Illinois manufacturer moving to Mexico over Trump tariffs

a reply to: TinySickTears

I imagine an interesting social experiment could be made on how Trump supporters reflexively reach to deflect away from bad Trump stories blaming everything but Trump himself. Also, notice when they have nothing left to say, they suddenly say the product is crappy? Like they've even heard of this company before today to know the quality of the product.

Here's a different link for the story..

www.google.com...



"Al Fletcher, the human resources director at Stack-On's parent company, told the Tribune that the decision to close the plants was made two months ago. While Fletcher said the plant's unprofitability was a major piece of the reason for the layoffs, the final decision was only made following the imposition of tariffs."

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Totally unbiased article too.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: avgguy
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Yep minor details that the company had a whole whopping 150 employees in the US!

That also were offered relocation to El Paso. Didn’t include that either.

You clearly didn't read the OP. This is literally the bottom half of it:

But hey, at least Stack-On cares about Americans unlike the President. They are offering to help people relocate to El Paso, Texas so they can commute across the boarder to the new factory.


" Fletcher told the newspapers that some of the employees will be given the option to relocated to El Paso, Texas, across the border from its Stack-On factory."

They can do all this but not just pay a little more for the material? Then raise their prices until a new deal is in place?

Maybe their product just sucks..

a reply to: Krazysh0t

What the EFF is being deflected?

Stack-On has operated in Chicago — its only two U.S. plants — for four decades, according to the Tribune, which added thatthe company already has factories in Mexico and China.

originally posted by: avgguy
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Totally unbiased article too.

Nope. The first half was my opinion and the second half came from the article.

a reply to: neo96

Yes and? What's the problem? We aren't talking about those factories. They aren't shutting down. The one in the US is shutting down.

originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: avgguy
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Yep minor details that the company had a whole whopping 150 employees in the US!

That also were offered relocation to El Paso. Didn’t include that either.

You clearly didn't read the OP. This is literally the bottom half of it:

But hey, at least Stack-On cares about Americans unlike the President. They are offering to help people relocate to El Paso, Texas so they can commute across the boarder to the new factory.


" Fletcher told the newspapers that some of the employees will be given the option to relocated to El Paso, Texas, across the border from its Stack-On factory."

They can do all this but not just pay a little more for the material? Then raise their prices until a new deal is in place?

Maybe their product just sucks..

ORRRR Maybe the tariff is a bad idea? Why can't that be a possibility?

a reply to: Krazysh0t

The problem is Stack On having plants in one of the most anti gun cities in the country.

Because they make GUN SAFES.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: avgguy
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Yep minor details that the company had a whole whopping 150 employees in the US!

That also were offered relocation to El Paso. Didn’t include that either.

You clearly didn't read the OP. This is literally the bottom half of it:

But hey, at least Stack-On cares about Americans unlike the President. They are offering to help people relocate to El Paso, Texas so they can commute across the boarder to the new factory.


" Fletcher told the newspapers that some of the employees will be given the option to relocated to El Paso, Texas, across the border from its Stack-On factory."

They can do all this but not just pay a little more for the material? Then raise their prices until a new deal is in place?

Maybe their product just sucks..

ORRRR Maybe the tariff is a bad idea? Why can't that be a possibility?

Well if you guys didnt say everything out of Trumps mouth is a bad idea maybe you would be taken more seriously.

When you bias is so extreme and obvious its hard to take you seriously..

a reply to: notsure1

Their products are horrible. I own one and it’s a total piece of crap.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Krazysh0t

The majority of Stack-On safes are made in China, the Illinois "plant" was a packaging and shipping facility. Since the safes are from China, they'd run afoul of the tariff laws and cost more, so they'll package and ship from Mexico to bypass this issue UNTIL the NAFTA deal is truly dead and we properly implement tariffs on crap from Mexico, then Stack-On will either cease selling their poor quality gun "safes" in the US or they'll actually construct a true manufacturing facility here and make the "Made in the USA."

Notice the fact that you cannot find any advertising by Stack-On that touts "Made in the USA." This is because it wouldn't be legal for them to say it, because they're not and never have been made in the USA. In the firearm industry, a USA label is considered the holy grail and, where legally factual and allowable, it goes on EVERYTHING ad related. This is very minor loss which will result in major gains for America down the road.

Notice how the op didn't respond to logic?

Are we going to ignore the part where the factory was already unprofitable?
This shutdown has been in the works for a while now.

Do you think that’s the reason or blaming trump makes the move ok.

Blaming trump over the people hat are doing the move....

originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: avgguy
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Yep minor details that the company had a whole whopping 150 employees in the US!

That also were offered relocation to El Paso. Didn’t include that either.

You clearly didn't read the OP. This is literally the bottom half of it:

But hey, at least Stack-On cares about Americans unlike the President. They are offering to help people relocate to El Paso, Texas so they can commute across the boarder to the new factory.


" Fletcher told the newspapers that some of the employees will be given the option to relocated to El Paso, Texas, across the border from its Stack-On factory."

They can do all this but not just pay a little more for the material? Then raise their prices until a new deal is in place?

Maybe their product just sucks..

ORRRR Maybe the tariff is a bad idea? Why can't that be a possibility?

Well if you guys didnt say everything out of Trumps mouth is a bad idea maybe you would be taken more seriously.

When you bias is so extreme and obvious its hard to take you seriously..

Right back at you except you guys say that everything Trump says is a great idea.

originally posted by: mikell
Already mot profitable and tariffs are not helping. So it was on it's way out anyway.

Oh well

They weren't necessarily already on their way out... A surprisingly large amount of companies and corporations go for long periods of time barely breaking even.

But so what?

As long as their employees are being payed and can provide for their families and contribute to stimulating the local economy... then what does it really matter how profitable the company/corporation actually is?

Well, at least until some moron politician (aka Trump) decides to enact a policy, which raises the price of said companies materials by 25%.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

You know that the last moron politician we had raised health insurance cost by 50%.

But hey, who needs profit...

if we want more good american jobs back first the bad ones have got to go

this company is compeating with american jobs building real made in america items bye useing slave labor and junk materials

and its a bad thing they cant stay profitable if we go a step further and tax there asses on imports well gain 150 jobs of higher pay building the acctual safe and not making the package

gun owners will have 2 pay a slightaly higher premium for a quality safe little jhonny cant break oppen i really dont see the downside hear did i miss something are we really sheading tears for 150 people assembling card board boxes instead of building the damm safes themselfs for more money per hr