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Ancient Aliens Debunked Documentary

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posted on Jul, 17 2019 @ 02:02 PM
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originally posted by: neutronflux

Yeap. Your a flat earther.

Ok. Then prove there is only life on earth. There is still in all probability life in other solar systems. You cannot say life doesn’t exist outside earth without exploring all the possibilities.

Again. You are confusing problems of distance and communication. The problem is not from a lack of habitable planets, and lack of possibilities.


I'm not confusing anything. I already stated that intelligent species might exist, just not in our present era.
That is why it would have to be a coincidence of timing, like I said.
A pretty big coincidence, once you accept that aliens we will never know about are equivalent to aliens that don't exist.
After your sermon on how big numbers get, consider the age of the universe.


originally posted by: neutronfluxSo? Then you have proof there is only life on earth? Or you only believe there is a likelihood of no life outside earth?

I'm talking about intelligent aliens, not bacteria. I stated that already as well.


originally posted by: neutronflux


So, it seems that you can't answer the question, and you don't understand my other point:
"There is no evidence that (fill in the blank) doesn't exist in other places."


It’s a false argument. The question cannot be fully answer until the whole universe is explored. Out of literally billions of planets, it only takes one planet other than earth with life to prove you wrong. I’ll take those odds any day.


You accuse me of a false argument, when it is YOU that said "There is no evidence that life doesn't exist in other places."
No evidence that life doesn't exist somewhere?
That's not only a false argument, that's a fallacy.
You committed exactly the same fallacy when you said "Then prove there is only life on earth."


originally posted by: neutronflux


For weak-minded buffoons, that means that we can substitute any term - such as "pogo stick riding ducks" for "intelligent aliens" and not lose one whit of logic.


Really? Coming from the person that made this statement?



And beyond all that, exactly what is the difference between there being no intelligent aliens and there being no intelligent aliens we will ever know about?


I guess you being a math teacher, it most really suck when you cannot intimidate people.....

How am I attempting to intimidate anyone? I'm making an argument here while being "countered" win non sequiturs and fallacies.


originally posted by: neutronflux
Now. Are you going to answer to: “Should we not use time and resources to look for life outside earth? And why?”

We are doing so as we speak. But, for the fifth time, I'm talking about intelligent alien life, not bacteria.


originally posted by: neutronfluxOr are you really a flat earther, and you believe there is nothing to explore? That would be the logical reason you assert there is only life on earth.

First the ad hominem, then the straw man argument.
Do you actually have anything intelligent to say, or do you simply blurt nonsense as a matter of course?

Harte




posted on Jul, 17 2019 @ 02:09 PM
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originally posted by: zatara
Who was first with the "alternative" view on history...Sitchin or von Daniken? Can it be possible that one of them has used the succes of the other to make some money with a fantastic story...based on a true story.


Von Daniken was before Sitchin, but neither was the first.
Here's an earlier work, probably the first written in the same type of format/style as later authors:
Morning of the Magicians

Harte



posted on Jul, 17 2019 @ 02:44 PM
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a reply to: Harte

In good faith, can you really say there is no evidence? It comes back to distance. What standard test would normally be ran to prove or disprove life on an exoplanet that would be meaningful to conduct on a planet 1000 light years away. So you are going to say there is no proven evidence of life on a proposed habitable planet 1000 light years away because of our limited perception and technology to run a test that is meaningful?

It’s like a blind man that only dreams in black and white saying there is no evidence of colors.

Or do you define if a species is intelligent solely on its ability to broadcast?

I still stand by my example:
In the past, we had a pretty good idea other stars had plants. In fact, it be right out stupid to assume our sun was the only star with planets. We didn’t have proof of other plants around distance stars until the right technological was developed. However, there was always other planets orbiting distance stars. The proof was always there, our perception had to grow to find the truth.

You get it now.....

And still stand by:
The question cannot be fully answered until the whole universe is explored. Out of literally billions of planets, it only takes one planet other than earth with life to prove you wrong. I’ll take those odds any day.



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posted on Jul, 18 2019 @ 05:00 AM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Harte

In good faith, can you really say there is no evidence? I


So, what evidence is there?



posted on Jul, 18 2019 @ 05:40 AM
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What reliable tests have been conducted that have produced conclusive results concerning the estimated 100 billion planets in our galaxy.

Would the below comparison be an exaggeration.

We can equate our search for extraterrestrial life at this point to someone saying a whole city is free of a flea infestation by examining a single fiber pulled from a single building’s carpet.



posted on Jul, 18 2019 @ 02:35 PM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
What reliable tests have been conducted that have produced conclusive results concerning the estimated 100 billion planets in our galaxy.

Would the below comparison be an exaggeration.

We can equate our search for extraterrestrial life at this point to someone saying a whole city is free of a flea infestation by examining a single fiber pulled from a single building’s carpet.


If the entire world consists just of the fibre then you can say we have no evidence for fleas. There is a possibility of fleas somewhere but at this time we have no evidence they exist.

You appear to be confusing possibility with plausibility and probability.

Is it possible that aliens exists? Yes
Is it possible that aliens don't exist? Yes

There is a lack of evidence to proceed beyond that.



posted on Jul, 18 2019 @ 10:16 PM
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originally posted by: Hanslune

originally posted by: neutronflux
What reliable tests have been conducted that have produced conclusive results concerning the estimated 100 billion planets in our galaxy.

Would the below comparison be an exaggeration.

We can equate our search for extraterrestrial life at this point to someone saying a whole city is free of a flea infestation by examining a single fiber pulled from a single building’s carpet.


If the entire world consists just of the fibre then you can say we have no evidence for fleas. There is a possibility of fleas somewhere but at this time we have no evidence they exist.

You appear to be confusing possibility with plausibility and probability.

Is it possible that aliens exists? Yes
Is it possible that aliens don't exist? Yes

There is a lack of evidence to proceed beyond that.


My other point is our technology is not adequate to began to give conclusive results of life concerns planets 1000s of light years away.



There is a lack of evidence to proceed beyond that.


What tests are we conducting on planets 1000s of lights away that can accurately determine there is a lack of evidence?

Is the sole determining factor if an alien race is intelligent if they can broadcast a detectable signal to earth?
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