Dismantle Mass Media News

originally posted by: introvert

Even if the media is owned by a handful of people and they repeat the same messages, that is their right.

...fair enough. In that case, its our right to investigate those handful of people.

originally posted by: Skyfloating

originally posted by: introvert

Even if the media is owned by a handful of people and they repeat the same messages, that is their right.

...fair enough. In that case, its our right to investigate those handful of people.

Investigate them for what? A crime? Investigate them to figure out their biases?

Sure, but to want to "dismantle" them for no good reason?

No.

a reply to: CB328

Are you suggesting our president bought all of his votes?

I’m confused...

originally posted by: introvert


Sure, but to want to "dismantle" them for no good reason?

If they are shown to be run by organized crime, then yes, dismantle them.

The thing about the big bad evil news is, if you don't like what it's saying, just turn it off.


People are such snowflakes lately.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Skyfloating

The reason we want the MSM fined or even shut down is not to stifle freedom of speech but because all major news organizations are owned by a handful of people that all repeat the same messages, sometimes verbatim. This points to them being owned by the same group of people. Talk about Unconstitutional! Articles like these, frame us as anti-free-speech and anti-free-market, when its actually the covert agenda of the MSM that is both.

The entire point of the freedom of the press is to spread an idea/your beliefs to others. That right still exists, whether the press is owned by a handful of people that repeat the same messages or not.

So yes, your reasoning is to stifle free speech and freedom of the press.

I thought the OP was about the news. The news is not a platform to "spread an idea/your beliefs to others", it's NEWS. Expecting impartiality and facts in the news is not stifling free speech. They are free to spread their ideas/beliefs on the Editorial page, just keep your opinions out of my news.

a reply to: Skyfloating

The reason we want the MSM fined or even shut down is not to stifle freedom of speech but because all major news organizations are owned by a handful of people that all repeat the same messages, sometimes verbatim.

So, not only do you admit that you want them shut down - you're saying that the owners shouldn't be allowed to decide how to run their own organizations?

a reply to: Skyfloating

If they are shown to be run by organized crime, then yes, dismantle them.

In much the same way then we should be allowed to investigate and dismantle the presidency

originally posted by: Skyfloating

originally posted by: introvert


Sure, but to want to "dismantle" them for no good reason?

If they are shown to be run by organized crime, then yes, dismantle them.

If that is true, you have proof of crimes committed, right?

You're not just saying things that sound good, yet have no root in reality, right?

originally posted by: underpass61

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Skyfloating

The reason we want the MSM fined or even shut down is not to stifle freedom of speech but because all major news organizations are owned by a handful of people that all repeat the same messages, sometimes verbatim. This points to them being owned by the same group of people. Talk about Unconstitutional! Articles like these, frame us as anti-free-speech and anti-free-market, when its actually the covert agenda of the MSM that is both.

The entire point of the freedom of the press is to spread an idea/your beliefs to others. That right still exists, whether the press is owned by a handful of people that repeat the same messages or not.

So yes, your reasoning is to stifle free speech and freedom of the press.

I thought the OP was about the news. The news is not a platform to "spread an idea/your beliefs to others", it's NEWS. Expecting impartiality and facts in the news is not stifling free speech. They are free to spread their ideas/beliefs on the Editorial page, just keep your opinions out of my news.

It is their free press. They can do what they like, and pay the consequences when applicable.

You don't like what they do with their free press, such as keep their opinions out of the "news", then start your own free press.

Quit complaining about what others do with their freedoms. Exercise your own.

News is fine - there is a multitude of independent and even non partisan sources to verify stories. Beyond the "big 6" there is a ton of places you can still get news, uninfluenced by the government, as it should be.

It's funny how this is a big thing now, with Trump. The reality is that Trump has such nano-thin skin, that ANY news story that paints him in a negative light to him, is "fake." Even when 100% true. And then his constituents back him up. The reality is that Trump supporters ONLY want sources negative of Trump to be "shut down." Which is ridiculously Putin-like.. very authoritarian.

Past Presidents dealt with the same negative criticism, but had enough maturity and resolve to ignore it, or call it out if blatantly wrong. The last President I can think of that was this much an enemy of the media was.. Nixon. hmm.

Trump wants 100% acceptance by all. Which is laughably ridiculous. But.. doesn't stop him from throwing tantrums and making threats. "Oh.. but Trump is a citizen, he is just making an opinion as a citizen!" Bullsnip. He is the POTUS, and wields a great amount of power and influence, and it is NOT just "an opinion," it is tantamount to a threat. Rich-boy Trump is simply not used to having anyone question him or his methods. To suggest he is perfect and there is no negative news to print about him is LAUGHABLY wrong.

These so called news people in the MSM are not simply exercising "free speech", they are purposely and knowingly deceiving people with falsehoods, and also inciting crimes, giving certain people the podium in their broadcasts to incite violence against their enemies and the incitement of subversion of the laws of the USA.

They incite racism and violence, they condone violence and even encourage it against Trump and all those connected to Trump. They are inciting civil upheaval and even provoking civil war with almost everything they say because they misrepresent and bear false witness against all Americans. Many people have died as a direct result of the MSM encouraging and inciting racism. Many police officers have been murdered because of the direct result of these things.

It is long past due to terminate broadcasting rights and clear out every UHF and VHF television channel FCC assignments and start brand new. Seize the assets of ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC and bulldoze the printing presses of the Associated press and all of their affiliated news papers presses for all of the above crimes.

Fox news hasn't done any of those things so leave them alone, except to re-establish a unified code of conduct when reporting news and hold them to it. (All that FOX news does on a 24 hour basis is report to us what all the other television broadcasters are saying about Trump NON STOP)
(Might good just for decency to shut them down too though, they can all be retired and keep the money they have but never broadcast again).

HA HA
I would love to see that happen. A Doomsday scenario of ACCOUNTABILITY FOR LYING.

originally posted by: Skyfloating

originally posted by: introvert

Even if the media is owned by a handful of people and they repeat the same messages, that is their right.

...fair enough. In that case, its our right to investigate those handful of people.

More than a right it is a duty. Nothing within the realms of common sense states we should allow wholesale political and social manipulation just because a few multibillionaires can influence the many.

they are purposely and knowingly deceiving people with falsehoods

There are not many outright falsehoods in the news, and the ones that there are are vastly outnumbered by conservative falsehoods from religion and politics and especially the President.

a reply to: Sublimecraft

I just saw that, apparently it's the result of low veiwership.

"According to Deadline and The Hollywood Reporter, both cancelations are the result of underwhelming viewership numbers." Et al.

Source:
www.theverge.com...

They didn't even know about cancellations until Twitter that Friday, lol.

A stunning reality breaker for the liberal echo chamber that is.

originally posted by: CB328

they are purposely and knowingly deceiving people with falsehoods

There are not many outright falsehoods in the news, and the ones that there are are vastly outnumbered by conservative falsehoods from religion and politics and especially the President.

Remember when Trump threw food in the Japanese pond?

originally posted by: CB328

they are purposely and knowingly deceiving people with falsehoods

There are not many outright falsehoods in the news, and the ones that there are are vastly outnumbered by conservative falsehoods from religion and politics and especially the President.

that's false, however I wouldn't expect a hyper partisan user such as yourself to understand that.

originally posted by: Jonjonj

originally posted by: CB328

they are purposely and knowingly deceiving people with falsehoods

There are not many outright falsehoods in the news, and the ones that there are are vastly outnumbered by conservative falsehoods from religion and politics and especially the President.

Remember when Trump threw food in the Japanese pond?

Quoting myself:


Seriously if we just enumerated the lies the thread would break.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Skyfloating

originally posted by: introvert


Sure, but to want to "dismantle" them for no good reason?

If they are shown to be run by organized crime, then yes, dismantle them.

If that is true, you have proof of crimes committed, right?

You're not just saying things that sound good, yet have no root in reality, right?

Where have you been the last 20 years? The evidence of criminal conduct within "News" organizations is overwhelming.

This is just in today:



twitter.com...


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a reply to: Skyfloating

Dismantle Mass Media News

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