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originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: burdman30ott6
This is the first conspiracy theory in a while that gave me pause. Kudo's for that.
DOcean's addition makes it even more interesting. Makes me wonder if it's possible animals from the lab might end up in the market somehow. One to ponder.
China’s high-tech industrialization policy, known as Made in China 2025, purports to take the country to the front ranks of advanced manufacturing in aerospace, robotics, clean energy, transportation and the life sciences. But the transformation into a global biotech and pharmaceutical dynamo might prove more challenging than making robots or self-driving cars.
That is because China lacks a good regulatory and ethical review process, a serious problem highlighted last November when scientist He Jiankui gave the world an unwelcome surprise. He announced that he had edited the genes of twin girls at the embryo stage with the aim of enhancing their resistance to HIV—an experiment with the potential to produce a host of genetic and health problems that could be passed on to the twins’ offspring.
originally posted by: Bigburgh
a reply to: burdman30ott6
Is this the stuff that was flown by drone to the Chinese country side and dropped?
Looking for that thread, only within the last month.
Here’s a new and dishonest way to use drones. According to the SUPChina, Chinese gangsters use drones to spread African swine fever to scare farmers into selling their animals at a discount before trafficking the sick pigs across province lines and selling them in “clean” areas.
This study attempts to profile China’s biological warfare programme (BWP), with special reference to biological weapons (BW) capabilities that exist in facilities affiliated with the defence establishment and the military.
Considering the entire profile of activities of the 32 listed facilities profiled in the present study, one can conclude that China is capable of developing, producing and weaponizing, on the whole, some 40 anti-human pathogens and toxins (P&T), either intact or genetically upgraded, if not largely engineered. In actuality, it is highly plausible that, at present, China possesses a lessened inventory of employable weaponized BWA. Presumably, it comprises a first generation of BWA (for example, plague and brucellosis germs) in an operational state; a second generation of BWA (for example, Hantan and Japanese Encephalitis viruses) in an operational state; plus a third generation of BWA (for example, SARS, Ebola and Influenza viruses) still under development, in part or entirely. Included are a considerable variety of P&T, both classic BWA and emergent P&T. Anti-livestock and anti-crop BWA are included as well in the Chinese BW inventory. A spectrum of toxins has been weaponized and others are under development as well, and might replace chemical warfare agents (CWA).
Facilities affiliated with the defence establishment are as follows: 1. State Research Center for Viro-Biotechnology Engineering; 2. Biological Engineering Design Institute; 3. China National Biotech Corporation; 4. Lanzhou Institute of Biological Products; 5. Changchun Institute of Biological Products ; 6. Wuhan Institute of Biological Products; 7. Chengdu Institute of Biological Products;
144Journal of Defence Studies 8. Beijing Institute of Technology; 9. Northwestern Polytechnical University;10. National University of Defense Technology;11. Shenyang Pharmaceutical University; and12. Shenzhen Jiusheng Biotechnology Products Plant.
Facilities affiliated with (owned by or integral to) the PLA are: 1. Zibo Baoding Biological Engineering Company; 2. Oriental Scientific Instruments Corporation; 3. Research Institute of Chemical Defense; 4. Institute of Biotechnology; 5. Institute of Bioengineering; 6. PLA Institute of Disease Control and Prevention; 7. Institute of Microbiology and Epidemiology; 8. Beijing Huifenglong Biotechnology Development; 9. Institute of Medical Equipment;10. Institute of Environment and Health;11. PLA Key Genetic Engineering Laboratory;12. Military Veterinary Institute;13. General Hospital Number 301;14. Infectious Diseases Hospital Number 302; 15. Second Military Medical University; 16. Third Military Medical University; 17. Institute of Military Medicine, Beijing (and/or Institute of Military Medicine, Lanzhou); 18. Institute of Military Medicine, Nanjing; 19. Center of Disease Control and Prevention, Shenyang; and 20. Center for Disease Control and Prevention, Chengdu
originally posted by: billxam
I come at this as someone who's had a viral infection in his lungs (2012) and have been following this very, very closely starting in December. Trust me, being that sick and your heart stopping from the fluids is not something I want to go through again.
I noticed the existence of the lab where all this started and the very odd finding (in my opinion) so quickly about the source. I'll add the two conferences from WHO who are still claiming that the animal source is still unknown (as of 2:00 pm, 1/23/20). Something just doesn't add up. If they "found" the market weeks ago and with WHO nattering on about how everyone is doing a boffo job on researching the virus but still can't figure out the animal source. And that lab. That's what gets me.
Granted I'm not an expert but really, it's not making sense.
Ahead of the holiday, authorities initially said that the virus, which began in a Wuhan food market selling exotic animals for consumption, was mild and could not be transmitted between humans. But that changed this week when the number of people infected by the virus, which has an incubation period as long as 14 days, began to rise rapidly.
Even one of the government's top experts, who had played down the prospects for widespread infection, contracted the virus.
In Macao, where one case has been found, the government said it might shut down the territory's casinos if the epidemic worsens. Macao's gambling sector is seven times the size of Las Vegas's. The authorities have already called off a public festival to ring in the new year.
Rebecca Zhang had tried to get treatment for her 65-year-old father, who developed a fever on Jan. 13, at two hospitals in Wuhan, but they were turned away because of a "lack of capacity." The hospitals refused to even test him for the coronavirus, apparently to avoid having to admit him, Zhang wrote on Weibo.
Other hospitals would not see him without a positive diagnosis of coronavirus. "He was stuck in an infinite loop!" she wrote on Wednesday, saying he had still not been admitted despite scans showing serious inflammation in both lungs.
As the uncertainty continued, Guan, the virologist who identified SARS, offered a chilling perspective on the outbreak.
"I've seen it all: bird flu, SARS, influenza A, swine fever and the rest. But the Wuhan pneumonia makes me feel extremely powerless," he told Caixin. "Most of the past epidemics were controllable, but this time, I'm petrified."
"In order to comply with epidemic prevention and control works, and to put people's lives, safety, and health in the first place, mass gatherings should be reduced in order to ensure a harmonious and peaceful Spring Festival," the Beijing Culture and Tourism Bureau said in a statement.
"It is decided that Beijing will cancel all large-scale events, including temple fairs, effective from today," it said.
The Forbidden City, the old imperial palace in the heart of Beijing and one of China's top tourist attractions, said it was closing its doors until further notice "in order to avoid cross-infection caused by the gathering of people."
Authorities in Wuhan announced even more stringent measures. In addition to banning public gatherings, local officials, wearing masks, announced that the start of the spring semester at all Hubei province schools would be delayed because of the outbreak.
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Blaine91555
It doesn't make any sense IF they total number of infected is at 650-700, which is today's official range. They didn't take steps to this degree even at the height of the SARS outbreak, which "officially" had 10 times as many cases and 30 times as many deaths. Something is clearly happening that the public isn't being told.
originally posted by: chiefsmom
If it supposedly started with some type of animal, than can it be transmitted to other animals, besides us?