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Australian Prime Minister Shouted Out of Town

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posted on Jan, 2 2020 @ 07:48 PM
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The Australian Prime Minister has been quite literally shouted out of town by angry locals in the town of Cobargo in NSW - A town that has been ravaged by fire. At least two from the town have lost their lives, many have lost homes. The Prime Minister of Australia has been handling this national emergency with a level of incompetence that can only be described as unbelievable. He is hiding from an emergency that all climate, fire and forestry authorities in Australia have directly attributed to Climate Change. This is an issue the prime minister is hoping will go away. Unfortunately for him, it looks to be setting in for the summer. Australia's fire season peaks in February!




Prime Minister Scott Morrison has been confronted by angry residents in the bushfire-hit town of Cobargo in New South Wales.

Key points:

Scott Morrison said Australians should have confidence in state emergency services and show "patience" and "calm"
Anthony Albanese is arguing that Australia needs to have more ambitious emissions-reduction targets
One person told Mr Morrison he should be "ashamed of himself" and he had "left the country to burn" during a tour of the burnt-out town of Cobargo
Two people died near the Bega Valley town when it was hit by a raging bushfire early on New Year's Eve.

Visiting the town on Thursday to meet emergency services workers and offer his support to bushfire victims, the PM found himself confronted by a group of angry locals.

One person told Mr Morrison he should be "ashamed of himself" and said he had "left the country to burn".

"You're a mutt ScoMo," they yelled.


www.abc.net.au...



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posted on Jan, 2 2020 @ 07:58 PM
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Climate change , because Australia Never was hot ever! Only since the combustion engine!!


People are such robotic idiots, go back to the Stone Age every thing will be better
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posted on Jan, 2 2020 @ 08:12 PM
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He is hiding from an emergency that all climate, fire and forestry authorities in Australia have directly attributed to Climate Change


That sentence shows just how awful people will grasp at anything including heartbreak to push their clumsy agenda.

Not one single person in that clip was talking about climate change.

The major problem has been green idiots preventing burning off because of bush animals.

Well, the animals are dead, the bush has gone for now and the idiot greenies have nothing.

Typical idiots.

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posted on Jan, 2 2020 @ 08:19 PM
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originally posted by: WUNK22
Climate change , because Australia Never was hot ever! Only since the combustion engine!!


People are such robotic idiots, go back to the Stone Age every thing will be better


Well, that's what authorities in all relevant fields are attributing the severity, duration and early timing of these fires to. I certainly don't remember any year like this and the statistics from the Australian Bureau of Meteorology suggest that they haven't either.




The data is in and 2019 has topped the Bureau of Meteorology's (BOM) charts for average and maximum temperatures as well as the lowest annual rainfall across the country.

Key points:

Australia's annual mean and maximum temperatures both broke records set in 2013
The national area average rainfall was the lowest on record going all the way back to 1900
The hot and dry conditions are the result of a strong Indian Ocean Dipole and background warming
It will come as no surprise to those suffering through this horror fire and heatwave season that the conditions leading up to it were the worst on record.

The new figures arrived as large parts of the country brace for more dangerous fire conditions over the next few days.

BOM will comment when its official report comes out next week, but the numbers speak for themselves.

Australia's annual mean temperature was 1.52 degrees Celsius above the 1961-90 average of 21.8C — well above the previous hottest year (2013) at 1.33C.


www.abc.net.au...

The summer Australia is experiencing right now will go down as one of Australia's defining historical tradgedies. It will not be a summer we will forget.



posted on Jan, 2 2020 @ 08:21 PM
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I think he's handled this very poorly.

Especially booking a holiday to Europe while the country burns. That was not what a leader does!

I cannot understand his awkwardness in this situation, he could be a shining light and dedicated all of Australia's resources to this but he's holding back.

Global Warming - it happens I think - but the Sun is much more a reason than we are.

Australia's a hot place, there's been bush-fires in these parts since before Europeans came to the continent.

We need better bush management to remove fuel and more investment in renewables!



posted on Jan, 2 2020 @ 08:33 PM
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Fires are a natural part of the Australian landscape, has been that way for many 1000's of years at least. Some species of plants require a fire to propagate.

A better back burning program does help manage the effects of fires. When fires are done during a cooler time of the year, there are easier to manage and do not release as much CO2 for those on the fear porn with it.

The local councils do have a difficult time with so many roads and limited resources in effectively managing their build up of organic and flammable matter.

A lot of the land owners are more keen in setting up fire breaks and performing back burning themselves. Some councils do not get it and make it harder for the land owners to perform this maintenance. When communist greenies take over it just makes a mess as usual. Things just build up so when it does hit, it hits a lot harder.

More can be done to help promote and support back burning policies. It can be a risky process as things can get out of hand, especially when inexperienced and unorganized people are running the show. Done right it does help avoid the mass casualties and evacuations that will continue to take place.

A property that is properly prepared to defend itself during a bush fire can do quite well through most fire events. When things are neglected and a perfect storm hits, the intensity is much stronger and risks are higher.

When living in the country it is something always on your mind. Thankfully I have not been directly hit by a fire, a few close calls. For those that think this is about climate change, check out some history books. Fire management policy is one thing we can do something about.



posted on Jan, 2 2020 @ 08:40 PM
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The major problem has been green idiots preventing burning off because of bush animals.

Well, the animals are dead, the bush has gone for now and the idiot greenies have nothing.


This^^

Higher levels of CO2 actually help with drought as plants lose less water to the atmosphere when absorbing CO2.



posted on Jan, 2 2020 @ 08:42 PM
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a reply to: harold223

Well, that's what authorities in all relevant fields are attributing the severity, duration and early timing of these fires to. 


Makes sense; why would the authorities in all relevant fields want to be quite literally shouted out of town by angry mobs of people for saying otherwise.



posted on Jan, 2 2020 @ 08:44 PM
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originally posted by: WUNK22
Climate change , because Australia Never was hot ever! Only since the combustion engine!!


People are such robotic idiots, go back to the Stone Age every thing will be better


You can tell some nutwits over and over that climate fluctuation is a natural cycle till you turn blue and they will simply ignore it and start Doom-Porning again about how humans are solely to blame.

I'm pretty sure that this particular "small crowd of people", whom certainly don't share the collective views of the Australian people, would actually agree with the idea that maybe Daniel Andrews would have saved the day like a true hero..lol (for those who don't understand that reference, Daniel Andrews is a hero to many of these left wing, fringe groups "as specially eco-groups" and has ties to several communist movements in the country).

As for the rubbish that these fires are unprecedented..

I have been out fighting raging, numerous, out of control fires as early as September and I can remember many summers prior to this where the season has kicked off with a s#@tstorm.

Perhaps. if these eco-activists didn't kick up such a stink about burning off during the off season, the impact of fires like this wouldn't be so bad that resources were not stretcher beyond their limits over such a large area (which incidentally, isn't the PM's call in the first place, as the fire services command staff decide which locations require the most attention).

Oh, I'd just like to add that these people are winging that they were only allocated 5 crews…!?!

For the size of that particular community, five crews and a CAT 4 or 5 is more than adequate to set up and maintain a parameter and if the situation changes, then more resources can be drawn from other areas.

Most fires I have been to haven't required more than 3 to 5 crews in a specific zone at one time. Not only is this number more than adequate, it's also for safety reasons..

If the S#@t does hit the fan, losing a small number of vehicles and crews is easier to compensate for than losing a whole task force.
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posted on Jan, 2 2020 @ 08:45 PM
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a reply to: kwakakev

I've seen a documentary where the aboriginal Australians have been almost barred from starting bush fires for hunting.

Hmmm maybe they were onto something as in you know, ancient traditions as stewards of the lands?



posted on Jan, 2 2020 @ 09:09 PM
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Some of the original Australians still get it. Very long traditions there. Hunting was a part of it, but it was about more than that with land management also important. If a council is pretty clueless on how to go about starting a back burning program, talk to some of the locals.



posted on Jan, 2 2020 @ 11:03 PM
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I believe that climate change is very real and is happening due to numerous factors, some natural, some impacted by human activity. It's even messing up the cyclone/ monsoon season. It is quite obvious when looking at the numbers that there has been a steep decline in recent years since records began in 1970.

tropical-cyclone-knowledge-centre/history/past-tr opical-cyclones

Australia has always had fires, even horrendous firestorms, but they are much more numerous now and firestorms are becoming to be an expected part of summer. This is why mass evacuations are currently underway, tomorrow is expected to be a nightmare situation with wind gust upto 80kmh- 100kmh. I don't ever recall evacuations on such a large scale before, and authorities now have the power to force people to leave, with Victoria declaring a state of disaster.

What ever your political stance or view on climate change is, you can't deny the scope of what is happening at the moment. We still have another 3 months of fire season at the very least.


Oh and Sco Mo is a dickhead.

edit on 4America/Chicago06Thu, 02 Jan 2020 23:06:21 -0600021100000020 by weirdguy because: Because I forgot to say that the Australian prime minister is a dickhead.



posted on Jan, 2 2020 @ 11:09 PM
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originally posted by: pheonix358
a reply to: harold223
The major problem has been green idiots preventing burning off because of bush animals.


god could you be any more obvious or pathetic in your regurgitation of tired murdoch press lies?
how can the greens be responsible for anything when they have NEVER held the balance of power? when, in fact, the coalition has been solidly in charge for the last how many years?

and either way whatever porkies you come back to that with are irrelevant, because this thread is about Scotty from marketing and how he snatched at some poor woman's hand and then ran a bloody mile when she asked for help, because he's not a leader, he was only there for a photo op.

nah let me guess, we should all calm down, forget that there are places burning now that have NEVER burned, and settle down to watch the cricket



posted on Jan, 2 2020 @ 11:28 PM
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originally posted by: continuousThunder

originally posted by: pheonix358
a reply to: harold223
The major problem has been green idiots preventing burning off because of bush animals.


god could you be any more obvious or pathetic in your regurgitation of tired murdoch press lies?
how can the greens be responsible for anything when they have NEVER held the balance of power? when, in fact, the coalition has been solidly in charge for the last how many years?

and either way whatever porkies you come back to that with are irrelevant, because this thread is about Scotty from marketing and how he snatched at some poor woman's hand and then ran a bloody mile when she asked for help, because he's not a leader, he was only there for a photo op.

nah let me guess, we should all calm down, forget that there are places burning now that have NEVER burned, and settle down to watch the cricket


Although Greens have never held the balance of power in the Federal Parliament, they have in several state parliaments (including Victoria), at one point or another.

Besides that, insane green policies have not been solely a "reds....err I mean Greens thing", where their (and a number of independent eco-groups) highly vocal opinions have swayed previous labor state/federal leaderships in the past to place restrictions on fuel reduction programs.

It's those opinionated asswipes that fundamentally caused both the Ash Wednesday and Black Saturday disasters because of a build up of dry fuel over decades. And now we have it happening all over again because The CFA, DWELP, Melbourne Water, Parks Vic, The Catchment Management Authority and the Forestry service have all had their hands tied over the last few years, unable to attain a substantial amount of fuel reduction due to red tape influenced by a vocal minority of do-gooders, wanting to save "habitat"...!

Well, now a lot of that "habitat", is gone and that is why "Places that haven't burnt before are burning now"..!!

As someone who has been on the front line and worked for a number of these organizations, to someone making all their expert calls from a comfortable armchair with all the knowledge of the internet at their disposal, I can educatedly tell you that past policies backed by the Greens is absolutely to blame for the current mess.!!

And, as someone who may very soon be under direct ember attack as the winds pick up "most unfavorably", over the next 48 hours, I don't blame ScoMo, the emergency or land management services one little bit. I blame the people who influenced the situation by creating restrictions on the organizations tasked with keeping this kind of thing from happening...!!
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posted on Jan, 2 2020 @ 11:31 PM
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a reply to: continuousThunder

yeah it's hard to understand how much people swallow Murdoch's utter tripe in 2020 via his media empire.
He has always been the quintessential lying evil bastard and never minded people knowing it.
But like you said the PM went for a snapchat hip photo op with desperate grief stricken people, so he kinda sucks and has no morals. These people showed more dignity at their lowest than he will ever display at his highest.


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posted on Jan, 2 2020 @ 11:41 PM
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blah blah blah blame "do gooders" and ignore the fact that the libs & nats cut the capital budgets of the nsw fire & rescue by 35.4% and the nsw rural fire service by 75.2%

nah it's all clearly on the shoulders of what you've admitted outright is a minority with no power.
brilliant. headcrabs really got a hold on you

eta; love 2 know what makes you think you know anything about where i am or how comfortable my seat is. certainly a rational assertion for you to make and not a classic bluster move at all
edit on 2-1-2020 by continuousThunder because: someone clearly needs to watch some cricket



posted on Jan, 2 2020 @ 11:49 PM
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a reply to: harold223 The sun is orange in New Zealand. We had a cold wet december.

Had Morrison not been on holiday, perhaps towns could have been evacuated before Christmas?
Nah - NOT REALLY HE WOULDN'T have given a damn even if he stayed home = Poor AUSSIES, Why do ya VOTE FOR THESE CREEPS?



posted on Jan, 2 2020 @ 11:56 PM
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originally posted by: continuousThunder
a reply to: Ironclad1964

blah blah blah blame "do gooders" and ignore the fact that the libs & nats cut the capital budgets of the nsw fire & rescue by 35.4% and the nsw rural fire service by 75.2%

nah it's all clearly on the shoulders of what you've admitted outright is a minority with no power.
brilliant. headcrabs really got a hold on you

eta; love 2 know what makes you think you know anything about where i am or how comfortable my seat is. certainly a rational assertion for you to make and not a classic bluster move at all


Because if your seat was anywhere else than where I predicted it was, you might actually have some understanding of the restraints placed on myself and others who have to try and make it all work somehow, out in the field..

Funding only plays a small part in what is going on. Even undermanned, fuel reductions goals could be reached with efficient planning a little elbow grease at ground level (conditions and timeframe permitted).

Put a cap on what can be reduced, when and where only makes it near impossible to achieve those goals and when the S#@t does hit the fan, it's the usually agencies themselves that get the blame for not being able to control the situation.
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posted on Jan, 3 2020 @ 12:11 AM
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originally posted by: continuousThunder

originally posted by: pheonix358
a reply to: harold223
The major problem has been green idiots preventing burning off because of bush animals.


god could you be any more obvious or pathetic in your regurgitation of tired murdoch press lies?
how can the greens be responsible for anything when they have NEVER held the balance of power? when, in fact, the coalition has been solidly in charge for the last how many years?

and either way whatever porkies you come back to that with are irrelevant, because this thread is about Scotty from marketing and how he snatched at some poor woman's hand and then ran a bloody mile when she asked for help, because he's not a leader, he was only there for a photo op.

nah let me guess, we should all calm down, forget that there are places burning now that have NEVER burned, and settle down to watch the cricket



If someone mentioned a green house or a green shed, would you start ranting?

So Green only applies to that useless mob of pollies who sit in the center?

Jesus, take you head out of the parliamentary sand please.

P



posted on Jan, 3 2020 @ 08:46 AM
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Australias climate has changed and it is from Total mismanagement of the environment. Not just back burning.




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