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Judge rules that Obama-era DACA program will stand

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posted on Aug, 4 2018 @ 01:30 PM
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This court has no authority in this matter, it's just political grandstanding by a biased judge.

originally posted by: howtonhawky


have a heart


Have a brain.

Honestly this judge should be impeached, the federal government has no obligation to provide any kind of explanations for it's actions to this power tripping lower court judge.


edit on 4-8-2018 by abe froman because: (no reason given)




posted on Aug, 4 2018 @ 01:35 PM
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a reply to: abe froman

Its becoming a trend it seems......



posted on Aug, 4 2018 @ 01:40 PM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Because the former administration stacked the courts, the justice department, the IRS, and other government institutions

with political activists.

Obama sabotaged the entire federal government.

Insidious.



posted on Aug, 4 2018 @ 01:52 PM
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originally posted by: abe froman
This court has no authority in this matter, it's just political grandstanding by a biased judge.

originally posted by: howtonhawky


have a heart


Have a brain.

Honestly this judge should be impeached, the federal government has no obligation to provide any kind of explanations for it's actions to this power tripping lower court judge.



Good to see you round here...

I do wonder why anyone would bother to impeach a judge that has no authority in tha first place.

Perhaps one of your statements is incorrect and the other is an opinion.


(post by howtonhawky removed for a manners violation)

posted on Aug, 4 2018 @ 02:00 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Aug, 4 2018 @ 02:03 PM
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originally posted by: howtonhawky

originally posted by: abe froman
This court has no authority in this matter, it's just political grandstanding by a biased judge.

originally posted by: howtonhawky


have a heart


Have a brain.

Honestly this judge should be impeached, the federal government has no obligation to provide any kind of explanations for it's actions to this power tripping lower court judge.



Good to see you round here...

I do wonder why anyone would bother to impeach a judge that has no authority in tha first place.

Perhaps one of your statements is incorrect and the other is an opinion.



No one said the judge had NO authority.

He's abusing and overstepping what authority he does have.

Perfect grounds for impeachment.



posted on Aug, 4 2018 @ 02:04 PM
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That's enough, folks.

Post to the topic, not at each other.

Do Not Respond To This Post.



posted on Aug, 4 2018 @ 02:05 PM
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John Deacon Bates (born October 11, 1946), is a Senior United States District Judge of the United States District Court for the District of Columbia. He was appointed by President George W. Bush in December 2001, and has adjudicated several cases directly affecting the office of the President. Bates served as Director of the Administrative Office of the United States Courts, from July 1, 2013[1] to January 5, 2015,[2] after which he returned to full-time service[2] as a District Judge. Bates took senior status on October 12, 2014.



From September 1995 until leaving in March 1997, Bates worked as Deputy Independent Counsel for Kenneth Starr and the Independent Counsel's office during the investigation into President Bill Clinton.


en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Aug, 4 2018 @ 02:08 PM
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originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: abe froman

Its becoming a trend it seems......


Would you care to elaborate on your one liner that tha mods seem to accept as something substantial to the topic?

Personally i do not see your point here.

What trend are you speaking of?



posted on Aug, 4 2018 @ 02:09 PM
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Soooooo this judge ruled that these young people will for ever remain in limbo ... great decision; activist judges cutting off their nose to spite their face.
edit on 4-8-2018 by DanDanDat because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 4 2018 @ 02:09 PM
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originally posted by: abe froman

originally posted by: howtonhawky

originally posted by: abe froman
This court has no authority in this matter, it's just political grandstanding by a biased judge.

originally posted by: howtonhawky


have a heart


Have a brain.

Honestly this judge should be impeached, the federal government has no obligation to provide any kind of explanations for it's actions to this power tripping lower court judge.



Good to see you round here...

I do wonder why anyone would bother to impeach a judge that has no authority in tha first place.

Perhaps one of your statements is incorrect and the other is an opinion.



No one said the judge had NO authority.

He's abusing and overstepping what authority he does have.

Perfect grounds for impeachment.


I see that you said the court has no authority in the matter...my bad.

Why do you believe the court would take up the case if they had no authority?



posted on Aug, 4 2018 @ 02:11 PM
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originally posted by: DanDanDat
Soooooo this judge ruled that these young people will for ever remain in limbo ... great decision; liberal judges cutting off their nose to spite their face.


According to his wiki he does not seem to be a liberal judge.

I do agree with you that them being in legal limbo sucks.



posted on Aug, 4 2018 @ 02:16 PM
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Read his entire history of rulings and you will find that his opinions shift with what he considers to be the political winds.

The position for which he was appointed by Bush was abolished years ago.

His positions have certainly changed as he ages, in a ruling about the withdrawal from the ABM treaty

he stated ,the case presents a "political question" not suitable for resolution by the courts."

He certainly likes to play politics now

perhaps dementia is starting to affect this 72 year old.



posted on Aug, 4 2018 @ 02:20 PM
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a reply to: Justso

No,
You're assuming that.

DACA was an executive order. And the President has full authority on immigration.

So just like the terrorist countries travel ban this is another case of district judges overstepping their authority. It will be struck down as well.



posted on Aug, 4 2018 @ 02:20 PM
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originally posted by: abe froman
Read his entire history of rulings and you will find that his opinions shift with what he considers to be the political winds.

The position for which he was appointed by Bush was abolished years ago.

His positions have certainly changed as he ages, in a ruling about the withdrawal from the ABM treaty

he stated ,the case presents a "political question" not suitable for resolution by the courts."

He certainly likes to play politics now

perhaps dementia is starting to affect this 72 year old.


Perhaps just because he disagrees with you does not mean he is ill.

Perhaps kristen failed to provide anything substantive.

What would you have done and why if you were him?



posted on Aug, 4 2018 @ 02:22 PM
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originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: Justso

No,
You're assuming that.

DACA was an executive order. And the President has full authority on immigration.

So just like the terrorist countries travel ban this is another case of district judges overstepping their authority. It will be struck down as well.


What is the logic in having the court strike it down when trump has the power?

Could it be as i stated that trump has a heart but uses the issue to garner your support?



posted on Aug, 4 2018 @ 02:29 PM
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originally posted by: howtonhawky

originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: Justso

No,
You're assuming that.

DACA was an executive order. And the President has full authority on immigration.

So just like the terrorist countries travel ban this is another case of district judges overstepping their authority. It will be struck down as well.


What is the logic in having the court strike it down when trump has the power?

Could it be as i stated that trump has a heart but uses the issue to garner your support?


To make a political statement..... That's the whole purpose



posted on Aug, 4 2018 @ 02:39 PM
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originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: howtonhawky

originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: Justso

No,
You're assuming that.

DACA was an executive order. And the President has full authority on immigration.

So just like the terrorist countries travel ban this is another case of district judges overstepping their authority. It will be struck down as well.


What is the logic in having the court strike it down when trump has the power?

Could it be as i stated that trump has a heart but uses the issue to garner your support?


To make a political statement..... That's the whole purpose


Dang... again we agree.. Just as i said a tactic to garner support of people that believe the sky is falling because of immigrants. The tactic shows that trumps desire for political support is greater than his desire to deport those he uses as fodder. He has said on multiple occasions that he wants them to stay and that congress should make daca permanent. So givin that it is clear that the judge is just going along with trump on this one. Other wise as i stated in another post he would have put more effort into the case.



posted on Aug, 4 2018 @ 02:43 PM
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originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: Justso

No,
You're assuming that.

DACA was an executive order. And the President has full authority on immigration.

So just like the terrorist countries travel ban this is another case of district judges overstepping their authority. It will be struck down as well.


On what grounds would the scotus strike down the daca?

Immigration is a states issue and something that the scotus has the right to not hear the case on because it would set precedence for sanctuary cities and that is something they do not want to muddy up.imo







 
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