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originally posted by: raedar
Oh well they used software, so...
Jim you have seen them?
Hasn’t this phenomenon existed pre-automobile era?
I have seen them and their height and the way they morph and change colors leads me to my own conclusion.
Too bad they couldn’t do more on the ground scientific testing. Before releasing a study and all.
originally posted by: drewlander
a reply to: JimOberg
I thought i watched a tv show years ago now that they already settled this by flying a drone or helicopter over the area as well as driving a car around some bend to reproduce the lights. Is this book ground-breaking?
When trying to observe the Lights with the CBS crew for "Unsolved Mysteries", I did determine that the Lights were incandescent in nature. Which fits with the "car light" hypothesis
Piezoelectricity
Piezoelectricity
Piezoelectricity is the electric charge that accumulates in certain solid materials (such as crystals, certain ceramics, and biological matter such as bone, DNA and various proteins) in response to applied mechanical stress. The word piezoelectricity means electricity resulting from pressure and latent heat. It is derived from the Greek word πιέζειν; piezein, which means to squeeze or press, and ἤλεκτρον ēlektron, which means amber, an ancient source of electric charge. French physicists Jacques and Pierre Curie discovered piezoelectricity in 1880.
According to multiple sites on the internet, the early death of Elvis was a hoax and he's still alive.
originally posted by: butcherguy
According to multiple sites on the Internet, the sightings date back to 1883.
According to oral history, Shafer says, the lights were first sighted by rancher Robert Ellison as he drove cattle from Alpine to Marfa in 1883...
Despite having written an autobiography later in life, Ellison never mentioned in print seeing the lights....
The earliest written account of the lights, however, appeared in the San Angelo Times in 1945, according to journalist Hall.
originally posted by: drewlander
a reply to: JimOberg
I thought i watched a tv show years ago now that they already settled this by flying a drone or helicopter over the area as well as driving a car around some bend to reproduce the lights. Is this book ground-breaking?
But in 2011, a group of scientists published a study in the Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics on the lights after coming to a much simpler conclusion: They determined that the lights are actually car headlights on nearby U.S. 67 that appear warped as they travel across 20 miles (32 kilometers) of flatland.
I don't think ball lightning can last for more than a few minutes so I'd rule that out for a light lasting 3h. A power-line arc is possible though I would have thought some safety switches would have shut down the power of a circuit with a 10 kW arc lasting more than a few seconds. Exotic combustion and exotic Rydberg matter? How could that be? Given they list four possibilities, it's obvious they don't know what the source of that 10 kW light was that lasted 3 hours, but it started at the same time as a lightning strike which sounds like more than coincidence.
On June 3, 2005, in western Texas, luminous phenomena, including an extremely bright luminous object (EBLO), which emitted light for over 3 h, were photographed by two automated monitoring stations during a series of intense thunderstorms. Certain lightning strokes recorded by the National Lightning Detection Network (NLDN) correlate well with the origin of the brightest object in time and space. Optical triangulation located it on the ground at a distance of about 28 km from the farthest station, and absolute radiometric measurements indicate the object's peak emitted visible-wavelength power was of the order of 10 kW. Possible explanations for these objects are discussed.
Highlights
We report observations of an extremely bright luminous object emitting 10 kW of optical power near Marfa, Texas.
► The object emitted light for more than 3 h after a lightning strike correlated with National Lightning Detection Network data.
► Possible explanations: ball lightning, power-line arc, exotic combustion, and Rydberg matter.
If a tank battery has 10 kW x 3h = 30 kW-h of stored energy, it could be a possible source, but how likely is it lightning would strike an exposed tank battery? If it's inside a tank or storage facility those would tend to shield the battery from the lightning.
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: Arbitrageur
Tank battery maybe? They can make a nice arc as they melt down and start flaming.
energy capacities ranging from 6 kWh to 63 kWh. The battery systems are available in different shapes and sizes to meet a multitude of Class I, II and III forklift truck models from various manufacturers.
originally posted by: St Udio
a reply to: ufoorbhunter
i am in your camp...
Natural stress forces are the source of the luminious artifacts....
the process is well known:
Piezoelectricity
Piezoelectricity
Piezoelectricity is the electric charge that accumulates in certain solid materials (such as crystals, certain ceramics, and biological matter such as bone, DNA and various proteins) in response to applied mechanical stress. The word piezoelectricity means electricity resulting from pressure and latent heat. It is derived from the Greek word πιέζειν; piezein, which means to squeeze or press, and ἤλεκτρον ēlektron, which means amber, an ancient source of electric charge. French physicists Jacques and Pierre Curie discovered piezoelectricity in 1880.
Wikipedia
there is another spot in the USA where a similar phenomena occurs with regularity...Brown Mountain Lights in western NC Applachian mount