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Trump plans to sign executive order curbing birthright citizenship: report

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posted on Nov, 1 2018 @ 02:17 PM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Greven

That's actually a lie. Obama changed the definition of deport to include people turned away at the border.


A closer examination shows that immigrants living illegally in most of the continental U.S. are less likely to be deported today than before Obama came to office, according to immigration data. Expulsions of people who are settled and working in the United States have fallen steadily since his first year in office, and are down more than 40% since 2009.

www.latimes.com...

Obama drastically reduced deportations and then changed the definition to hide it.


That was the most sinister thing Obama did.

Before Obama anyone caught at the border was considered a return.

Obama said ditch the return term and put down that anyone caught at the border would now be labeled as deported.

This would help give the impression that Obama was deporting , when in reality he was importing.

He was trying to hide he intentions and give false statistics in order to in his words change the demographics of the country.

Should be a criminal act




posted on Nov, 1 2018 @ 02:18 PM
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a reply to: Bloodworth

And so many were fooled. They still parrot that 'he deported more' lie despite the actual numbers proving it was a near 50% decrease in deportations.



posted on Nov, 1 2018 @ 02:36 PM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Bloodworth

And so many were fooled. They still parrot that 'he deported more' lie despite the actual numbers proving it was a near 50% decrease in deportations.


Yes they call him the chief deporter or something.

What a joke.

During Obama's years I came across a lot of illega youth.
I was told under Obama if you made it to the border you were quickly processed and either put on a bus or a plane to any city you could contact a relative or friend.

This was just for minors though. And Obama's unnacomanied minor program was in direct correlation with the rise of ms13.

So they show up to the border and claim to be under 18, no i.d. necessary, no criminal background checks.

Say you are a minor and off you go.
Any house hold willing to take in a minor was given 1,500 a month.

So what happened by me went like this.

Ms13 member rents a house, minor shows up to the border and says he has a cousin in ny.
The gang member who rents the house will now get 1,500 a month if he takes in his 15 year old cousin.
If he takes in 2, the renter can get up to 3,000 a month.

So quickly these house were filling up with 15 young males.

And none worked. And they didint need to with the gov money they were receiving.



posted on Nov, 1 2018 @ 06:28 PM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Greven

That's actually a lie. Obama changed the definition of deport to include people turned away at the border.


A closer examination shows that immigrants living illegally in most of the continental U.S. are less likely to be deported today than before Obama came to office, according to immigration data. Expulsions of people who are settled and working in the United States have fallen steadily since his first year in office, and are down more than 40% since 2009.

www.latimes.com...

Obama drastically reduced deportations and then changed the definition to hide it.




originally posted by: Bloodworth

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Greven

That's actually a lie. Obama changed the definition of deport to include people turned away at the border.


A closer examination shows that immigrants living illegally in most of the continental U.S. are less likely to be deported today than before Obama came to office, according to immigration data. Expulsions of people who are settled and working in the United States have fallen steadily since his first year in office, and are down more than 40% since 2009.

www.latimes.com...

Obama drastically reduced deportations and then changed the definition to hide it.


That was the most sinister thing Obama did.

Before Obama anyone caught at the border was considered a return.

Obama said ditch the return term and put down that anyone caught at the border would now be labeled as deported.

This would help give the impression that Obama was deporting , when in reality he was importing.

He was trying to hide he intentions and give false statistics in order to in his words change the demographics of the country.

Should be a criminal act


Let's get some definitions clear before the both of you go talking about changes to definitions; these didn't change:
Removal: The compulsory movement of a noncitizen out of the United States based on a formal order of removal.

Return: The movement of a noncitizen out of the United States based on permission to withdraw their application for admission at the border or an order of voluntary departure.

Additionally, Removal has lasting legal consequences. This is why President Obama's administration focused on Removals, and why they applied it to people caught crossing the border.

So two questions for you both:
Is a Removal deportation?
Is a Return deportation?



posted on Nov, 1 2018 @ 07:58 PM
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a reply to: Greven


Expulsions of people who are settled and working in the United States have fallen steadily since his first year in office, and are down more than 40% since 2009.

On the other side of the ledger, the number of people deported at or near the border has gone up — primarily as a result of changing who gets counted in the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency's deportation statistics.

The vast majority of those border crossers would not have been treated as formal deportations under most previous administrations. If all removals were tallied, the total sent back to Mexico each year would have been far higher under those previous administrations than it is now.

www.latimes.com...

I already sourced it. I don't know why you can't just read it.


"If you are a run-of-the-mill immigrant here illegally, your odds of getting deported are close to zero — it's just highly unlikely to happen," John Sandweg, until recently the acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said in an interview.

edit on 1-11-2018 by OccamsRazor04 because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 1 2018 @ 08:35 PM
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About time!



posted on Nov, 11 2018 @ 05:00 PM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Trump can sign his name?

Maybe he is qualified to be POTUS after all.


Someone get Forest a hat and a balloon.




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