling to shoot someone else. “I looked him in the eye and ran in the room, and that’s when I hid,” she said.

Students and a teacher, Diane Schwanz, said the gunman tried to break down a door to get into her classroom. “I just got on the floor and called the cops,” Schwanz told the Pioneer. “I was still just half-believing it.”

All of the dead students were found in one room.

Martha Thunder’s 15-year-old son, Cody, was being treated for a gunshot wound to the hip.

“He heard gunshots and the teacher said 'No, that’s the janitor’s doing something,’ and the next thing he knew, the kid walked in there and pointed the gun right at him,” Thunder said, standing outside the hospital in Bemidji."

How offend do you come in contact with a deranged killer masquerading in society waiting to reveal and unlash his sins a pond the world? Not many… at least for me. This is a very sad incident indeed. I feel bad for him, he seemed to be pretty intelligent, I am just wondering if he was the same person I used to chat with over msn, because this person who I used to chat with on msn was mentally disturbed, and loved the thought of killing people, and he liked Hitler, he told me he admired Hitler, and what he did for the world. This man was a pyschopathic genius. Before He left about Sunday or so he told me to delete him from MSN, because he wouldn't ever come back, then he told me he might.. I just hope he isn't the same person off my msn list. This can definitely dilute any happiness you may have at the moment.
-Striker


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