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Topic started on 17-3-2005 @ 08:55 PM by 00PS
While the Peoples Daily has stated China and Russia will hold joint military exercises in 2004. In the past the Taipei Times responded that it was pure propaganda and that it would only be a series of discussions on how to improve cooperation on terrorism. The situation has become more co mplex as China has called for their joint exercises to focus on the Taiwan Crisis. Originally planned to take place in the Xinjiang-Uigur autonomous region of Northwestern China, it is now been planned to be conducted off the Yellow Sea coast in China's ZheJiang province across from Taiwan.




www.drudgereport.com
China Daily
China and Russia will jointly hold a first-ever military exercise next year, visiting Russian Defence Minister Sergei Ivanov said Monday.

FLASHBACK: Taipei Times 7-11-02
The military yesterday denied media reports that China and Russia are to launch a joint military exercise in Central Asia in August, saying the two countries are just going to hold talks on enhancing anti-terror cooperation in the region.

Drudge 3-17-05
MOSCOW, March 17. (RIA Novosti)-Yesterday, Chief of the Russian General Staff Yury Baluyevsky left for China to settle a scandal over the first Russian-Chinese military exercise, Commonwealth-2005, which is due to be held this fall off the Yellow Sea coast, writes Kommersant.



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It is a sticky situation for the Russians. They cannot allow the Chinese to lose face so they will have to conduct the exercises where the Chinese say. Of course the Russians would like the Chinese to focus on XingJiang as it is in the Central Asian region and a incubator of terrorist ideology and phsyical training.

China has sneakily shifted to the ZheJiang province and will most likely succeed in ensnaring Russia to show it's military support against the Island's move for independance. The army will not sit idle and watch has become the tone of the PRC lately.

No doubt Japan should feel nervous and we should expect strong Rhetoric from the US if Putin follows through with his already made committment to the Peoples Republic of China.

Related News Links:
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www.taipeitimes.com
www.drudgereport.com


reply posted on 18-3-2005 @ 01:16 AM by Muaddib
I wonder why so few people have voted for this story. Anyways, here are some other stories that corroborate this one, and btw...I am not the member who started this thread, neither do i know who did...

Quietly, with almost no notice taken in the U.S. media, Russia and China have just stepped up their military cooperation to a level not seen in half a century since the end of the Korean War.
The two countries have quietly agreed to hold their most ambitious joint military exercises in modern times this fall. Interfax news agency reported late last month that the exercises would involve what it described as "Russian strategic aviation", a description that appeared to be a reference to the use of Russia's super-huge Antonov military transport planes, to rapidly deploy forces on Chinese territory.


Excerpted from.
www.spacedaily.com...

CHINA TRYING TO USE RUSSIAN ARMY FOR ITS OWN PURPOSES
RIA Novosti

MOSCOW, March 17. (RIA Novosti)-Yesterday, Chief of the Russian General Staff Yury Baluyevsky left for China to settle a scandal over the first Russian-Chinese military exercise, Commonwealth-2005, which is due to be held this fall off the Yellow Sea coast, writes Kommersant.

The initial plans were to practice operational teamwork in combating terrorism during the exercise. However, Beijing, skillfully changing the format of the exercise, has tried to re-orient the two countries' armies to practicing an invasion of Taiwan.

The choice of where the exercise will take place became a stumbling block. The Russian military selected the Xinjiang-Uigur autonomous region, basing their choice on the area's problematic nature due to Uigur separatists and its proximity to Central Asia, which has become an arena in the fight against international terrorism. However, Beijing flatly rejected the proposal. Instead, it suggested the Zhejiang province near Taiwan.

A joint exercise in this area would look too provocative and trigger a strong reaction not only from Taiwan but also America and Japan, which recently included the island in the zone of their common strategic interests.


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www.globalsecurity.org...

Humm, communism is dead right? I mean, that's why two of the major communist countries, i mean former communist countries... are holding such exercises together.....

I do remember about almost a year ago or so some members were saying that Russia and China would never do something like this.....


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reply posted on 18-3-2005 @ 06:52 AM by Muaddib
Originally posted by rapier28
I thought the communists in Russia hate Putin, because the communist's can't win the election.

And Mauddib, Russia is not communist, Putin is not a communist, the communist party of Russia do not like Putin at all.



Putin is going back to the old days before perestroika....anyways, some of you already know that i believe it was a sham, that the collapse of the former soviet union was actually staged....... Anyways, of what we can be certain is that Putin more and more is getting tougher on democracy, shuting down tv shows that speak badly of the government in Russia, going after rich entepreneurs and merging former private firms with the government firms, etc, etc. I do believe that Russia is going back to the old days, as it was supposed to do. And i am not the only one who thinks Putin is bringing Russia closer and closer towards what it used to be.


Gorbachev warns Putin of possible unrest
(Agencies)
Updated: 2005-03-10 08:32

Former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev, marking the 20th anniversary of his rise to power, warned Wednesday that Vladimir Putin could face serious unrest if he pursues painful economic policies and urged the Russian president to fire Cabinet members over unpopular benefit reforms.

Gorbachev also said Putin should beware of people in his entourage who believe the government can suppress public anger by cracking down on democracy and basic freedoms.

Speaking at a presentation of an opinion poll on attitudes to the sweeping reforms he launched after taking helm as the Soviet leader 20 years ago this week, Gorbachev said the point of his program of perestroika, or restructuring, was "more democracy, more socialism."

"And now I sense an odor that says that soon in our government ... there will appear slogans such as less democracy, fewer social programs," he said.


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www.chinadaily.com.cn...







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reply posted on 18-3-2005 @ 07:23 AM by esdad71
www.abovetopsecret.com...'

I posted this yesterday. There are talks with lifting sanctions against China on ban of arms sale, the energy deals between the 2 countries, oil deals, they have become the Most ultimate co-dependants in the world. If China moves, Russia kind of has to step up.

I mean, what if this exercise suddenly was not? What would the US reaction be? Sub strikes? Air War? I mean, you are talking sever civilian casualty probobility on that island, right?

What if they wait till we go into Iran? Both countires have interests in Iran, and Syria. Amazing, so why are they not included in the Axis of evil? sorry for the rant
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