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Gulity Plea Expected In Durham Investigation

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posted on Aug, 14 2020 @ 10:56 AM
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Breaking story: A gulity plea is expected in The Durham investigation.
The FBI Lawyer who altered documents will plead guilty to a Felony,
according to The NYT.

From The New York Times:


WASHINGTON — A former F.B.I. lawyer intends to plead guilty to falsifying a document as part of a deal with prosecutors conducting their own criminal inquiry of the Russia investigation, according to three people familiar with the case. The lawyer, Kevin Clinesmith, 38, who was assigned to the Russia investigation, plans to admit that he altered an email from the C.I.A. that investigators relied on to seek renewed court permission in 2017 for a secret wiretap on the former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page...

Mr. Clinesmith was expected to be charged in federal court in Washington with a single felony count of making a false statement. He did not respond to an email seeking comment. A spokesman for Mr. Durham declined to comment.

www.nytimes.com...

For those who can't view the NYT, another few sources.


A top FBI lawyer who fabricated evidence in a federal spy warrant against Trump campaign affiliate Carter Page is expected to plead guilty to federal charges brought by U.S. Attorney John Durham. Kevin Clinesmith, who is expected to admit to deliberately fabricating evidence in a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant application, used to spy on a former campaign affiliate of President Donald Trump, was a top attorney in the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s Office of General Counsel (OGC) and a key agency attorney under fired former FBI Director James Comey.

thefederalist.com...

Legal Filing viewable here on Twatter.

twitter.com...

Document Cloud
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Bay News 9

www.sfchronicle.com...

Well, not earth shattering, but it is quite significant. This could
prove to be interesting if Durham is really going after it.
More than I expected at this point.

But some say there can be any further revelations due to the 60 day election rule.
Well, there is in fact NO 60 day rule, so we shall see what comes next!

ETA: This is going to give Joe Biden a brain twist for sure.

edit on 14-8-2020 by burntheships because: (no reason given)




posted on Aug, 14 2020 @ 11:01 AM
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a reply to: burntheships

The question I have is, will Clinesmith be the fall guy for the whole shebang, or will others feel the wrath as well?

It would not surprise me one bit if this guy is the sum total of all who participated be the only one to be called to the carpet



posted on Aug, 14 2020 @ 11:04 AM
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a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Let's hope not. Here's hoping he flipped and drags the whole filthy lot down with him.



posted on Aug, 14 2020 @ 11:07 AM
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originally posted by: burntheships
Breaking story: A gulity plea is expected in The Durham investigation.

From The New York Times


WASHINGTON — A former F.B.I. lawyer intends to plead guilty to falsifying a document as part of a deal with prosecutors conducting their own criminal inquiry of the Russia investigation, according to three people familiar with the case. The lawyer, Kevin Clinesmith, 38, who was assigned to the Russia investigation, plans to admit that he altered an email from the C.I.A. that investigators relied on to seek renewed court permission in 2017 for a secret wiretap on the former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page...

www.nytimes.com...

For those who can't view the NYT, another source.

www.sfchronicle.com...

Well, not earth shattering, but more than I expected. This could
prove to be interesting if Durham is really going after it.

Will post more soon....



Pretty much what has been alledged from early on, lets hope they find out where it started. Do lawyer's normally just change emails on their own?



posted on Aug, 14 2020 @ 11:10 AM
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a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Was he told to falsify the email by someone higher up?



posted on Aug, 14 2020 @ 11:14 AM
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Somewhere, James Comey just reached for his bottle of SSRIs.



posted on Aug, 14 2020 @ 11:19 AM
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originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
a reply to: burntheships

The question I have is, will Clinesmith be the fall guy for the whole shebang, or will others feel the wrath as well?


Same here, although I have to admit I am a bit shocked they
have a guilty felony plea. Clinesmith could have taken his
chances on a trial, plenty of brainwashed folks out there
to fill those seats.

Makes me wonder...this might just be the pry bar,
one can hope at least.




posted on Aug, 14 2020 @ 11:20 AM
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Well now....
The debate begins about "names".
Lol



posted on Aug, 14 2020 @ 11:21 AM
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Scapegoat.
He will be prosecuted and they will use that prosecution to cover for all those that were involved at the top level.



posted on Aug, 14 2020 @ 11:22 AM
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Most pleas or deals also require names of other players.....

This is the first domino to fall....


originally posted by: IamAbeliever
a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Let's hope not. Here's hoping he flipped and drags the whole filthy lot down with him.



posted on Aug, 14 2020 @ 11:24 AM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer

Agreed you don’t get a deal like that without naming names



posted on Aug, 14 2020 @ 11:25 AM
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originally posted by: putnam6
Pretty much what has been alledged from early on, lets hope they find out where it started. Do lawyer's normally just change emails on their own?


Not at his level, though he was actually high enough up,
its just we all heard names like Lisa Page and James Baker
along with dirty Peter Strzok, Comey and Brennan.

My bet is he had instructions from one of the above.

Durham did just interview Baker and Brennan,
its all very tight lipped. No leaks, which is great.



posted on Aug, 14 2020 @ 11:43 AM
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originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
a reply to: burntheships

The question I have is, will Clinesmith be the fall guy for the whole shebang, or will others feel the wrath as well?

It would not surprise me one bit if this guy is the sum total of all who participated be the only one to be called to the carpet


My thoughts as well.

This clown is small game in the scheme of things.



posted on Aug, 14 2020 @ 12:13 PM
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I’m cynical enough to predict that this guy may just be the fall guy and the only one to suffer consequences.

But I’m hopeful enough to want him to be the key to higher ups. It is interesting, that he took the plea. You’d think someone facing charges like this with a high level of confidence that Team Socialist was going to win in November would take his chances forcing a trial and trying to postpone as long as possible waiting for a New AG to fire Durham. Since he took the deal now, the best he could do is hope for a pardon in the next Dem admin, or barring that ends up in a situation similar to Gen. Flynn is in now. Indeed to re read and see if there was a sentence as part of the plea.



posted on Aug, 14 2020 @ 12:42 PM
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Barr said that this is a sign that Durham's probe is moving in the right direction. He also said there will be prosecutions before the election.

Who else was involved in this nonsense? Comey, Rosenstein, Strzok...

There are several people who we now know made false statements about this investigation.



BTW, did you see yesterday where it leaked that the FBI knows that Seth Rich gave those e-mails to Wikileaks? (Meaning they know that there was never a server hack, by Russia or anyone else.)
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posted on Aug, 14 2020 @ 12:58 PM
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originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
Barr said that this is a sign that Durham's probe is moving in the right direction. He also said there will be prosecutions before the election.

Who else was involved in this nonsense? Comey, Rosenstein, Strzok...

There are several people who we now know made false statements about this investigation.



BTW, did you see yesterday where it leaked that the FBI knows that Seth Rich gave those e-mails to Wikileaks? (Meaning they know that there was never a server hack, by Russia or anyone else.)


I did not see, is there a thread or a link?
Thanks in advance!

I think Barr played this just perfect. He didn't over hype,
he was measured, almost underplayed it.

I have a lot of hope today that this is just the beginning.



posted on Aug, 14 2020 @ 03:01 PM
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a reply to: burntheships

Sadly he isn't going to rat on anyone over those weak charges. I would bet he is paid off well enoughifhe does know anything that he will go do his tiny bit of time...get out early...and even have his rights restored in record time. Conviently it will be after most have forgotten about it.



posted on Aug, 14 2020 @ 03:09 PM
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From the filing:


A. Defendant's False Statement

11 . On June 19, 2017, immediately following the instant messages between the defendant and the SSA , the defendant, from his office in theHoover Building , forwarded the OGA Liaison's June 15, 2017 email to the SSA with alterations that the defendant had made so that the OGA Liaison's email read as follows :

My recollection is that [ Individual# 1] was or is “ [digraph not a " source but the [documents ] will explain the details. If you need a formal definition for the FISA, please let me know and work up some language and get it cleared for use (emphasis added). The defendant had altered the original June 15, 2017 email from the OGA Liaison by adding the words“ and not a source ” to the email , thus making it appear that the OGA Liaison had written in the email that Individual# 1 was “not a source” for the OGA. Relying on the altered email , the SSA signed and submitted the application to the Court on June 29, 2017.The application for FISA #4 did not include Individual# history or status with the OGA.


Source (direct download link from nyt.com)

Looks to me like this is worded in such a way that Clinesmith took it upon himself to alter the document and the SSA (Strzok, I believe) was merely using information he was given without knowing it was falsified.

In other words, Clinesmith is being made the fall guy for the whole thing.



posted on Aug, 14 2020 @ 03:12 PM
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a reply to: RickyD

Attorney general Barr said last night, others are being teed up for prosecution. And those prosecution's will happen before the November election.

Kevin clinesmith is minor, compared to what's coming.. according to attorney general Barr.



posted on Aug, 14 2020 @ 03:17 PM
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a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Unfortunately The Forum allows duplicate threads. This particular thread is missing much of the information the earlier one contains.

See this post.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Was not a clerical error as the liberal media will contend...

Proof: www.abovetopsecret.com...


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