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posted on Nov, 23 2019 @ 01:28 AM
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a reply to: OzBoomer77

So now you are going to use ad hom and call me delusional because I don’t agree with socialism .. how typical.




posted on Nov, 23 2019 @ 01:56 AM
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originally posted by: OzBoomer77
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

wow did you take the delusional pills today.

single payer health care. no one else pays for it, you pay for it, the government runs it. you also have the option of getting private, yes I know Bernies health care plan doesn't do that but I also don't fully agree with his plan either. It's actually cheaper and better to have single payer health care but you are too blinded to even look up how it works in other countries. you just think that socialistic societies are the soviet union under stalin

America is in debt because the congress is not spending enough?? and because of the banks and welfare??? have you been watching alex jones??

www.washingtonpost.com...


There is certainly a conversation, hopefully a rational one to be had about healthcare in America. Personal, government funded single payer is the "nuts" just not going to happen without the worst tax increase we have seen in 5 decades.

That said, I agree whole heatedly that the medical system in America is broken but I will say I largely feel that way because our past American presidents didn't make the right deals. People in South America, Europe and the Middle East pay 1/8th in some case as what we do because the countries demanded that price point if the the drug was going to be sold there.

What did America get? The greatest country on Earth? Well, let me tell you....... The highest drug prices so that politicians and go between could suck up that extra money and blame it on insurance needs. It's a scam, a poorly thought out and implemented scam but you have to no choice but to play cause it's not a card game in 1879, you cant call bull# and shoot the person that is robbing you.

We have all been getting robbed for decades for medical treatment and drugs (Perception) This is being worked on right now but the Trump administration.
edit on 23-11-2019 by Helious because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 23 2019 @ 02:01 AM
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a reply to: Helious




I will say I largely feel that way because our past American presidents didn't make the right deals.

Since we're way off topic, there's this:
www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Nov, 23 2019 @ 02:14 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Helious




I will say I largely feel that way because our past American presidents didn't make the right deals.

Since we're way off topic, there's this:
www.abovetopsecret.com...


Yeah, I know the links, I have read the articles. I think we could both agree that "big pharma" is one of the universal problems that is hardest to overcome because they are prevalent in every nation on Earth because we depend on them to essentially stay alive.

What I am saying is that at the end of the day, no matter who is at the helm, these companies are already "to big to fail" you can't shut them down and you honestly can't even regulate them the way they should be, because, not many people can do what they do.

What you can do is push leverage the best way you can and if I am being honest, Obama never did that even as a passing thought. That said, neither did the presidents before him because it's a daunting task and a losing proposition especially if that was something you campaigned on.

There is simply too much money in the pharmaceutical industry to try to politically strong arm them into doing the right thing. I charge that from the drug makers to the distributors all the way down to the local state aid office that withholds medical treatment that isn't life threatening.

The fact is, we are starting to see the system change, for the first time since I can every remember being alive, that is a big deal. We have no solids yet, I will give you that but as compared to the Dems hopefulls, we may be able to save a few trillion dollars! lol



posted on Nov, 23 2019 @ 02:23 AM
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originally posted by: Helious
I think after the conclusions of today. There is obviously some serious problems with the Democrats attack on our president Donald Trump. I think these actions go beyond just due diligence and I think it has been a very directed, false attack based on political bias and easily provable lies, misdirection and manipulation.
What should be the charges for those that perpetrated this coup?


Lt. Colonel Alexander Vindman is looking at a court-martial. Lot's of evidence against him is arriving daily.

A U.S. Senator said this morning that Vindman broke National Security laws, by feeding information to Whistleblower Ciaramella. And that's just for starters!



posted on Nov, 23 2019 @ 02:27 AM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

no because you are wrong with what you are saying because you are too blinded to even consider it. that's why you're delusional



posted on Nov, 23 2019 @ 02:27 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Helious
I think after the conclusions of today. There is obviously some serious problems with the Democrats attack on our president Donald Trump. I think these actions go beyond just due diligence and I think it has been a very directed, false attack based on political bias and easily provable lies, misdirection and manipulation.
What should be the charges for those that perpetrated this coup?


Lt. Colonel Alexander Vindman is looking at a court-martial. Lot's of evidence against him is arriving daily.

A U.S. Senator said this morning that Vindman broke National Security laws, by feeding information to Whistleblower Ciaramella. And that's just for starters!


Just wait till this all shakes out! When you make uneducated bets with currency you can't afford to lose, things more often than not end badly.

This fact will be crystal clear by the end of the year.



posted on Nov, 23 2019 @ 02:40 AM
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a reply to: Helious

Well said. The liberal media is VERY FRUSTRATED because Trump/Barr/Durham/Pompeo/Horowitz/Huber are investigating the Bidens, DNC/Hillary 2016 election meddling, and will be working hard the rest of this year.

But the media darling U.S. House has only EIGHT MORE DAYS in session for 2019.

Source: www.rollcall.com...


edit on 11/23/2019 by carewemust because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 23 2019 @ 11:59 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

what about this nunes crap going on. Now they are trying to say he went to personally visit some Ukes. and even got another person willing to say anything like cohen to save his neck.



posted on Nov, 23 2019 @ 12:46 PM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: tetra50

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: tetra50

Most of your post has very little, if any bearing on Ukraine and impeachment of Trump. Looks like you’ve bought into all these testimonials about the welfare of Ukraine hook line and sinker. As I posted, Dr Hill is an operative of Sorus’ OSI, member of the CFR, and involved with Brookings. Not to mention her own handwriting says she is British Nationality, and she worked for years with the British spy Christopher Steele, so do you think I trust her over our POTUS ? Not a freakin chance. If I were you I’d get a better understanding of the real intent of these players. After all this IS a conspiracy site.


Supporting the current president no matter how unfit he has proved himself to be is definitely no representation to "conspiracy." And, oh yeah, I made way more than one post, and they were really all about conspiracy, so that right there, I can't pay much attention to the rest of what you've pointed out, as that is so off the mark.
LOL
your reply is unintelligent. Try again. What does “representation to conspiracy” mean? How can someone be a “representation to conspiracy?” This is a conspiracy website and this particular conspiracy theory relates to the operations of the Deep State and Shadow Government, both of which Trump is the hated outsider. I hope you will
Begin to figure that out, but it looks like you want your totalitarian slave owners. Thanks and have a good day/night/whatever time of day it is there.


So sorry to disappoint with my intelligence level. And the "to conspiracy," was a typo of "to," instead of, "of."
I find your willingness to accept him casting himself as a "hated ousider" equally disappointing. If you characterize any of what I've written to extrapolate from it that I, therefore, embrace "totalitarina slave owners," there may be definite issues of reading comprehension going on. I simply see Trump as part of the global rise in totalianarism, which you obviously, don't.

If you wish to disagree, I have no issue with that. But I do deeply resent the mischaracterization of what I have taken the time to write.
tetra



posted on Nov, 24 2019 @ 12:12 AM
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The media and the party they cover for are funded by entities that seek opportunity in division and decline. As Trump pushed Russian assets out and ran China into the ground over trade the checks arent coming like they used to and these crybaby bitchfaces created a world full of snitches that are turning on them. We are literally watching the implosion of another communist state and its media, political and education assets in the states.



posted on Nov, 25 2019 @ 06:01 PM
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Congress has wasted valuable time — at our expense — that should have been used productively instead of going after Trump. I’ve never seen anything like it in my 63 years. They think he’s the worst internal threat to America since the South seceded, yet they’re the ones seeking to transform the greatest nation that has ever existed! The MSM, schools, entertainment industry, social media, the judiciary, Democratic politicians and their RINO enablers have done a fine job of subverting our nation such that it’s barely recognizable from its peak of greatness only 70 years ago.



posted on Nov, 26 2019 @ 01:11 AM
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a reply to: MonkeyFishFrog

Really?... what corruption are you talking about? The ones those like you want to ignore from your corrupt socialist, i mean democrat party?...

NO proof of Trump or anyone in his campaign colluded with Russia...
NO proof POTUS Trump wanted to deport all immigrants...
NO proof that POTUS Trump use quid pro quo, or committed any crimes...

But you go ahead and continue with this farce meanwhile the greatest POTUS this country has seen in a long while has made the economy better, has increased employment and decreased unemployment, including of minorities, to record levels, etc, etc,...

People like you are the same types of deranged leftists that cheered meanwhile left-wing dictators murdered people without trials...



posted on Nov, 26 2019 @ 01:16 AM
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originally posted by: operation mindcrime
a reply to: Helious

Yeah why won't a guy like Giuliani just take a few minutes of his time to point out these "easy provable lies" and clear everything up...??

Peace


It's already been done...unless you fell asleep meanwhile Republicans asked the right questions to every socialist/democrat witness, and the answers from Schiff's witnesses were: NO PROOF OF CRIMES, NO EVIDENCE OF WRONGDOING...

Go and eat your peace. Peace for you and demonrats now means criminalizing the political opposition just for being political opponents.










edit on 26-11-2019 by ElectricUniverse because: correct comment.



posted on Nov, 26 2019 @ 01:44 AM
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originally posted by: tetra50
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You won't meet with a new Ukranian president, fighting for its sovereignity from Russia, but you'll abandon Syria, being bombed by Russia, in bed with Turkey, etc. But you will go to N. Korea and meet with Kim whatever. HUh.
...


What in the world are you talking about?... First, The Ukrainian President himself stated no pressure and Trump did nothing wrong... in fact it was the Ukrainians whom first wanted to give the Trump administration evidence of the previous Ukrainian administration being in bed with the Obama administration to affect the U.S. 2016 election, and it was them whom first stated they have evidence that the corruption with Burisma included the Bidens...



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Sworn statements from two Ukrainian officials admitting that their agency tried to influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election in favor of Hillary Clinton. The effort included leaking an alleged ledger showing payments to then-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort;

Contacts between Democratic figures in Washington and Ukrainian officials that involved passing along dirt on Donald Trump;

Financial records showing a Ukrainian natural gas company routed more than $3 million to American accounts tied to Hunter Biden, younger son of then-Vice President Joe Biden, who managed U.S.-Ukraine relations for the Obama administration. Biden’s son served on the board of a Ukrainian natural gas company, Burisma Holdings;

Records that Vice President Biden pressured Ukrainian officials in March 2016 to fire the prosecutor who oversaw an investigation of Burisma Holdings and who planned to interview Hunter Biden about the financial transfers;

Correspondence showing members of the State Department and U.S. Embassy in Kiev interfered or applied pressure in criminal cases on Ukrainian soil;

Disbursements of as much as $7 billion in Ukrainian funds that prosecutors believe may have been misappropriated or taken out of the country, including to the United States.

Ukrainian officials say they don’t want to hand the evidence to FBI agents working in Ukraine because they believe the bureau has a close relationship with the NABU and the U.S. Embassy. “It is no secret in Ukrainian political circles that the NABU was created with American help and tried to exert influence during the U.S. presidential election,” Kulyk told me.
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thehill.com...

BTW, Russia didn't bomb Syria because Syria is an ally of Russia... And what "in bed with Turkey" are you talking about?... Trump didn't side with either Turkey or the Kurds because both are supposed to be our allies... As for North Korea?... you wanted us to start a war with them that have nukes and are as paranoid as the left in the U.S.?


originally posted by: tetra50
So the whole thing has been prosecuted and proved their was Russian influence going on in the 2016 election you friggin WON, already.


What in the world are you talking about? First of all, the claim that "it was the Russians" came from a dodgy cyber security firm, Crowdstrike, which has LIED and was paid by Hillary/the DNC.

Crowdstrike released another "intelligence report" in which they claimed the same Russians that hacked the DNC also hacked Ukraine's artillery units... But Ukrainian authorities themselves stated this attack NEVER HAPPENED... Even the intelligence agency that Crowdstrike used as a source, IISS, stated Crowdstrike pretty much invented the whole thing, and their intelligence never found proof of what Crowdstrike claimed...


...
“The CrowdStrike report uses our data, but the inferences and analysis drawn from that data belong solely to the report’s authors,” the IISS said. “The inference they make that reductions in Ukrainian D-30 artillery holdings between 2013 and 2016 were primarily the result of combat losses is not a conclusion that we have ever suggested ourselves, nor one we believe to be accurate.
...

CrowdStrike Revises Russian Hack Into Ukrainian Artillery

Ukraine’s military technical advisor Pavlo Narozhnyy stated:


“I personally know hundreds of gunmen in the war zone,” Narozhnyy told VOA in December. “None of them told me of D-30 losses caused by hacking or any other reason.
...


CrowdStrike Revises Russian Hack Into Ukrainian Artillery

Ukraine's Minister of Defense himself also denied the whole thing...

Ukraine's military denies Russian hack attack

So you obviously have no idea of what you are talking about.


originally posted by: tetra50
But you're so ego driven you can't get off twitter, shut your mouth, have some grace and then you got CAUGHT redhanded after a special counselor cleared you of collusion of very obviously participating in a pay to play scam putting Ukranians under pressure for your political gain.
...
R ant over.
tetra50


ROFLMAO... What are you talking about?... Republicans asked EVERY WITNESS if "they saw any evidence, or could give any evidence of quid pro quo, or ANY wrongdoing by POTUS Trump, and they all said NO...

Perhaps you should start a rant with yourself... You are confusing facts, with lies and you claim the POTUS is to blame for you believing lies, and for your own confusion?...



edit on 26-11-2019 by ElectricUniverse because: add and correct comment.



posted on Nov, 26 2019 @ 01:52 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

It's already been done...unless you fell asleep



Wait...you are responding to 5 day old posts and are asking if I fell asleep?

Obviously you got some backlog and I'll leave you to it but can I suggest eating a Snickers? You sound awfully angry for a hobbit...

Peace



posted on Nov, 26 2019 @ 01:57 AM
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originally posted by: operation mindcrime

Wait...you are responding to 5 day old posts and are asking if I fell asleep?

Obviously you got some backlog and I'll leave you to it but can I suggest eating a Snickers? You sound awfully angry for a hobbit...

Peace


ROFLMAO... Me angry?... It is people like you making up lies because you are angry "Orange man is still POTUS", and people like you want him to pay for things he never did... BTW, I already ate, so perhaps it is you whom needs a "snickers"?



posted on Nov, 26 2019 @ 02:11 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Me and my people understand that lumping everybody who doesn't agree with your point of view together makes it easier for you to express your frustration but it's not really mature and kind of makes you look a bit silly..

But we understand...

Peace



posted on Nov, 26 2019 @ 02:20 AM
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a reply to: OzBoomer77

You've been looking at this site for 20 years but contributed nothing, then get on your high horse advocating socialism and criticising those of us on the right.

Personally i think you should have continued observing rather than taking part in the discussions as your post is so uninformed and poorly constructed i don't even know where to start picking it apart.

The same people that were here 20 years ago are still here now, it's just people i would describe as critical thinkers are disturbed by the rise of authoritarian socialism in our countries. Countries that were built on the backs of things such as free speech, free enterprise and judeo-christian values and morals.



posted on Nov, 26 2019 @ 09:04 PM
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a reply to: operation mindcrime

If you don't want to be lumped with the "never Trump crowd" whom make up lies constantly, then use your brain matter a bit more and realize what is actually happening... Schiff, Pelosi,, et al have been lying to you all in the left. Yet you all continue to fall for their lies. Do you not understand that Schiff, Pelosi, et al have denied the POTUS and his counsel due process?... Do you not see why Schiff denied all witnesses Republicans requested?... Neither Schiff, Pelosi, or the other socialists passing for democrats have ANY evidence of President Trump doing anything wrong, or illegal.

Schiff's witnesses themselves had to admit there is no such evidence, and instead they are relying on their own biased opinions, and assumptions that"Trump must have done something bad..." But the only thing he has done is change tactics as it's his right as POTUS... If you continue to fall for this Schiff/Pelosi charade people will continue to lump you with the brainless zombie hordes of the left, and so will I.




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