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Stalin and the creation of Israel in the Crimea

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posted on Sep, 4 2020 @ 01:26 AM
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Hello dear members of the ATS forum

In my thread, Stalin's Jewish Army, I described one of two reasons why Stalin played a decisive role in the creation of the state of Israel. This is a nuclear race with the United States. Today I want to tell you about the second reason. In this thread, I will describe events that almost none of you knew and did not even guess. This may shock you. The second reason is the plans to create a Jewish state in Crimea.

In the second half of the 19th century, the Jewish elite scattered throughout the world began to think about acquiring territory for a permanent place of residence for the Jewish people. Many options were considered, but among them two prevailed - Palestine and Taurida, located on the territory of present-day southern Ukraine and Crimea. Moreover, the territory of Taurida was considered as a preferable option for settling Jews. The main obstacle to the implementation of this project was the existence of the Russian Empire, on the territory of which the Tauride province with the administrative center in Simferopol was located. Few people know, but the American elite planned to create Israel not in Palestine at all, but in Crimea.

The chance for the implementation of the project of creating a Jewish state on the territory of Crimea appeared after the collapse of the Russian Empire. In 1922, Agro-Joint was created in Simferopol as a structure of the American Jewish charity organization Joint, headed by Rosen. In 1923, he proposed to the Soviet leadership a project “beneficial” for the USSR to create a Jewish autonomy on the territory of the Soviet Union, which, in addition to Crimea, was to cover Odessa, Nikolaev, Kherson and the Black Sea coast of the Caucasus (now Krasnodar Territory) up to Abkhazia. It was planned to resettle several hundred thousand Jews from the western regions of Ukraine and Belarus to this area. In return, international Jewish organizations promised to assist the Soviet Union in obtaining large loans.

The then Soviet leadership very favorably received the proposal to create a Jewish autonomy on the territory of the Soviet Union. Only Stalin opposed this idea. And he could be understood. The fact is that since 1921 the Crimean Tatar Autonomous Republic already existed on the territory of Crimea. The planned resettlement of Jews there could create a major hotbed of interethnic tension. But, despite this, under the leadership of Larin (Lurie), the development of the so-called "Crimean Jewish Project" began, which was directly supervised by the Jewish Congress of America, which included representatives of the two hundred richest people in the United States. The creation of the "Crimean Jewish Project" was welcomed by the US Presidents G. Hoover and F. Roosevelt, who made a decision to invest 15 million dollars through the "Joint" organization (quite an impressive amount at that time) for the Jewish colonization of Crimea.

Already in 1922, the newly formed "Agro-Joint" began to resettle Jews from Ukraine and Belarus to the Crimea and create Jewish collective farms. In 1923, 186 Jewish collective farms were created in Crimea. In 1923, "Agro-Joint" organized an advertising agricultural exhibition in Moscow, where the most advanced agricultural equipment at that time was presented. The slogan of this exhibition was: "This is how it will be in Crimea if we help the Jews settle there." Already terminally ill, Lenin went to this exhibition and approved these plans.

On February 19, 1929, the Soviet government, on behalf of the RSFSR, which then included Crimea, entered into an agreement with the Joint organization. According to this strictly secret agreement, the USSR received in the form of a loan of 900 thousand dollars annually for ten years at 5% per annum. The USSR government issued and handed over to the Joint organization bonds for the entire loan with interest ($ 20 million). These bonds were bought in the United States by subscription among the richest people in America. Under the terms of the agreement, the Soviet Union was obliged to complete payments on the entire loan amount with interest during 1954. In exchange for loans, the Soviet Union, until the full repayment of the debt in 1954, was obliged to create a Jewish Autonomous Republic on the territory of Crimea.



posted on Sep, 4 2020 @ 01:27 AM
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To secure bonds, the entire Crimean land was divided into shares. First, 200 people received shares on the Crimean land (several million hectares). These are the then US President G. Hoover, the future US President F. Roosevelt, his wife Eleanor, L. Marshall, Rockefeller and other American tycoons. Then others received shares on the Crimean land. These are US politicians, businessmen and bankers. Thus, in fact, the Soviet government took out a loan against promissory notes, behind which stood the Crimean territory.

However, after the strengthening of Stalin's position in the country's leadership, Stalin's interest in the "Crimean Jewish Project" disappeared. Everyone who participated in the development of the secret "Crimean project" was repressed in 1937 and then shot. But the obligations under the agreement have not disappeared anywhere. Therefore, in order to put an end to the "Crimean Jewish project", Stalin in 1934 created a Jewish Autonomous Region in the Far East with the administrative center in Birobidzhan. However, the world's Jewish elite have shown no interest in this area, although this land has fertile soil and a relatively mild climate.

One of the main reasons for the creation of the Jewish Autonomous Region in the Far East was also the fact that after the mass resettlement of Jews to Crimea, serious unrest began there, reaching bloodshed and armed clashes. Crimean Tatars did not let through and returned back trains with Jewish settlers arriving in Crimea, and also began to smash Jewish settlements. At that moment, Stalin said that we cannot kindle the national flame, and therefore we consider it impossible to create a Jewish republic in Crimea.

The bills remained with the Americans, and everything else went on as before. The Soviet Union continued to take loans. And already in 1943, at a meeting with the leader of the Yugoslav resistance movement Joseph Broz Tito, he said that he could no longer send him a part of the American Lend-Lease, since the Americans threaten to freeze it, citing the fact that the Soviet Union is not fulfilling its obligations under the treaty with "Joint" on the creation of a Jewish republic in Crimea. At the same time, Stalin said: “The Jewish lobby in America is very strong, and they demand from me to continue the Crimean California project. The Americans tell me that we cannot open a second front until the Soviet leadership makes a decision on Crimea. " That, it turns out, was what delayed the opening of the second front.

America's financial oligarchs needed to get Crimea at any cost. At Roosevelt's meetings with Stalin in Tehran and Yalta, Roosevelt constantly raised the Crimean issue with Stalin. And then the US Secretary of Commerce Harriman came to Moscow to resolve the Crimea issue in November 1945. Here is a letter from J. Marshall to Harriman:

“Dear Averell! President Truman approves of your plans. He added the following to them. The coexistence on the territory of Crimea of ​​the base of the Soviet Black Sea Fleet and the Jewish Republic, open for free entry of Jews from all over the world, seems inappropriate and fraught with unpredictable consequences. Crimea should become a demilitarized zone. Let Stalin know that he must be ready to relocate the fleet from Sevastopol to Odessa and on the Black Sea coast of the Caucasus. Then we will believe that the Crimean Jewish Republic is a reality, not a propaganda myth. "

If the treaty between the Soviet Union and the Joint organization of December 19, 1929 envisaged the creation of a Jewish republic within the USSR, then already in November 1945, judging from the above Marshall letter, and in violation of the terms of the treaty, the United States is already considering Crimea as an independent Jewish state ... This confirms the fact that the United States, even hypothetically, did not allow the possibility of creating a Jewish state on the territory of Palestine. Only in Crimea or nowhere.

At a meeting with Harriman in November 1945, Stalin reminded him that the Jewish Congress in Basel in 1897 had decided to establish a Jewish state in Palestine. It should be noted that the Jewish Congress made this decision not out of a good life, since the Russian Empire stood in the way of implementing the more preferable Crimean Jewish project. The British opposed the creation of a Jewish state in Palestine, who occupied Palestine during the First World War, and in 1918, under the mandate of the League of Nations, officially secured this territory for themselves. After the end of World War II, the Americans and their British allies did everything possible to prevent the creation of a Jewish state in Palestine, as in this case the "Crimean Jewish project" would lose its significance.



posted on Sep, 4 2020 @ 01:27 AM
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The desire of the Jews in 1945-1946 to create an independent state of Israel was brutally suppressed. The British shot Palestinian Jews, set their Arab allies against them, created unbearable living conditions for the Jews, not much different from living conditions during the German occupation, by all means squeezed Jews out of Palestine. But despite this, the Jews continued to wage a difficult war of independence with the British, receiving military support only from the Soviet Union. The question was straightforward. If the Palestinian Jews survive, the Crimean Project will lose its significance. And if they fail, the Americans will continue to put pressure on the "Crimean project" like a sore spot. The victory of the Palestinian Jews and the creation of the State of Israel in 1947 became possible only thanks to the military assistance of the Soviet Union, which not only supplied the Jews of Palestine with weapons and ammunition, including artillery, howitzers and tanks, through third countries, but also sent military instructors and volunteers from among the Soviet Jews.

After the creation of the state of Israel, Stalin believed that the Crimean issue was permanently marked with a fat point. However, there remained promissory notes, according to which the entire Crimean land was divided into shares, which in 1954, according to an agreement of 1929, were to become the property of the American elite. The transfer of Crimea to Ukraine by Khrushchev was Stalin's homework to annul the obligations of the Soviet Union under the above treaty. The fact is that bills signed by the Soviet government on behalf of the RSFSR, despite the creation of Israel in Palestine, remained valid. Only the transfer of the Crimean land from the jurisdiction of the RSFSR to the jurisdiction of some other union republic de facto canceled the obligations under the promissory notes. In this case, the Crimean land no longer belongs to the party that signed the bills.

It should be noted that after the transfer of Crimea from the RSFSR to Ukraine by Khrushchev, the city of Sevastopol, where the main base of the USSR Black Sea Fleet was, remained a part of the RSFSR. It was an enclave of the RSFSR in the Crimea. And only after the collapse of the USSR, Yeltsin, who was under the control of US instructors and openly said "God Save America", transferred not only Crimea, but also Sevastopol to Ukraine. Although the Ukrainian side at the talks in Belovezhskaya Pushcha was ready to abandon Crimea.

In 1954 it seemed that the Crimean Jewish Project was closed forever. However, with the collapse of the Soviet Union, projects to create a second Jewish state in Crimea appeared again, which, however, did not meet with active support of the world Jewish elite. These plans exist only for Chabad Lubavitch, and the Israeli authorities do not support them. In 2014, when Crimea was reunited with Russia, the Crimean Jewish Project was permanently closed.

But at the same time, after the Maidan in Kiev, when Ukraine began to fall apart, influential Jewish organizations started talking about the creation of a New Israel, or the so-called "Heavenly Jerusalem", on the territory of five regions of southern Ukraine. Judging by the Israeli media, the Jewish elite takes the project of creating a New Israel on the territory of the disintegrating Ukraine very seriously. However, as the “Crimean Spring” of 2014 got in the way of the “Crimean Jewish project”, so the “Novorossiya” project may also stand in the way of creating a New Israel according to Chabad in the territory of southern Ukraine.

Legally, Vladimir Putin made the right move. Obligations on the Crimean bills to the United States were borne by the RSFSR. Ukraine did not bear any obligations. Putin announced that the Russian Federation is not the legal successor of the RSFSR, but the USSR, and has legally secured this in accordance with international law. Russia took upon itself all the debts and all the obligations of the USSR, and fulfilled them. There are no legal claims against Russia regarding Crimea. And this policy now, in the 21st century, has become a logical continuation of Stalin's policy of the mid-20th century.

In addition, the succession of Russia to the USSR and the Russian Empire carries with it many more points that many do not consider now. But in the future, they will serve as legal grounds from the point of view of international law for very big surprises in relation to Western countries.

Thank.



posted on Sep, 4 2020 @ 10:05 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

Wow!

Oustanding OP. I didn't know any of this.

You've added value to my life today - and that's not an easy thing to do.

Well done!



posted on Sep, 4 2020 @ 10:17 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

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posted on Sep, 4 2020 @ 10:17 AM
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a reply to: Riffrafter

Thank you my friend! I am very happy))




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