At least 6 hurt in Southern California high school shooting

Also it was reported the weapon used was a hand gun and was empty.
Has the type of hand gun been disclosed yet? Because if it was a revolver?
They only hold six shells at the most.

originally posted by: carsforkids
Also it was reported the weapon used was a hand gun and was empty.
Has the type of hand gun been disclosed yet? Because if it was a revolver?
They only hold six shells at the most.

I read he used a .45.

originally posted by: carsforkids
Also it was reported the weapon used was a hand gun and was empty.
Has the type of hand gun been disclosed yet? Because if it was a revolver?
They only hold six shells at the most.

It was a semi-automatic hand gun that was empty when inspected... according to the news briefing by authorities I saw when I first got home from work.

So, it seems he had limited ammunition (and probably firepower) available to him.

a reply to: Edumakated

Not many 45 caliber revolvers out there now is there? lol

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Sheye

Hell, this may be prom related for all we know.

We’re not teaching our kids how to cope.

Exactly. The social experiment of coddling and everyone is special does NOT prepare these young minds for small disappointments in life (like losing a game, not getting that trophy, breakup with a girl/guy/whatever, etc...). So when they get smacked in the face with reality as a young adult (or late teen), then experience a big disappointment (don't get the job they wanted, realize that they signed a contract enslaving them with crushing debt, etc...) they do not have the tools to handle it and snap.

We should consider this global social experiment a failure, and a deadly one at that.

Is America the only country that molycoddle their kids, because regular mass school shootings don't seem to happen outside of the U.S.

Surely there's more to this than just lack of coping skills.

Society. European society is different than American society. Just as eastern societies are different that western societies. Why must we look for one single issue? Let me give you a tip, THERE IS NO SINGLE ISSUE CAUSING THIS. There are a variety of factors.

In many European countries, kids wold still be able to be punished by their parents for screwing up. America has lost sight of that.

In many eastern countries you are trained from birth to be part of the collective, and not to stand out. Those that are become shunned and in some cases, "disappear" from society. America was s a country of rugged individualism, until about the early 1970's. Then the idea of "it takes a village", punishment is bad for the self-esteem, began. Prior to that, parents were allowed to punish children.
Add in the disconnect from new social media technologies that provide relative anonymity for people to spew their hate, and that adds to this rapidly festering pot of stew.

Here in Australia were not allowed to punish our kids either, yet we don't have the shootings.

Also you will find that yours views on Europeans growing up as a collective is incorrect.

No doubt there are multiple factors as to why this is happening in the U.S.

Because if it was a revolver?
They only hold six shells at the most.

There are a few with a cylinder that holds more then 6.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

If you read my earlier post?

You should have seen what I saw this morning I couldn't help
but shake my and wonder why these events always look so Gawd
damn fake.

I couldn't make any sense of it all. It looked like a fire drill. With
everyone lined up against the fence for target practice. And the shooter
still at large?

originally posted by: roadgravel

Because if it was a revolver?
They only hold six shells at the most.

There are a few with a cylinder that holds more then 6.

I thought so but I wasn't gonna say it not being sure.

a reply to: Edumakated

I actually agree with you other than what you consider to be freedom, you have no more freedom in the U.S than anywhere else in the western world, in fact I would consider having so many people with easy access to firearms the anthitheseis of freedom, to me it seems more like a self inflicted prison where even the cops look at everyone as a potential armed criminal.

a reply to: LSU2018

I think people have changed, there's a plethora of reasons why, my mates dad who's a cop told us that 30 years ago was common for 2 guys to have a fight, then buy each other a beer afterward, these days you get stabbed in the back.

There's a distinct lack of respect and honour that also adds to this mess .

originally posted by: roadgravel

Because if it was a revolver?
They only hold six shells at the most.

There are a few with a cylinder that holds more then 6.

.22s and .38s aren't they? smaller caliber?

originally posted by: carsforkids
a reply to: Subaeruginosa

And the shooter still at large?

I don't know what your definition of "at large" is, but he obviously shot himself in the head when he was on his last round... lying on the ground with a bullet in the head doesn't sound like any definition of "at large" as I understand it

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Did you read my previous post?

Watched this unfold this morning on the local news.
Early on with choppers from three networks over head.
Police marching kids out in fire drill fashion. Clearly not
upset all texting on their phones as well was a single officer
bring'n up the rear texting.

Reporters in the choppers at the same time for more than an hour
reporting " The police are saying the shooter fled the scene" the
Shooter is at large.

While the cops are lining these kids up outside the school along
a fence. With the shooter still at large supposedly. This went on
redundantly for at least an hour. No shooter in custody is what
the police were saying in radio coms according to reporters
in the air.

Then they switch from the air and go to ground news crews and
suddenly the shooter was dead. Shot himself in the quad area.
Outside. In the middle of the school where the news choppers
were just flying overhead.

Figure that one out yourselves.

Social media is a large component today. But the old grapevine has a long history that was very efficient in our day. But that is why I included that little anecdote about the drum line. But the other part is that children are growing up unable to have self expression or adulation from their peers for individuality. Which was the real meat of my words. Children and teenagers lack guidance to their explorations, which is how we grow safely with responsible mentors.

No wonder things are lapsing into collectivist socialism politically, because there is no self expression or individuality there at all.

a reply to: carsforkids

Figure that one out yourselves.

Inaccurate early reports maybe?

IDK, I'm happy to proven wrong dude. But from what I understand he was apprehended on site with a gun shot wound to the head and his weapon was empty on inspection.

Which would indicate this was simply a murder suicide and he was at least lucid enough to keep track of how much rounds he had left.

a reply to: carsforkids

I know of .357 which also fires .38

a reply to: carsforkids

.22lr, .38 special, .357 magnum, and pretty sure there is a .44 magnum with more than six rounds. A .380, 9mm, .38 and .357 are all the same diameter. There are revolvers that will do a 9mm and in theory could use a .380 but check and be sure. All .357 revolvers will take .38 special, but not all .38 can use a .357 round (but they will fit).

There is a world of difference in power from a .22 short, .22lr, .22 magnum, and 22 Hornet in that order from least to most. And those are just standard loads. There are special loads as well that will change that order somewhat. All can be found in a revolver made for that round. Semi auto pistols as well, except the 22 Hornet (they tend to be mostly bolt action rifles or single shot breach loaders when not in a revolver.

If it was a .45, most likely a 1911 variant holding 7-8 rounds. There are other .45 styles. And yes there are revolvers in .45 Auto. Most are .45 Long Colt, though.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

And what do you make of the choppers flying over the school for
an hour? With nothing like a body taped off, no site of an investigation
going on anywhere. No sign of anyone being shot any where on school
grounds. And radio coms by police saying the suspect was no longer
on the school grounds? According crews in the air showing us the
entire scene at the school from above. Then not more then five
minutes after they switch to ground crew. The story changes to
he shot himself right there on school grounds?

I'm not making any conclusions no matter no way. But that was some
crazy shlt to see. There was no sign of anything like a suicide outside on
those school grounds what so ever. I'm still shaken my head.

This sounds serious, almost as bad as cars.

Around 1,700 children under 16 years old arekilled annually in car crashes, with an additional 240,000 children injured

originally posted by: carsforkids
a reply to: Subaeruginosa

And what do you make of the choppers flying over the school for
an hour? With nothing like a body taped off, no site of an investigation
going on anywhere. No sign of anyone being shot any where on school
grounds. And radio coms by police saying the suspect was no longer
on the school grounds? According crews in the air showing us the
entire scene at the school from above. Then not more then five
minutes after they switch to ground crew. The story changes to
he shot himself right there on school grounds?

I'm personally going to stick with my original interpretation of inaccurate early reports, in the heat of the moment.

But what do you make of it?

Feel free to be creative... I do love a good conspiracy theory.