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Covid 19 Follow the Law - Not the recommendations

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posted on Oct, 29 2020 @ 05:37 PM
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Ill admit im confused.
I dont understand why we need protests and riots.
I was under the impression that we can do what we want unless it is expressly prohibited by a law.
The legislation as it stands is incredibly vague.
There is no timeline as to when restrictions start/end.
The majority of focus is on social gatherings.

There is no legal specification on what constitutes retail/essential business.

There is zero reference to wearing a mask (with the exception of public transport).

Since when are we governed by "recommendations" ?

Im not sure on a world wide perspective, but from only a Uk/Ireland perspective...

Boris suggests that restrictions will be in place until Spring 2021.
www.mirror.co.uk...

Scotland has brought in a 5 level approach with a level Zero which still restricts socialising, hospitality and travel.... LEVEL ZERO!!!???!?!
Where do you go from there? minus 1? - how do you get any normality?
www.gov.scot...

England Primary Legislation:
Coronavirus Act 2020 (c. 7)

Ireland:
Emergency Measures in the Public Interest (Covid-19) Act 2020
Health Act 1947 (Section 31A - Temporary Restrictions) (COVID-19) (No. 8)

Northern Ireland:
Public Health Act (Northern Ireland) 1967 (c. 36)
The Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (No. 2) Regulations (Northern Ireland) 2020 (S.R. 2020/150)

None of the above references retail open/closing, timelines, or masks (beyond public transport).

we're governed by a system of prohibitory laws not permissive laws, that is, in a free society you can do whatever you want unless it is prohibited by law; in other words, i could murder 120 people a week unless it was against a proscribed law.

To be fair, full disclosure, I like to watch the snake eat its own tail, and look forward to the global implosion, im just getting headaches with all the eye-rolling of "after this short lock down we'll be in a better place..." bullsh*



posted on Oct, 29 2020 @ 06:00 PM
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They got people to obey out of fear. The governments and media did an amazing job of blowing this up and instilling fear in almost everyone on the planet. Obey or you will die from the virus.

That's how.



posted on Oct, 29 2020 @ 06:15 PM
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100% agree.
There is Zero other way you could this result on a global scale.
Racial tension? - There are cooler heads on both sides.
Economic collapse? 2008 showed that failed.
even bloods/crips united when they saw the endgame.
A global pandemic, shifting the blame between the holy trinity of politicians, economists, and scientists, with a side order of conspiracy theory to pit friend against friend, well that just grabs everyone!

Id say i fear for the lotta ye (not fear...more, popcorn munch), if i didnt already say it numerous times since 9/11, 2008, but im sure this will pitter out also, u cant even get a zombie apocalypse right!

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posted on Oct, 29 2020 @ 06:28 PM
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a reply to: Midnite247

Divide the people and conquer. But who is going to conquer us I do not completely understand even though I know it is happening.



posted on Oct, 29 2020 @ 06:33 PM
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a reply to: Midnite247


Yeah , Alex Jones Is Crazy , Crazy Sane . His Reports are Spot On , His Sources are Out there for Anyone to see. You Might Disagree with his Opinions of News , which I do Frequently , but you Cannot Deny he is Telling People Truths if you Fact Check him .


Take Bill Gates as an Example , the Man is Telling the World of his Evil Plans for Humanity , but People either Disbelieve them or just Think it is a Joke . It Is Not , Bill Gates is a Serious Demented Billionaire...........Listen to Him ..........

tv.infowars.com...

edit on 29-10-2020 by Zanti Misfit because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 29 2020 @ 06:47 PM
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If you break into my house ill punch you in the face. (were not allowed guns here)
If you say i cant go into my friends house ill disagree with that, and the public will agree with me.
If you say going into my friends house will put the public at risk the public will call me the c*nt
sheep to the slaughter/
Who is making these decisions? - When the public buy in the govmt are quick to own it, when theres any push back the govment blame the "science advice".
There are 1000 more cases ... well guess what? there are 1000s more tests

There only one way out of this. Public refusal to acquiesce to arbitrary conditions influenced on the roll of a dice.

Masks - "Its for your benefit, its for my benefit, their is no benefit"
I have never worn a mask - never will - never been stopped.

Id love to see more do the same and grow some sort of return to humanity, and critical thinking, but at the end of the day i dont give a fk. If you want to wear a face cover because it was "suggested" you do it, you do you. Ima do me.

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posted on Oct, 29 2020 @ 07:39 PM
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a reply to: Midnite247




The legislation as it stands is incredibly vague. There is no timeline as to when restrictions start/end. The majority of focus is on social gatherings.


I don’t know about Scotland, but in the USA it doesn’t matter if it’s law. They’ve made it ‘temporary’ laws — but we all know that’s BS.

For example, restaurant and bar owners will lose their license at the drop of a hat. Just for breaking one tiny rule. It depends if the health official likes you or not. Yes, that’s the world we now live in.

I’d love to say eff it all. Unfortunately, they will get you.



posted on Oct, 29 2020 @ 08:08 PM
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My point exactly!!!!
How fk arbitrary is that!!??
If i go into a shop it depends if the shopkeeper is an assole or not as to whether im getting that pint o milk without a mask (100% here im never asked! but im sure other places are)
I cant live in a world that is governed by somebodys mood
Ill play along now where were in that median stage, but and im not really doing anything different (i shop normally, i dont wear a mask) , but if it gets worse (such as being forced to wear a mask on the street) thats a new level of s# i will have to publically dispute.
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posted on Oct, 29 2020 @ 09:32 PM
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originally posted by: Midnite247
If you break into my house ill punch you in the face. (were not allowed guns here)
If you say i cant go into my friends house ill disagree with that, and the public will agree with me.
If you say going into my friends house will put the public at risk the public will call me the c*nt
sheep to the slaughter/
Who is making these decisions? - When the public buy in the govmt are quick to own it, when theres any push back the govment blame the "science advice".
There are 1000 more cases ... well guess what? there are 1000s more tests

There only one way out of this. Public refusal to acquiesce to arbitrary conditions influenced on the roll of a dice.

Masks - "Its for your benefit, its for my benefit, their is no benefit"
I have never worn a mask - never will - never been stopped.

Id love to see more do the same and grow some sort of return to humanity, and critical thinking, but at the end of the day i dont give a fk. If you want to wear a face cover because it was "suggested" you do it, you do you. Ima do me.

a reply to: rickymouse

There were two workers at the local store waiting for someone to come in one day last week, they probably told him he had to leave so guarded the door so he would not return. I am six one and a half and a big guy, these guys were big worker, one was the butcher I think. Even when I worked construction I would never mess with a guy with arms like his, he must have worked out every night, probably six three, and two hundred sixty pounds and definitely not fat. I felt small on side of that one guy.

It is the law here, you have to wear masks if you go into a store, they could lose their ability to do business if a store does nothing. The local cops don't fool around either, I have seen them take down a person in half a minute. Not many blacks around here, whites are legal game for cops to slam their heads into a car or the floor. The person who would get charged here and get thrown in jail is the person who started trouble because they wanted in without a mask, if they politely leave and are civil, nobody cares...but start being a jerk and half the guys in the store would pile on top of that person because the person is a jerk. I'm sixty five, and if a guy was harrassing the girl working there because she said he needed a mask, I would grab the guy by the throat and he would be on the floor in ten seconds unable to even move with one hand.



posted on Oct, 30 2020 @ 07:46 AM
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It's getting worse here in Michigan:


Contact tracing requirements for particular gatherings.
Gatherings are prohibited at the following facilities unless the facility maintains accurate records, including date and time of entry, names of patrons, and contact information, to aid with contact tracing, and denies entry for a gathering to any visitor who does not provide, at a minimum, their name and phone number:

All businesses or operations that provide barbering, cosmetology services, body art services (including tattooing and body piercing), tanning services, massage services, or similar personal care services;

Recreational sports and exercise facilities, and entertainment facilities (except for outdoor, non-ticketed events), including arenas, cinemas, concert halls, performance venues, sporting venues, stadiums and theaters, as well as places of public amusement, such as amusement parks, arcades, and bingo halls;

All businesses or operations that provide in-home services, including cleaners, repair persons, painters, and the like must not permit their employees to gather with clients unless the business maintains accurate appointment records, including date and time of service, name of client, and contact information, to aid with contact tracing.

All dine-in food service establishments must maintain accurate records of the names and phone numbers of patrons who purchase food for consumption on the premises, and the date and time of entry.

Upon request, businesses, schools, and other facilities must provide names and phone numbers of individuals with possible COVID-19 exposure to MDHHS and local health departments to aid in contact tracing and case investigation efforts.


I've just about had enough of this bull#. I will NOT have my life recorded in any contact tracing database as long as I can help it and I will NOT give anyone my name and phone number for this purpose. This is not a pandemic anymore according to the data, yet TPTB are still holding it over our heads. I'm so sick of this.



posted on Oct, 30 2020 @ 02:22 PM
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People just need to realize that we now get their (so called elites, the ultra rich moneybags, their multinational acting corporations, their political puppets and their mass medias) new world order, called new normal this time. While most of the people are distracted, confused and nearly petrified by the (political and media) corona panic hype like the rabbit before the snake. Not able anymore to get clear thoughts and to look beyond their own noses.

Their plans for us are available for everybody in the internet:

Global Agenda
8 predictions for the world in 2030
World Economic Forum

The Great Reset

ID2020

With a little help of an at the same time happening exercise. What a "surprise" and "coincidence":
Event201

They just needed an excuse to unfold their new world order and hoped that their will be less riots, uprisings, revolts, rebellions if an evil, evil virus, "able "to wipe out the whole human race (but only in the wage slaves spare time), is the reason for all of this. And how many, 80 or 90% of the people worldwide really believe this even if they can look by themselves at the official numbers and compare the numbers of alleged covid deaths to the numbers of other deaths.

Here in Germany every day die around 2500 people, nobody cares or ever cared for them. Nobody came up with the stupid idea to ruin a whole nation because we had 25.000 flu deaths in 2018/19, nobody even noticed it. Why are they telling us now that the try to save every life and care for our health, especially those lifes and the health of people 80+ with severe health conditions (without corona) but at the expense of destroying whole nations, societies, peoples future they worked hard for? I mean, do they really think that these people 80+ will become 200 years if they are saved from covid now? Nobody did and does this because of pollution, because of road fatalities, especially in Germany because of hospital germs. Not because of tobacco or alcohol deaths. Not because of domestic accidents (falling from the ladder while cleaning a window for example), not because of masses of sugar and chemicals in our "food" which kills people (diabetes and cancer for example). All these deaths are way higher in numbers than alleged covid deaths (around 10.000 in Germany now, in nearly 8 months). In reality nobody cares for our lifes and health and never did, especially not politicians. Why are they acting so suddenly as if they would care for our lifes and health and only if it comes to corona/covid?

It´s simple. They are using corona/covid as excuse for our switch to their "new normal". The only questions is now(not really, imo): Was it just a "lucky coincidence" that covid entered the stage completely right at the time the world economy started to collapse (remember the NYSEs "circuit breaker" in march) again? Was it just a coincidence that the covid panic, hysteria and fear hype by MSM and politicians started right after the World Economic Forum Annual Meeting 2020 (from january 21.-24.) to pick up speed? Was it just a (for the "elites") lucky coincidence that "nature created" Covid when the plans for their great reset were ready to use in their drawers? Or does anybody really believe that they created this plan in a few weeks after covid "surprised them over night"?

I would like to believe this. But than i would have to believe in clairvoyants which work for the german state bavaria:

HG 2019/2020 Text applies from: 01/01/2020 Version: 05/24/2019
Art. 2a
Credit authorization to finance Chapter 13 19 - Corona pandemic special fund
(1) 1The State Ministry of Finance and Home Affairs is authorized to take out loans on the credit market of up to € 20,000,000,000 in the 2020 budget year to cover expenses for Chapter 13 19 (Corona Pandemic Special Fund) and the shortfall in revenue to be offset there. The credit authorization can be transferred if these credit funds have not been taken out by the end of the 2020 budget year and are still required for cover.
(2) From budget year 2024 onwards, 1/20 of the debts recorded in Chapter 13 19 (Corona Pandemic Special Fund) and not yet repaid by the end of budget year 2023 must be repaid annually.
(3) Article 2, paragraph 2, sentences 1 to 3 and paragraphs 3 and 4 apply accordingly.
Bayerische Staatskanzlei

“You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.” And even more you can not make me believe that clairvoyants work in/for the bavarian state.



posted on Nov, 29 2020 @ 05:37 AM
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My my. So it isn't a health concern, this mask. Its a visual act of compliance and if anything, a ritual. Tackling, slamming, assaulting people is ok. The social distancing aspect takes a break.



posted on Nov, 29 2020 @ 11:01 AM
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originally posted by: BiffTannen
a reply to: rickymouse

My my. So it isn't a health concern, this mask. Its a visual act of compliance and if anything, a ritual. Tackling, slamming, assaulting people is ok. The social distancing aspect takes a break.



The cheapest way to slow the spread of the virus so the hospitals can keep up is for people to wear masks till everyone has had the virus and has immunity or partial immunity at which point it just becomes a seasonal flu like disease. All the money wasted on tests that are misinterpreted is wasted money, and if people just followed the mask guideline and did some social distancing for a year, nothing major would have needed to be shut down. The idiots who are protesting the cheapest part of this whole pandemic response are fueling the money flowing to big pharma and medicine. I would rather wear a cheap mask when out in the store than sit in line in my car waiting to get a covid test....which eighty five percent of the time here is negative.

I bought two five packs of disposable masks in the summer, and had fourteen to start with, we have just started using then ew ones, they get dirty after about five or six uses, then I put them into the garage to use when I am sanding junk.




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