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reply posted on 26-3-2005 @ 06:55 PM by dh
I can't get to the collected thoughts of Reise at the moment on Page 10 of the thread
Still - the very first post he made here reveals a mind control gun scenario

www.abovetopsecret.com...
Dec 21, 2003 04:13
Hello all, I'm new here. I'm not exactly sure what this post is about but hopefully by the end of it what it's about will be clear .

Lately I've been having some really strange dream's, they seem very realistic and filled with colour and sound's, they really are more realistic than dream's from like last month, but a few night's ago I had this dream where I saw this very evil, very creepy canine's face coming toward's me, and I heard someone say "Shoot!," either way everything went black and I could feel my whole body jerking and shaking, and while this was happening I could hear very loud and very distinct gunshot's, mostly machine gun fire... I found it very weird and woke up immediately after feeling a little disoriented...

I don't know what's up, but anyone have any idea why this kind of stuff is just happening now?... I hope I posted this in the right forum...

The subconscious instruction is right there
Just an upping of the Prozac dose to trigger the required action


reply posted on 27-3-2005 @ 12:07 PM by twitchy
Apprently he was 'teased alot'. People really can create monsters.
www.npr.org...
And another little tidbit you probably won't see get much mention...

www.sfgate.com.../c/a/2005/03/24/MNG7UBU2GT1.DTL&feed=rss.news

He was taking the antidepressant Prozac...


Anti-depressants are amine related compunds which are poorly understood. Playing around with the neuro-chemicals that literally comprise your consciousness is a ridculous risk given the lack of resarch in this area.
Another little creepy tidbit from the news headlins search on google...

FBI Probes Weise's Involvement on Racist Site

Yeah i know that isn't talking about ATS but you can bet there will be some new traffic on ATS.

[edit on 27-3-2005 by twitchy]


reply posted on 27-3-2005 @ 12:35 PM by Woodside
Let me first say that, yes, I too am saddended and shocked by this tradgady. Now...
Originally posted by dh
I can't get to the collected thoughts of Reise at the moment on Page 10 of the thread
Still - the very first post he made here reveals a mind control gun scenario

www.abovetopsecret.com...
Dec 21, 2003 04:13
Hello all, I'm new here. I'm not exactly sure what this post is about but hopefully by the end of it what it's about will be clear .

Lately I've been having some really strange dream's, they seem very realistic and filled with colour and sound's, they really are more realistic than dream's from like last month, but a few night's ago I had this dream where I saw this very evil, very creepy canine's face coming toward's me, and I heard someone say "Shoot!," either way everything went black and I could feel my whole body jerking and shaking, and while this was happening I could hear very loud and very distinct gunshot's, mostly machine gun fire... I found it very weird and woke up immediately after feeling a little disoriented...

I don't know what's up, but anyone have any idea why this kind of stuff is just happening now?... I hope I posted this in the right forum...

The subconscious instruction is right there
Just an upping of the Prozac dose to trigger the required action


I don't know how anyone can say that this description foreshadowed anything. He describes seeing ONE dog, not mutiple dogs. He describes machine gun fire, where his rampage took place using a handgun. But most importantly, this took place almost a year and a half ago, not a week before the shootings!

Interpretation after the fact can be very misleading. I mean, this kid was sick, and he knew it. Perhaps the evil dog represented his illness, and he was trying to kill the dog just like he was trying to overcome his illness in real life. The voice could have been anybody who was trying to help him.

Or maybe it was just a dream. A crazy dream like we've all had at some point in our lives.

He did what he did because he was not healthy. Anyone who is capable of hurting themselves is capable of hurting anybody (for those of you who missed it, he had attempted suicide in the past).

This was not a copycat thing, the music didn't make him do anything, the dog didn't make him do anything, and his dreams didn't make him do anything. And if they did have an influence on his decision, it is even more reason to believe he was a sick child.

Everyday, millions of kids watch TV, go on the internet, listen to music. Everynight, millions of kids go to bed and have dreams. The next day, those same kids go to school, and how many go on shooting sprees?

My point is this. This kid was labeled while he was alive for the way he looked and acted. Sure, he did do something later down the road, but there are thousands of other kids similar to him that are not going to shoot up a school. We are not going to prevent things like this from happening just like we can't stop it from raining. People sometimes snap and do crazy things.

Just be glad for everything you and your family have and do your best to ensure a positive, safe and healthy future.


reply posted on 27-3-2005 @ 03:27 PM by Vowles
My friend had him added on his MSN list! It has freaked him right out.

members.msn.com...

This is his msn profile, Quiet disturbing and a link to his blog which is in the same mannor.


reply posted on 27-3-2005 @ 03:50 PM by MemoryShock
Originally posted by Woodside
I don't know how anyone can say that this description foreshadowed anything. He describes seeing ONE dog, not mutiple dogs. He describes machine gun fire, where his rampage took place using a handgun. But most importantly, this took place almost a year and a half ago, not a week before the shootings!


Consider that this dream was vivid enough and disturbed him enough to post it......what about other things he experienced but didn't post?

Mind control is a very in-depth process.....it's not as simple as hypnotizing someone and saying you're in charge. It's a bit more involved than that. The subject has to go through alot.....profiling, introduction to hypnosis, basic establishory inductions and must be anti-socially inclined enough so as to detract attention. Dream manipulation is related to hypnosis in principle, but it isn't exactly the same. After going through preliminaries, though, all the established personality has to do is have access to the sleeping environment and 'talk.' The subject listens and incorporatews this into dream reality.

One dog, many dogs.....doesn't matter to the subconscious. They both occupy the same association and in this case, it would appear that the association is that of intimidation...
Originally posted by Wiese
...saw this very evil, very creepy canine's face coming toward's me,..


Look at the way Wiese described it.....evil and coming at him....something that would be fearful...the command to shoot would be the alleviation of that fear/anxiety.

I think it is very possible he was a mind control op......the scary part would be that there are people who plan this stuff out.......but that's just MIB stuff, now isn't it?
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