George Floyd Toxicology Report Released

If someone is suicidal and JUMPS from a 100 storied Building and you Shoot him dead as He falls ITs still murder !
saying he would have died anyway is NOT going to get that cop off the others just stood will get reduced so will he But they are going up and so are a LOT more of the crimels with badges .
Im sick of hearing about cops getting teh wrong address and someone ending up dead I am sick of seeing videos of cops cold cocking KIDS females .

You police lovers -- Bay County Florida -- County jail A Inmate while getting a health check took a Nurse hostage .
now be aware He had no weapons But who did the cops SHOOT ? not once not twice BUT 3 TIMES ?

THE NURSE !!!!!!

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: mysterioustranger

originally posted by: Aallanon
a reply to: mysterioustranger

You shouldn’t let a drug crazed person have a chance to hurt you.

30 yrs on ambulance...I think I've had it all

I think there is a chance he may of been going into cardiac arrest in the car, why he said he couldn't breath.

What do you, in your experience think?

Hyperventilating perhaps w freaking out...and the drugs.

I'm a advanced triage life support specialist..and it could've been anything.

From our standpoint...and no judgement...follow this:

The guys alive
The guys cuffed
Trouble breathing
In stress and distress
Age related cardiac...
Extreme un-necessary pressure on neck
And that's not even his known histology medically speaking.

I don't care. I'd iv him, loaded him in cuffs and straps and gone...

All this was questionably disturbing

Modern Policing Dont nogate with a person holding hostages KILL the Hostages first .
Cops are MUCH more dangress then a GUY robbing your home that guy just wants stuff of value and DONT want to see you . A cop is LOOKING to KILL someone when he comes through the DOOR .

originally posted by: mysterioustranger

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: mysterioustranger

originally posted by: Aallanon
a reply to: mysterioustranger

You shouldn’t let a drug crazed person have a chance to hurt you.

30 yrs on ambulance...I think I've had it all

I think there is a chance he may of been going into cardiac arrest in the car, why he said he couldn't breath.

What do you, in your experience think?

Hyperventilating perhaps w freaking out...and the drugs.

I'm a advanced triage life support specialist..and it could've been anything.

From our standpoint...and no judgement...follow this:

The guys alive
The guys cuffed
Trouble breathing
In stress and distress
Age related cardiac...
Extreme un-necessary pressure on neck
And that's not even his known histology medically speaking.

I don't care. I'd iv him, loaded him in cuffs and straps and gone...

All this was questionably disturbing

I'm on your side(not that it's about taking sides), I agree with you.

originally posted by: mysterioustranger

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: mysterioustranger

originally posted by: Aallanon
a reply to: mysterioustranger

You shouldn’t let a drug crazed person have a chance to hurt you.

30 yrs on ambulance...I think I've had it all

I think there is a chance he may of been going into cardiac arrest in the car, why he said he couldn't breath.

What do you, in your experience think?

Hyperventilating perhaps w freaking out...and the drugs.

I'm a advanced triage life support specialist..and it could've been anything.

From our standpoint...and no judgement...follow this:

The guys alive
The guys cuffed
Trouble breathing
In stress and distress
Age related cardiac...
Extreme un-necessary pressure on neck
And that's not even his known histology medically speaking.

I don't care. I'd iv him, loaded him in cuffs and straps and gone...

All this was questionably disturbing

There was a nearly 40 minute period from the time the cops approached Floyd which would be right when he ingested the Fentynil to hide it/get rid of it , to the moment he died on the ground .

He struggled for 30+ minutes after taking the lethal dose of Fyntinal , that is more then enough time for the drugs to get in his system and stop his heart more than enough time.

The cops knee on his back was incidental nothing to do with killing him, If he could not breath then he could not talk .

You think your the only one with medical training.?

originally posted by: midnightstar
If someone is suicidal and JUMPS from a 100 storied Building and you Shoot him dead as He falls ITs still murder !

Incorrect... it's merciful skeet.

a reply to: smkymcnugget420

You don’t understand what is being said to you.

As a junkie, you build up tolerance. Kurdt had enough to kill three mere mortals and then shot himself in the head.

And fentanyl is even more insidious because you don’t “feel” the high like morphine and H. So you do more. Ask Prince.

The junkie brain actually changes and rewrires itself. After years of abuse that is why they can never use again. They will OD.

Now, this Floyd guy, was most likely F’ed up. And yes, death was coming. But I do not want the PoPo to take a Colin Pasternak knee on my neck when I am mouthing off!

THAT is the messed up part!

The police are supposed to protect all citizens and not endanger the one they are arresting..,

Or kill.,,

TextThe police are supposed to protect all citizens and not endanger the one they are arresting..,

Or kill.,,

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Unfortunately you cannot save people from them selves.

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: mysterioustranger

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: mysterioustranger

originally posted by: Aallanon
a reply to: mysterioustranger

You shouldn’t let a drug crazed person have a chance to hurt you.

30 yrs on ambulance...I think I've had it all

I think there is a chance he may of been going into cardiac arrest in the car, why he said he couldn't breath.

What do you, in your experience think?

Hyperventilating perhaps w freaking out...and the drugs.

I'm a advanced triage life support specialist..and it could've been anything.

From our standpoint...and no judgement...follow this:

The guys alive
The guys cuffed
Trouble breathing
In stress and distress
Age related cardiac...
Extreme un-necessary pressure on neck
And that's not even his known histology medically speaking.

I don't care. I'd iv him, loaded him in cuffs and straps and gone...

All this was questionably disturbing

There was a nearly 40 minute period from the time the cops approached Floyd which would be right when he ingested the Fentynil to hide it/get rid of it , to the moment he died on the ground .

He struggled for 30+ minutes after taking the lethal dose of Fyntinal , that is more then enough time for the drugs to get in his system and stop his heart more than enough time.

The cops knee on his back was incidental nothing to do with killing him, If he could not breath then he could not talk .

You think your the only one with medical training.?

Absolutely, I'm not. Nor judgemental...as apparently some are.

Let's not discuss anything about minutes, drugs, incident...only a medical triage asertation from him or the cops...or I make it.

Triage: Conscious? Breathing? On any meds? Take them/anything today?
Why cuffs? Any injuries?

Then drugs, how much, how long and can we save his butt....he didn't have to die there, then.

My professional opinion is you are discussing Phase 2, whereas I deal upon arrival instituting immediate, emergent and critical needs for transport stat.

And no matter what...thats 1st. Always. Thanks

M.S./EMT/ADLS-Advanced Life Support

"Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda"...is speculation...not life saving.

That's 1st.

originally posted by: mysterioustranger

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: mysterioustranger

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: mysterioustranger

originally posted by: Aallanon
a reply to: mysterioustranger

You shouldn’t let a drug crazed person have a chance to hurt you.

30 yrs on ambulance...I think I've had it all

I think there is a chance he may of been going into cardiac arrest in the car, why he said he couldn't breath.

What do you, in your experience think?

Hyperventilating perhaps w freaking out...and the drugs.

I'm a advanced triage life support specialist..and it could've been anything.

From our standpoint...and no judgement...follow this:

The guys alive
The guys cuffed
Trouble breathing
In stress and distress
Age related cardiac...
Extreme un-necessary pressure on neck
And that's not even his known histology medically speaking.

I don't care. I'd iv him, loaded him in cuffs and straps and gone...

All this was questionably disturbing

There was a nearly 40 minute period from the time the cops approached Floyd which would be right when he ingested the Fentynil to hide it/get rid of it , to the moment he died on the ground .

He struggled for 30+ minutes after taking the lethal dose of Fyntinal , that is more then enough time for the drugs to get in his system and stop his heart more than enough time.

The cops knee on his back was incidental nothing to do with killing him, If he could not breath then he could not talk .

You think your the only one with medical training.?

Absolutely, I'm not. Nor judgemental...as apparently some are.

Let's not discuss anything about minutes, drugs, incident...only a medical triage asertation from him or the cops...or I make it.

Triage: Conscious? Breathing? On any meds? Take them/anything today?
Why cuffs? Any injuries?

Then drugs, how much, how long and can we save his butt....he didn't have to die there, then.

My professional opinion is you are discussing Phase 2, whereas I deal upon arrival instituting immediate, emergent and critical needs for transport stat.

And no matter what...thats 1st. Always. Thanks

M.S./EMT/ADLS-Advanced Life Support

That's good and all but mate he was DOA, dead on arrival of the ambulance.

The only thing they could have done was give him a shot of Narcan that is if someone had realized he OD'd . His air way was not obstructed not crushed, the medical examiner said he died of asphyxia which I find hard to believe as he was talking all the way up to the moment he went unconscious which means he was breathing the entire time.

Sounds more like his heart stopped to me.

Also I'm not trying to sound judgmental , I simply put that tone off sometimes an old habit from my military days.

Wow... After reading the first page of this thread, at 5am where I live, I was sooooooo pissed off. I was pissed off all day, it got in the way of my work..... But, at 630pm here in Australia, I get home and I am so glad to read some voices of reason enter this thread. I've been considering weening myself from ATS of late, given the how right wing this place has somehow become, but a few threads have kept me hanging around.....
Cops are supposed to protect and serve even if youre in the wrong. If someone's armed and coming at ya, fair enough.... But Floyd wasn't doing any of that, neither was the latest guy that was gunned down. WTF are some of you guys thinking, to attempt justifying these pig's behaviour?

nevermind

originally posted by: illusion987
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Well I called it. Finally the actual toxicology report is in and guess what folks. Fatal dose of fentanyl in his system. HE WOULD HAVE DIED ANYWAY!!!!!

www.fox9.com...

So all these riots that came from the death of George Floyd are based on a completely false narrative. So BLM, you can go clean up the cities you destroyed, it was wrong information. Oh, but wait, they dont care do they?

Its like the reverse Rodney King video being released where it proves the cops didn't do anything wrong. Well cased closed. The officers charges will be dropped and hopefully will get a huge settlement out of this. They were completely vilified by the media and their own DA, Mayor etc.

I don't care if he put a litteral noose around his own neck and offered people money to pull on it, no cop should have their knee on a man's neck like that. Cops should set an example of good practice regardless of the situation.

originally posted by: illusion987
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Well I called it. Finally the actual toxicology report is in and guess what folks. Fatal dose of fentanyl in his system. HE WOULD HAVE DIED ANYWAY!!!!!

www.fox9.com...

So all these riots that came from the death of George Floyd are based on a completely false narrative. So BLM, you can go clean up the cities you destroyed, it was wrong information. Oh, but wait, they dont care do they?

Its like the reverse Rodney King video being released where it proves the cops didn't do anything wrong. Well cased closed. The officers charges will be dropped and hopefully will get a huge settlement out of this. They were completely vilified by the media and their own DA, Mayor etc.

I don't care if he put a litteral noose around his own neck and offered people money to pull on it, no cop should have their knee on a man's neck like that. Cops should set an example of good practice regardless of the situation.

a reply to: homerJ

How very myopic of you.

Try to put yourself in the cops position

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: mysterioustranger

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: mysterioustranger

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: mysterioustranger

originally posted by: Aallanon
a reply to: mysterioustranger

You shouldn’t let a drug crazed person have a chance to hurt you.

30 yrs on ambulance...I think I've had it all

I think there is a chance he may of been going into cardiac arrest in the car, why he said he couldn't breath.

What do you, in your experience think?

Hyperventilating perhaps w freaking out...and the drugs.

I'm a advanced triage life support specialist..and it could've been anything.

From our standpoint...and no judgement...follow this:

The guys alive
The guys cuffed
Trouble breathing
In stress and distress
Age related cardiac...
Extreme un-necessary pressure on neck
And that's not even his known histology medically speaking.

I don't care. I'd iv him, loaded him in cuffs and straps and gone...

All this was questionably disturbing

There was a nearly 40 minute period from the time the cops approached Floyd which would be right when he ingested the Fentynil to hide it/get rid of it , to the moment he died on the ground .

He struggled for 30+ minutes after taking the lethal dose of Fyntinal , that is more then enough time for the drugs to get in his system and stop his heart more than enough time.

The cops knee on his back was incidental nothing to do with killing him, If he could not breath then he could not talk .

You think your the only one with medical training.?

Absolutely, I'm not. Nor judgemental...as apparently some are.

Let's not discuss anything about minutes, drugs, incident...only a medical triage asertation from him or the cops...or I make it.

Triage: Conscious? Breathing? On any meds? Take them/anything today?
Why cuffs? Any injuries?

Then drugs, how much, how long and can we save his butt....he didn't have to die there, then.

My professional opinion is you are discussing Phase 2, whereas I deal upon arrival instituting immediate, emergent and critical needs for transport stat.

And no matter what...thats 1st. Always. Thanks

M.S./EMT/ADLS-Advanced Life Support

That's good and all but mate he was DOA, dead on arrival of the ambulance.

The only thing they could have done was give him a shot of Narcan that is if someone had realized he OD'd . His air way was not obstructed not crushed, the medical examiner said he died of asphyxia which I find hard to believe as he was talking all the way up to the moment he went unconscious which means he was breathing the entire time.

Sounds more like his heart stopped to me.

Also I'm not trying to sound judgmental , I simply put that tone off sometimes an old habit from my military days.

Understood, it's ok. Me too...thanks.

*I'm getting outta this thread leaving a final thought:

We arrive, man down, can't breathe but speaking, cop on his neck...even tho in custody.

Damn, folks! Nothing...nothing else is pertinent other than what's found on arrival. We know nothing about nothing yet.

Every run. Every. Single. One.

Since your cherry picking what to believe, i will do the same thing.

The Armed Forces Medical Examiner filed a memorandum agreeing with the Hennepin County Medical Examiner’s final conclusion that Floyd's death was a homicide, saying, “His death was caused by the police subdual and restraint in the setting of severe hypertensive atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease, and methamphetamine and fentanyl intoxication.”

And also

Among the new documents Tuesday was a memorandum outlining the findings from the independent medical examiners hired by the Floyd family, who list Floyd’s cause of death as “traumatic asphyxia due to the compression of his neck and back during restraint by police,” as was evident on bystander videos of the incident.

The memo admits the findings could be incomplete because they were awaiting microscopic slides, pictures and other evidence from the Hennepin County Medical Examiner’s report.

originally posted by: Aallanon
a reply to: homerJ

How very myopic of you.

Try to put yourself in the cops position

Lmfao, ya, for the last 2-3 minutes after the guy was unresponsive and pissed himself..oooo SCARY!!!!!!! When your scared of a non responsive, pretty much dead guy..you should retire.

HE CANT WALK BECAUSE HE IS SO #ED UP. The guy at the store where he passed the counterfeit 20 thought he was drunk.

it's the same drug user not admitting anything behavior. I've watched it enough times. Anyone who had a period in time in their life when they hid their drug usage should be able to see this. And body language. His left wrist is limp while his right kidney is trying to work, but his body cant keep up. You wouldnt even need to be a junkie or hardcore user or anything. If he admitted to everything he was on, he wouldve been facing YEARS in prison. A lot of people are watching the video too close or not closely enough. If he admitted he was on something, he would have gotten better help. His left wrist is limp, his right kidney is trying to process everything and he collapses. Just a body thing to look for, limp muscles from over filtration of foreign substances maybe? The body has a lot of left side makes the right side work symmetry. Im no doctor, but I have watched one being played on TV.

He knew he was going to die before the officers even supposedly blocked his airway. He makes opioid induced exhales that usually only monks who devote their entire lifes to meditation can produce.

Claustrophobic but he was the one driving the car, his passenger didnt want anything to do with it; let alone even be in the car with the guy, and not to mention theyre trying to charge even the guy that was "holding his legs down" with murder? The only way an agenda can be carried out like this is a blatant apathetic stance towards the outcome or situation of others. It's all pawny chess, mentally, to where you get one move if that's what going on. Then you have a media you can't trust regardless because people get paid based on their ability to write words; not to discern the truth.

Or who knows, maybe the cop shouldnt have had his knee on his neck.

Eh, anyways Ive thought about this enough for now. It's bull#### we don't get as much information (or camera angles) as we can initially only get the convenient bits as the story unfolds. And for that I call authoritarian (thought). (and if something is being hidden or halfway told, why trust it anyways?) Throw the 'make a story' rhetoric out the window and do a good job? Yeah, maybe in your next life, media.

But it comes down to the restraint method used is only legal if he was resisting arrest.