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originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: ketsuko
Heaven does not have merchant's, we don't work for a wage there since God gives freely to all that have need.
"Hell is full of good meanings, but heaven is full of good works" ~ Unknown
originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: LABTECH767
You do realize that the "poor" of America have better standards of living then the richest of other countries, right?
So your whole argument falls apart simply on that.
What FCD was trying to say is that socialists see America as a way to have enough money available to actually achieve the dream of making socialism (Marxism. Communism Leninism, Maoism, the dreams of Hegal ad nausium) finally work.
While ignoring the whole point that it can't, simply because of human nature.
Capitalism actually does work, in the sense that every citizen has the chance to make a better life for themselves.
Unless you are a loser and always focus on someone that has more than you and blame them for it because they are actually better than you in the game of Capitalism.
Socialists play on that, scoop the losers up and in America make them a political party. Let's call them Democrats.
The top Democrats amass enough voters to gain power, keep gaining power and do well for themselves.
The lower level of Democrats get nothing out of the deal, stay poor and pissed off and keep voting Democrat to make their lives better.
Perhaps you should focus less on socialism as a good thing and maybe focus on the party that uses you to enrich themselves while keeping you poor.
originally posted by: nOraKat
a reply to: ChaoticOrder
The problem is technically not the system.
If you had a genuinely benevolent leader who had good intention to do what is best for a society, communism can still work. The problem is that is not the nature of people who want to lead.
originally posted by: MisterSpock
Absolute socialism will work, it just needs to start with a really strong nation, like the capitalist economy republic of the USA.