originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: chr0naut
Great, then they can apply for visas and we can accept people as needed. Trump is not an isolationist, that's a lie. Anti illegal immigration is not
Fair enough, but Trump has been calling them illegal immigrants before they even got to the border. They weren't immigrants yet, let alone illegal.
The immigrants in the caravan were heading for Tijuana. Their stated and demonstrated goal was to become legal immigrants by applying for asylum at
the designated port of entry.
Calling them "illegal immigrants", when they weren't, was a lie. There's no wiggle room in that. Trump straight-up lied in public, before the media of
the world. You can't deny it.
The fact that under Trump's executive order, the entry point at Tijuana was briefly closed - to everyone - until the judge ruled the executive order
illegal and unconstitutional, indicates that Trump had no intention of blocking only
the illegal immigrants (who would not have entered through
Trump had defined all
pending immigrants as illegal, despite the fact that they actually weren't, and was closing the border to everyone (even
those already engaged in the process of legal application). His actions clearly show his intentions, despite the apologist BS.
Trump's dropping out of international efforts like climate change, the United Nations, immigration procedure, arms limitations and existing trade
agreements indicate that he is, in fact, strongly isolationist. You can tell a tree by its fruit.
Construction used to be a good job. Now it's all immigrants who can't speak English. We are doing a lot of construction on my unit, top
hospital in the State, on the Forbes best companies to work at list, none of the guys doing the work can speak English. One of them hit a live wire or
something, killed all the lights and we heard them fall, they are behind a barrier so we can't see them. We went to go find out what happened and if
he needed medical assistance, couldn't even communicate. These are jobs that people wanted before immigration was used to kill the wage and make it no
longer appealing to Americans. So yes, immigration is needed, but unfettered immigration has consequences. Only 75% of working age black Americans are
employed, so how can we possibly need more people when we have people without jobs?
Your primary issue seems to be with uptake of the English language among construction workers. Surely that is easily resolved by preferentially
granting access to those who already have a grasp of English and through education.
In your situation, surely someone with access to the web could communicate. You see, communication is two-way and it sounds like you guys were at
least 50% of the problem. Try google translate on a 'phone in future.
Also, some people, regardless of their origin, are unemployable. They may be disabled, they may be in jail, they may have mental problems, they may be
independently wealthy, they may simply choose not to work.
To expect to fill the requirements with the unsuited and unsuitable is a pipe dream.
edit on 23/11/2018 by chr0naut because: (no reason given)