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Amazon Bans Tommy Robinson’s Book, ‘Mohammed’s Koran’

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posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 10:37 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Xcalibur254

Stop wasting my time with crap.

aclu-co.org...

Private business aren't allowed to DISCRIMINATE against anyone.


I don’t know if that’s the case in America but in the U.K. it is perfectly responsible for amazon to do this.




posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 10:38 AM
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a reply to: neo96

It's amazing how many non-sequiturs you go through in a thread. We already went over this earlier in the thread. Sexual orientation is a protected class. A person being anti-Islam is not.

Now why don't you answer the question I posed in my last post?

If you're so vehemently opposed to the government placing restrictions on gun ownership why do you have no problem with them placing restrictions on what a company must sell?



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 10:38 AM
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a reply to: mobiusmale

I could be wrong, but aren't businesses required by law to treat everyone equally and if they don't, they can be fined or lose their business registration for multiple offences?

Cheers - Dave



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 10:40 AM
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originally posted by: bobs_uruncle
a reply to: mobiusmale

I could be wrong, but aren't businesses required by law to treat everyone equally and if they don't, they can be fined or lose their business registration for multiple offences?

Cheers - Dave


Nope, it’s up to them for the most part.

If they were discriminating against a protected characteristic they maybe but it depends on the case specifically.

Amazing can pick and chose what they sell just like the local corner shop can.



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 10:40 AM
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a reply to: bobs_uruncle

Ok, does a business have to sell every product made?..obviously not. They make decisions on what they will or will not sell. That is not discrimination..it's called a business decision!!



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 10:41 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Xcalibur254




So a site like ATS should be required by law to host any post no matter how repugnant and vile?


Really have no concept of free speech eh?


ATS has T's and C's that would see posts (and members) removed if they were violated. Not quite sure what your point is - if you disagree with ATS having the absolute right to so then why are you here?



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 10:43 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: neo96

It's funny how offended the alt-Right have become at the use of that term when they're the ones that coined it.


Maybe because people with different opinions are labeled incorrectly alt right or nazi or sexist or racist and it goes on and on.

Anyone who doesn't fall in line with the left is alt right.

I don't support censorship especially from massive Uber powerful companies that can control what people see and read without any oversight

So you really think these tech companies don't listen to outside political influences to make their decisions? Welcome to 1984 I just expected more resistance



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 10:45 AM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Xcalibur254

Stop wasting my time with crap.

aclu-co.org...

Private business aren't allowed to DISCRIMINATE against anyone.


I don’t know if that’s the case in America but in the U.K. it is perfectly responsible for amazon to do this.


The UK doesn't have free speech protected like in the US that's why people can get thrown in jail for hurting someone feelings or offending someone



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 10:47 AM
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originally posted by: JDmOKI

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Xcalibur254

Stop wasting my time with crap.

aclu-co.org...

Private business aren't allowed to DISCRIMINATE against anyone.


I don’t know if that’s the case in America but in the U.K. it is perfectly responsible for amazon to do this.


The UK doesn't have free speech protected like in the US that's why people can get thrown in jail for hurting someone feelings or offending someone


Nope that’s bolocks you cannot be sent to jail just for offending someone, if that were the case the entire county would be in jail. There is no such thing as absolute freedom of speech different countries draw the line differently and I would say America has less strict laws around this than the U.K. However this thread is about a U.K. issue is it’s UK law that matters.
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posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 10:47 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: gallop

So you would be fine if ATS allowed posts espousing the eradication of the Jews, blacks, gays, gypsies, etc?

What about posts discussing how to assassinate the President? Should ATS also be required to allow those?


Well, ATS has T&C's which people agree to when signing up. So, they'd already be in breach of those rules by posting such things.

Amazon had no issue with selling his book since 2017. Only now, after recent events, have they followed suit with all the other conglomerates in silencing him. If you can't see what is really happening, it's not because it isn't obvious. It's because you're purposely ignoring it. This is a dangerous precedent.

Now, care to explain what criticising islam has to do with eradicating jews, blacks, gays, gypsies, etc? Seems like you equate the two. And, strangely, hardcore islamic nations hold those concepts close.

Pisschrist... Nada..
Mohammod cartoon.. people across the planet die.

And if it's wrong to notice these things and point them out, or even try to discuss them, resulting in people being silenced, threatened and intimidated, then we're in for a very bad time.



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 10:48 AM
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a reply to: bobs_uruncle

There are certain protected classes in the US. These include: sex, race, religion, age, and sexual orientation. Laws and businesses cannot discriminate against these classes. Political affiliation is not a protected class. Nor is hatred of a minority.

Ask yourself this: If Amazon is required to sell Robinson's book, is Christianbook required to sell Kathy Griffin DVDs?



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 10:48 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Did you miss the kids getting cut in half, child brides,rape and the rest of the snip that goes on over in the middle east daily for over 1400 years?



So you want to read things that reinforce your bias and are upset that a retailer makes a decision not to associate themselves ith someone who is essentially a scumbag of the highest order?

Amazon have the right to sell or not sell any product they wish, they aren't actually under any obligation whatsoever to sell anything or even to the best of my knowledge give details as to why they choose not to sell particular products.

I thought you were so against socialism but it turns out at heart you really are very much one aren't you?
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posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 10:48 AM
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Dp
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posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 10:51 AM
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a reply to: gallop


Amazon had no issue with selling his book since 2017.


Please show me where in the Constitution businesses are prevented from changing their business model whenever they want.



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 10:52 AM
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a reply to: JDmOKI

Amazon is still selling Mein Kampf by Hitler.

Look it up, several sellers and versions.

Bezos is a selective smut peddler, but has the right to continue being the richest hypocrite on earth



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 10:53 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: gallop


Amazon had no issue with selling his book since 2017.


Please show me where in the Constitution businesses are prevented from changing their business model whenever they want.


Ok, so you refuse to see what is going on. That's on you. You're purposely being ignorant of the facts, and think this is fine and dandy.

When they come for ATS, wonder if you'll just head on over to GLP.



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 10:55 AM
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a reply to: Butterfinger

So if a small Jewish bookstore decided they wouldn't sell Mein Kampf but had no problem selling the Protocols of Zion, that then puts them under the purview of government regulation?

I'm just trying to figure out what the guidelines are for when the 1st Amendment doesn't apply.
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posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 10:56 AM
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originally posted by: JDmOKI

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Xcalibur254

Stop wasting my time with crap.

aclu-co.org...

Private business aren't allowed to DISCRIMINATE against anyone.


I don’t know if that’s the case in America but in the U.K. it is perfectly responsible for amazon to do this.


The UK doesn't have free speech protected like in the US that's why people can get thrown in jail for hurting someone feelings or offending someone


That's just the kind of nonsense that gets posted on ATS from people who not only don't know what they are talking about, but don't bother to look up the details prior to posting. Hate speech that can get you into problems with the law in the UK are defined very specifically around advocation of violence against a group of society, making credible threats of violence against particular individuals etc.

You may think in some really weird way America is morally superior but scratch the surface of your 'free speech' rights and you'll find that actually they are not all inclusive.

Not quite sure what this has to do with a retailer deciding not to sell a particular product though.



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 10:59 AM
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a reply to: gallop

What I see going on is people that religiously defend the Constitution and are very opposed to government regulation demanding that the government step in and prevent a business from operating how they see fit.
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posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 11:00 AM
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originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: JDmOKI

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Xcalibur254

Stop wasting my time with crap.

aclu-co.org...

Private business aren't allowed to DISCRIMINATE against anyone.


I don’t know if that’s the case in America but in the U.K. it is perfectly responsible for amazon to do this.


The UK doesn't have free speech protected like in the US that's why people can get thrown in jail for hurting someone feelings or offending someone


That's just the kind of nonsense that gets posted on ATS from people who not only don't know what they are talking about, but don't bother to look up the details prior to posting. Hate speech that can get you into problems with the law in the UK are defined very specifically around advocation of violence against a group of society, making credible threats of violence against particular individuals etc.

You may think in some really weird way America is morally superior but scratch the surface of your 'free speech' rights and you'll find that actually they are not all inclusive.

Not quite sure what this has to do with a retailer deciding not to sell a particular product though.


Exactly because hate speech is different to alot of people. In the US you can say what you want as long as you don't harass or promote violence. It's a beautiful thing



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