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Central American Migrant Accused of Abusing Girl in Tijuana

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posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 03:33 PM
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a reply to: blackrabbit1

No, you don't judge the entirety by the actions of one. Duh.

That's what the vetting process is all about, no? It's about not judging all by the actions of a few, or one. Which is precisely what the OP was advocating.

Too many seem to want to allow 'em all into the country...this story does not lend a whole lot of positive credence to that idea, does it?




posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 03:47 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut
It is a fact that some of those Central Americans are seeking asylum in the US by legal means.

Yes. Not Asylum. It MUST be in the US. Personally that takes them out of the asylum seeking category and into the economic migrant category abusing the asylum system.



posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 04:05 PM
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a reply to: incoserv

Trump Signs Order Closing Border With Mexico, Authorizing Lethal Force


" Yesterday we reported that president Trump had authorized troops stationed at the border to act in a law enforcement capacity to “perform those military protective activities that the Secretary of Defense determines are reasonably necessary” to protect border agents, including “a show or use of force (including lethal force, where necessary), crowd control, temporary detention. and cursory search.”

That wasn’t all: speaking to reporters at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida, the president said on Thursday that he also signed an order to close the U.S. border with Mexico, adding that he’s authorized troops to use lethal force against migrants who attempt to enter the U.S. "




Within his Power to do so as President to Protect National Interests . The Left can Go To Hell if they think the President and the MAJORITY of the American People are going to Stand by while Foreign Nationals Invade Our Country !



www.zerohedge.com...

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posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 04:06 PM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Agreed, Britain kicks everyone out back to the safe nation they can prove they came from.
We've got them crossing the Channel in dinghy's now, they get processed then kicked out if they have no valid asylum claim.



posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 04:10 PM
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a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

Exactly how it should be. If you need asylum you need asylum, you don't get to say no to every country you go through until you get to the one you choose. That is called economic migration, not asylum.



posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 04:17 PM
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a reply to: Zanti Misfit

This is great news!

CNN, MSNBC, NYTimes, WaPost will not mention what Homeland Security has warned us about. That there are at least 500 criminals imbedded in just one of the caravans.

Like Democrats in Congress, the MSM doesn't give a damn about the well-being of American citizens. If an illegal alien kills an American Mom/Dad/Son/Daughter, that's just fine with those Anti-USA terrorists.



posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 04:19 PM
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Most reports I see from yesterday say he threatened to close the border. Is it actually closed?



posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 04:25 PM
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originally posted by: roadgravel
Most reports I see from yesterday say he threatened to close the border. Is it actually closed?


NO...It will only be closed if the situation becomes "uncontrollable"...something the liberal media is hoping for, I'm sure.
www.foxnews.com...



posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 04:33 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

Thanks for the update. The "closed" was another ATS fact I suppose. I just hope it is being monitored well to lower the illegal entry count.



posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 04:35 PM
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a reply to: roadgravel

The Option is in effect .
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posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 04:52 PM
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Still, details were missing as the White House hasn’t released the order and Trump wasn’t clear about his directive.


Looks to be in "dare ya" mode at this time. He does sound serious about this if some people on the other side want to try it.
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posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 05:22 PM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: chr0naut
It is a fact that some of those Central Americans are seeking asylum in the US by legal means.

Yes. Not Asylum. It MUST be in the US. Personally that takes them out of the asylum seeking category


So, by seeking asylum, using the legal process, they aren't seeking asylum?




and into the economic migrant category abusing the asylum system.


They are economic migrants using the asylum system but I'm pretty sure that this is not abuse of the system - It is the purpose of the current asylum system to provide qualifying economic refugees, with documentation and acceptance into the US, weeding out the bad ones and those who do not qualify.



posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 05:26 PM
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Based on MERIT . Didn't you get the New Trump Memo ? ..Hmm....



posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 05:46 PM
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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: chr0naut

Based on MERIT . Didn't you get the New Trump Memo ? ..Hmm....


Actually, there are legally defined guidelines.

The memos and tweets from Trump that I have seen are full of emotive wording that is indistinct and open to interpretation.

Usually, legal ordinances have very carefully chosen and explicit wording.



posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 06:08 PM
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What do these prospective American Citizens have to Offer Our Country in Terms of Acquired " Skills " ? What are their Tested IQ Scores ? What Possible Diseases may they be affected with ? Do they Possess Any Monetary Value in their Personal Possessions that can be exchange for American Dollars to be used to House , Feed , and Clothe them ? MERITS Sir , that is what Must be Vetted here Now .



posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 07:20 PM
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You missed the point. There is bad every where. Pointing out that crime is to make people more upset then they would be over immigration crime. Manipulating emotions.

You missed mine. Just because crime happens in the country as-is, that is no reason to import more.

TheRedneck



posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 07:34 PM
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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: chr0naut

What do these prospective American Citizens have to Offer Our Country in Terms of Acquired " Skills " ? What are their Tested IQ Scores ? What Possible Diseases may they be affected with ? Do they Possess Any Monetary Value in their Personal Possessions that can be exchange for American Dollars to be used to House , Feed , and Clothe them ? MERITS Sir , that is what Must be Vetted here Now .


Except for Native Americans, your country is built on what migrants have brought.

Your population is aging and retiring from work, which means that the economy will shrink and the governmental fiscal drain will increase at the same time. The working population will be reducing and the dependent population rising.

One way to curtail this is to import new workers who will be happy to be able to work at almost any job for a living wage.

Is Migration good for the economy - OECD Migration Policy Debates

Trump's isolationist policies show no forethought as to what happens after his presidential term. He is bricking the US into an economic corner from which it cannot escape. The current GDP gains (if there are actually any) are unsustainable by Trump's policies and so will have to be entirely thrown out for America to survive his presidency.

Granting you cents on the dollar today will cost you your livelihood tomorrow.



posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 07:39 PM
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Great, then they can apply for visas and we can accept people as needed. Trump is not an isolationist, that's a lie. Anti illegal immigration is not anti immigration.

Construction used to be a good job. Now it's all immigrants who can't speak English. We are doing a lot of construction on my unit, top hospital in the State, on the Forbes best companies to work at list, none of the guys doing the work can speak English. One of them hit a live wire or something, killed all the lights and we heard them fall, they are behind a barrier so we can't see them. We went to go find out what happened and if he needed medical assistance, couldn't even communicate. These are jobs that people wanted before immigration was used to kill the wage and make it no longer appealing to Americans. So yes, immigration is needed, but unfettered immigration has consequences. Only 75% of working age black Americans are employed, so how can we possibly need more people when we have people without jobs?
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posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 07:45 PM
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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: chr0naut

Based on MERIT . Didn't you get the New Trump Memo ? ..Hmm....


FYI...


Although many Central American families are fleeing similar situations, there’s a vast difference in how their cases are decided depending on the judge and the location of the court, according to an analysis of asylum decisions made by U.S. immigration judges.

Whereas judges in New York grant asylum in more than 75 percent of the cases, in Atlanta almost 90 percent of asylum requests are denied.

These disparities suggest that whether or not asylum is granted has less to do with the merits of a person’s case, and more to do with individual judge and where the case is heard.
reliefweb.int...



posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 08:02 PM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

So all of these migrants are criminals and therefore should not get entry?

But the point I made wasn't about whether they should be let in or not.



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