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At what point is this just over the top.
originally posted by: Grambler
One of the problems with our cultures rush to outrage and seeking to dig up past words or photos to take down political enemies is that we forget that there is nuance in most situations.
So take the meetoo movement. Some people treat an awkward hug on a date with actual sexual violence like rape. This unfairly tars the awkward person as a terrible person, and diminishes the crimes of the actual rapists or sexual assaulter.
The new focus on "blackface" is doing that as well.
In this video I show pictures of all of the different stages of what is now lumped in as "blackface", and I show why it is bad to forgo nuance and lump these all together.
Now normally I know many people dont like watching the video and prefer just reading the thread, but I have so many pictures on the video that it would make it tough to post them all on this thread.
The jist of the video for those that cant watch is that even when we take all politics out of it, there seems to be a lack of nuance in being upset about "blackface"
And so we have everything for actual minstrel show type blackface designed to be racist towards blacks, to people wearing that minstrel show paint to mock minstreal shows, to painting up to look like famous black people to mock them or celebrate them, to painting black for a blackout game, to placing soot on your face to look dirty, to wearing black camo or black facepaint to help do your job like a stage hand; all being lumped together as blackface and offensive.
This is a huge mistake, as every one of these situations on this scale is totally different.
My personal preference is even the worst of these situations (like virginia gov northam is accused of) doesnt warrant expulsion from public service. It is one bad situation from decades ago, and if this is the standard, god help us all if people look in to our pasts.
But even if you do want to hold people higly accountable like northam, clearly there is a level of painting yourself black that is far worse than others, and so we should look at each sitaution individually and the context around it before we just yell; racism.
We all should have learned a lesson from the Covington saga how rushing to judgement without context can lead to some really bad things.
We all should have learned a lesson from the Covington saga how rushing to judgement without context can lead to some really bad things
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: Grambler
I say we excoriate the English because back in the day they only let dudes play the women in Shakespeare plays. Thou must tucketh thy junk out of sight to playest Juliet pining in the night.
originally posted by: UncleTomahawk
We all should have learned a lesson from the Covington saga how rushing to judgement without context can lead to some really bad things
Yet we did not all learn a lesson other than people refuse to cling to actual facts and everyone's judgement is skewed according to their political beliefs. Even as i type this you still believe it is ok for a group of people to counter protest on the national mall under the guise of waiting for a bus for hours on end in the middle of a permitted protest.
As far as blackface goes i feel that really coal miners should be offended more that brown Americans. Newsflash to my fellow Americans who are brown.....You aint black!
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: JIMC5499
So since I did it as a tribute, I'm now a racist?
You are, and we pity you, fool.
originally posted by: hombero
a reply to: Grambler
Let's just not do things that are considered racist and there isn't a problem.
It really isn't that difficult to figure out, and it really doesn't require paragraphs of opinion.
originally posted by: Grambler
originally posted by: UncleTomahawk
We all should have learned a lesson from the Covington saga how rushing to judgement without context can lead to some really bad things
Yet we did not all learn a lesson other than people refuse to cling to actual facts and everyone's judgement is skewed according to their political beliefs. Even as i type this you still believe it is ok for a group of people to counter protest on the national mall under the guise of waiting for a bus for hours on end in the middle of a permitted protest.
As far as blackface goes i feel that really coal miners should be offended more that brown Americans. Newsflash to my fellow Americans who are brown.....You aint black!
The fact you feel after all the available footage that the covington kids were counter proitesting the native americans (who were defenidng the black racists) is mind boggling.