a reply to: Leighthall
I think you're right, and we need to reconsider these posts. And the very real possibility -- probability? -- that Epstein was switched out. Having
gone over all the posts in the 4/chan thread again, and doing a little more research, and with the benefit of hindsight, I am now leaning toward the
first poster -- the OP -- being a plant to establish (and prop up) the as-yet-unconfirmed narrative that Epstein is dead, caused by cardiac arrest,
but unable to determine if this is secondary to hanging or strangulation. I also expect that the manner of death -- e.g., suicide or homicide -- will
ultimately be deemed "inconclusive" or "undetermined" by the Medical Examiner.
This is the post in question:
ID:swam8WlF Sat 10 Aug 2019 05:44:55 No.222520257 -- Not saying anything after this pls do not try to dox me but last night after 0415 count they
took him medical in a wheelchair front cuffed but not 1 triage nurse says they spoke to him. Next thing we know a trip van shows up? We do not do
releases on the weekends unless a judge orders it. Next thing we know, he's put in a single man cell and hangs himself? Heres the thing, the trip van
did NOT sign in and we did not record the plate number and a guy in a green dress military outfit was in the back of the van according to the tower
guy who let him thru the gate. You guys i am shaking right now but i think they switched him out.
These next posts purport to be the initial poster, but have a different ID:
ID:A+26hc3Z Sat 10 Aug 2019 06:08:22 -- You guys I thought this was a joke thread, I made all this up. Im sorry for the bullsh** info, I
thought OP was full of # and I'm bored at work so I typed this out for the kek responses. He really is dead, just saw on CNN. MODS plz delete my 1st
post I don't want to be a part of a false narrative. I do not work for any NY prison or law enforcement.
ID:UdlXN59v Sat 10 Aug 2019 06:26:19 -- It is bullsh**, im using incognito mode so everytime I post its a diff IP if I close the window out,
trying to delete
ID:UdlXN59v Sat 10 Aug 2019 06:27:21 -- Im trying but it just says in red "something went wrong"
Its cause I'm in ingonito mode. F***, the 1 time I'm larping and it bites me in the ass.
ID:9KMojQ8U Sat 10 Aug 2019 06:35:18 -- Why is this comment still up?? MAWDSSSSS I said it's all BS get rid of it! Mods mods mods its fake, I
posted it be4 it was confirmed he was dead. Total LARP
ID:U82kr97m Sat 10 Aug 2019 06:39:35 -- OP was correct. The comment about the unknown trip van switching him out at the prison was my dumbass
thinking OP was on BS and I was just LARPing. Trouble is, I use incognito mode so my IP constantly changes, so I can't delete my orig comment. I
marked it for mods, but it's still up. I apologize again for the misinformation, and I do not want this to be part of some vast conspiracy.
ID:6F0rv8VZ Sat 10 Aug 2019 06:59:12 -- Nope, not a word of it is true. I'm 1,000 miles away from NY. Just having some kek before I knew JE
really was dead and this thread would be archived and gone over with a fine tooth comb by intelligence angencies. I'm f***ed, but at least I convinced
a few normies of a fake conspiracy along the way.
Note that the posts @ 6:26 and 6:27 have the same ID; otherwise all have different IDs than each other and the original post.
The following are the responses which question or refute the posters various posts:
05:58:42 -- OP's a shill, but this n*****'s for real.
06:03:02 -- Tower guards and gate crew are two different jobs, Anon. They don't switch
06:16:52 -- You can delete your own posts you know
06:14:51 -- Different ID from OP, but he's still posting with it after this comment, so he didn't switch devices or vpns. I'm calling bull#.
06:26:24 -- someone call this f****** guy at the tower / gate and find out
call everyone on shift
06:36:43 -- You're making me think it's true.
06:45:29 -- you know that incognito mode does nothing, right?
your default gateway remains the same.
06:50:16 -- incognito doesnt change your id you f****** lying k***
I find it very odd that the OP never responds to the second poster (who I'll refer to as "SP"). The OP has six posts in the thread, the initial post
and five responses to other posters. The OP's last post is at 5:47, three minutes after the SP's initial post. Granted, the news broke within
minutes of the OP's last post, but the OP disappears -- no gloating, no "I told you so," no nothing. Just poof! Gone.
I also find it odd that the SP starts the post with "Not saying anything after this..." If the SP was "bored" and wanted to play, why wouldn't the SP
want to say more? That sounds more like someone who is legitimately freaked out, both by what happened and by finding the OP. But then someone(s)
with different IDs claiming
to be the SP comes back to deny their post and expresses concern that the Feds will come after them... for what?
If it's all a LARP, and there's no truth to it, then why would the Feds care? Wouldn't the Feds only go after the SP if their post was in fact true
and revealing the truth they didn't want publicly known?
Rather, I think the "SPs" dost protest too much. That one post threatened the oh-so-carefully planned switching out of Epstein, and the cover story
being planted for later confirmation by "official" reports. It had to be discredited and debunked and denounced and denied. But it wasn't done by
the SP. It was done by those who planted the story via the OP. Hence the different IDs.
Further, this little tidbit here is very specific (and random) for a LARP:
...last night after 0415 count they took him medical in a wheelchair front cuffed but not 1 triage nurse says they spoke to him.
Wheelchair? Not a gurney? Not on his own two feet? Seems pretty random unless it's true.... perhaps because Epstein was drugged for the exchange
and unable to walk on his own two feet? Perhaps Epstein was drugged so that he would not know (and could not identify) who was making this switch?
And/or so that Epstein would not know where he was being taken?
And, of course, as you noted, the SP notes that Epstein was returned to a "single man cell" in the form of a question, which infers that Epstein was
NOT alone in his cell prior to this. We now know that Epstein's cellmate was bailed out sometime Friday and that Epstein was in fact alone in his
cell. How would the SP know that Epstein wasn't still on suicide watch and in the suicide watch block? Just a guess? Pretty good guess.
The SP's last sentence also indicates that the SP doesn't believe Epstein was returned to a cell:
You guys i am shaking right now but i think they switched him out.
In fact, the SP is pretty much saying that it isn't Epstein who was found in that cell, but someone else -- in direct contradiction to the OP.
I don't understand how IDs work on 4/chan, but other 4/chan posters (who presumably do understand) state the IDs would not change in incognito mode or
with a VPN, etc.
One final thought: I did consider that Epstein might have had friends break him out, or that enemies had him kidnapped, but if that had happened, the
Feds would know and would not be perpetuating the "apparent suicide" story. I'm thinking Witness Protection.
I'm out of characters, but I would appreciate your thoughts...