Convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein dead

originally posted by: Boadicea

originally posted by: CynConcepts
a reply to: Boadicea

Interesting. Is it possible that they actually transported Epstein to Gitmo? Faking his death in hopes to appease the public and laws of justice but want to get more out of him via torture?

Interesting thought... very intriguing. But I would think that would be more likely if they thought he was working for someone else... a foreign intel agency? Mossad? Perhaps he was double-crossing our intel agencies and that's why he was arrested again, with new charges?

That would actually explain much.

No one would know, he would be off the radar. Would our government actually do this? Would our government believe that the world may not be able to handle the truths that a trial would reveal but these truths would enable them to use within their own intelligence and agenda?

I'm gonna say anything's possible at this point. Probable? Likely? I don't know.

Oo...its getting really speculative now.. I bite too...

Having people like Clinton on his best behaviour on such an island. With all possibillities to record his illegal activities and blackmail his ass from here to tokio I bet Epstein was working for the Mossad..being the trash that he is probably for the chineese and russians too. The man likes money...doesn't he.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin It didn't take Herman Goering much effort to persuade and American Soldier to sneak in poison so he would not have to hang at Nuremburg.

originally posted by: ServiusTull
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin It didn't take Herman Goering much effort to persuade and American Soldier to sneak in poison so he would not have to hang at Nuremburg.

Very plausible, since it’s being reported that the jail is understaffed and the guards are all working overtime.

True? Dunno, obviously. But worth keeping in mind.

originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: ServiusTull
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin It didn't take Herman Goering much effort to persuade and American Soldier to sneak in poison so he would not have to hang at Nuremburg.

Very plausible, since it’s being reported that the jail is understaffed and the guards are all working overtime.

True? Dunno, obviously. But worth keeping in mind.

No doubt a corrupt guard could have been involved

And I also have no doubt some low level person or people will be the fall guys

But make no mistake, the fbi is responsible for this

They knew how big this case was, they let Epstein go with a slap on the wrist in the past

And they knew his life was in danger, as was evidenced by the attempt on his life weeks ago

So they should have done everything possible in there piwer ensure he was completely safe and constantly surveilled

But they didn’t because they are incompetent or corrupt

The fbi needs to be held accountable, and seeing as how this is just another in a long line of “screwups” by them, I feel they should be disbanded

a reply to: TheUnforgiven

Just to the right of the orange bag, right at the corner of the rail. It's the white roll.

His knees are on top of the blanket.

originally posted by: zatara

Oo...its getting really speculative now.. I bite too...

Having people like Clinton on his best behaviour on such an island. With all possibillities to record his illegal activities and blackmail his ass from here to tokio I bet Epstein was working for the Mossad..being the trash that he is probably for the chineese and russians too. The man likes money...doesn't he.

That sure sounds like Epstein! Why settle for one when you could have many?

Or, perhaps, Epstein's intel activities were discovered by a foreign power he had been working, and Epstein had to be taken out of service so to speak -- thus the arrest to get him off the streets and protect him.

Just thinking out loud here...

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

You must be kidding.



The white roll is directly below his butt. There are no legs or knees.

Are you aware that between butt and knees there are supposed to be upper legs? It doesnt seem you are.

The simplest answer is most likely true - they just allowed the guy to kill himself. Nothing neccessary beyond some time and space.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: TheUnforgiven

Just to the right of the orange bag, right at the corner of the rail. It's the white roll.

His knees are on top of the blanket.

Perhaps do a search on paramedic emt intubating training dummies. Interesting how most are only an upper torso. No legs!

Mind you. I am of the belief the photographer photoshopped for his own notoriety. Especially since if he didn't the fact this is a dummy torso used for training causes too many more questions!

a reply to: TheUnforgiven

So what are you suggesting...that the person on the gurney had no legs? Or, that they are a midget with a big head?

Forgive me, there are a lot of credible things to be questioning about this whole ordeal, but the legless imposter doesn't rank very high on this list, not my list anyway. So, I'm not going to spend a whole lot of time worrying about it.

If they wanted to do a swap with Epstein then there are 10,000 ways they could have done this...without a legless mannequin or a photoshop job.

Now, if you want something to really ask questions about, then how about these...

1. Who took the picture? And, how did they get to that position to take the picture? It's not like this was the front door.

2. How did they know to be there at this exact moment to take the picture? Surely there would have been an LEO escort for this particular prisoner, so why didn't they clear the area? It's not like they'd just let a bunch of reporters just loiter around the emergency entrance waiting for Epstein to show up.

3. To the 'legless' / photoshop theories...don't you think if the person who took this picture saw a legless mannequin or an empty gurney they would have said something by now? And, if it really was a different person, then why were they there to take the picture to begin with?

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I see just ignore the blatant no legs and my debunk of your "analysis".

3. To the 'legless' / photoshop theories...don't you think if the person who took this picture saw a legless mannequin or an empty gurney they would have said something by now? And, if it really was a different person, then why were they there to take the picture to begin with?

......., if this is photoshopped like it appears, then there would be no photographer noticing Epsteins missing legs, would there. Sheesh.

I don't know. Maybe it really was a dummy, but why?

Why not just throw a sheet over his head and call him dead. People are pronounced dead at the scene all the time. Why risk it? Then there would have beena picture of a gurney with a body on it with a sheet over its head. Case closed.

Why such an elaborate ruse?

a reply to: TheUnforgiven

Okay, guess what?

Let's just go with your theory. It's a legless dummy which has been photoshopped.

I'm really done with this theory because I think it's just silly. Believe what you want to believe.

Doesn't matter what I think anyway.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Because a good narrative needs a juicy and convenient pic. It helps the dummies blindly accept the story.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
I don't know. Maybe it really was a dummy, but why?

Why not just throw a sheet over his head and call him dead. People are pronounced dead at the scene all the time. Why risk it? Then there would have beena picture of a gurney with a body on it with a sheet over its head. Case closed.

Why such an elaborate ruse?

A photo of just a body covered by a sheet would only increase speculation that it could've been ANY dead body...and not JE.

Think about it folks, if someone really wanted to make Epstein disappear, then why go to all this effort.

Just send some guards into his cell, say they're moving him, load him up in a truck and be done with it. Then just issue a press release saying he hung himself and the ME confirmed it. No pictures...just done. Case closed.

Occam's razor and all.

a reply to: TheUnforgiven

Okay then...that's what happened.

Seems to me, someone on the inside of the prison likely was paid load of cash to look the other way and mess with the cameras.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
I don't know. Maybe it really was a dummy, but why?

Why not just throw a sheet over his head and call him dead. People are pronounced dead at the scene all the time. Why risk it? Then there would have beena picture of a gurney with a body on it with a sheet over its head. Case closed.

Why such an elaborate ruse?

Perhaps because the photographer used a couple of stock photos of FDNY paramedics and EMTs in training to photoshop. Why? To be the only one with the historical pics. Notoriety naturally!

Edit add: No elaborate conspiratorial ruse necessary. Just media manipulations to seem like they were there first. Unfortunately, such deceit has created even more chaos than if there were no pics.

I keep reading in this and other threads that the cameras weren't working but I haven't seen any real confirmation of this. Do we know the latest info on the cameras??