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Is there a backdoor to getting at Donald Trump’s tax return?

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posted on Jul, 18 2018 @ 11:34 PM
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a reply to: Kharron

Let's suppose that the NY Attorney General decides to expand the civil case into a criminal one. The Governor agrees, and the Attorney General is able to convince a judge to subpoena Trump's tax records. That would make them evidence in a criminal trial. That doesn't give people like you, me, or the press access. Unless they are leaked illegally, we wouldn't know what's in the records until after a verdict and they showed proof of illegal activity.

This isn't the transparency you're looking for.

But I am a big fan of transparency in government. I would fully support forcing Trump to release his tax returns to the public - exactly 90 days after we have a complete, impartial audit of the Federal Reserve Bank, along with disclosure of its ties to foreign governments. While we're at it, let's have all government agencies release any and all UFO related documents unredacted. Off the top of my head, I can think of a dozen things I'd like to see in the name of transparency above Trump's tax return.

But not the inner workings of the Democratic National Party, of course. Only Russian agents want transparency there.




posted on Jul, 18 2018 @ 11:35 PM
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a reply to: Kharron

In the interest of truth and transparency??? What a joke...Where were you when Obama had ALL of his records sealed so no one could see them??? Hypocrisy at its finest...



posted on Jul, 19 2018 @ 12:20 AM
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originally posted by: VictorVonDoom
a reply to: Kharron

Let's suppose that the NY Attorney General decides to expand the civil case into a criminal one. The Governor agrees, and the Attorney General is able to convince a judge to subpoena Trump's tax records. That would make them evidence in a criminal trial. That doesn't give people like you, me, or the press access. Unless they are leaked illegally, we wouldn't know what's in the records until after a verdict and they showed proof of illegal activity.

This isn't the transparency you're looking for.

But I am a big fan of transparency in government. I would fully support forcing Trump to release his tax returns to the public - exactly 90 days after we have a complete, impartial audit of the Federal Reserve Bank, along with disclosure of its ties to foreign governments. While we're at it, let's have all government agencies release any and all UFO related documents unredacted. Off the top of my head, I can think of a dozen things I'd like to see in the name of transparency above Trump's tax return.

But not the inner workings of the Democratic National Party, of course. Only Russian agents want transparency there.


But who could do that audit? Who could request it?

Should we not start with making sure those who have to power to make that happen are transparent and clean first? Why place such a condition when we know that won't happen without a transparent President first?

Thanks for replying, Victor.



posted on Jul, 19 2018 @ 12:25 AM
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originally posted by: Iscool
a reply to: Kharron

In the interest of truth and transparency??? What a joke...Where were you when Obama had ALL of his records sealed so no one could see them??? Hypocrisy at its finest...



I'm sorry, can you be more clear; what records did he not release?

How many years was he a President? Eight, right? So, why do we have tax records for 16 years, from 2000 through 2015?
Tax Records

Or are you talking about the birth certificate fiasco that Trump started. And even after Trump admitted Obama was born in the USA and there was nothing to the birth certificate conspiracy, why do we still have Obama birth certificate released and verified? This is the certificate Trump admitted to being original.
Long Form Certificate
Snopes

Are you referring to something else?


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posted on Jul, 19 2018 @ 01:00 AM
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a reply to: Kharron

So IF you ever get to see his tax returns and you see he paid his taxes then whats next. You wanna make mine public record as well?? Again, why is everybody in everyones pockets??? Wtf is wrong with people... im not saying this to defend trump, i could care less about anybody's pockets. I only care about my own pockets. Nosy people are everywhere pfffft, pathetic



posted on Jul, 19 2018 @ 07:07 AM
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Anyone else find the hilarity in wanting tax returns of 'Russian Spies' ?

Yeah people they got direct deposit, and pay taxes on that type of work.




posted on Jul, 19 2018 @ 08:05 AM
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If there is nothing there, or all financials are exactly as he claims, or he is as rich as he says and never lied about it -- is there any reason NOT to...



You sound like a crooked cop, trying to do something without a search warrant....



posted on Jul, 19 2018 @ 08:43 AM
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a reply to: Kharron

Zephyr Teachout sound like an idiot, both by claims and his name.

Yes, tax returns can be used as evidence in court proceedings, but that doesn't mean that they get to be made public.

This guy is a tool and a jackass.

The only backdoor to making tax returns public knowledge is by breaking federal law...and even then, you will not have the info that Zephyr Teachout pretends will be readily available in his tax returns.


We can also expect the President and his lawyers to staunchly oppose this and try to put a stop to it, but as Americans I believe all of us should be behind this effort, in the interest of truth and transparency. We all need to know where the President's money comes from and why he did not want to divest his interests. Now, more than ever, Russian ties and investments need to be put under the microscope.

Federal law makes tax returns absolutely private--employees in the IRS cannot even access a tax return unless it's a part of a specific case or directly related to their prescribed jobs.

As Americans, we should applaud the 4th Amendment in keeping these things private. Yours and others' calls expose people's private documents is, IMO, abhorrent.

I don't give a good goddamn if there is tradition of presidents releasing tax returns--tradition for the sake of tradition is silly, IMO.



posted on Jul, 19 2018 @ 09:53 AM
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a reply to: Kharron

No. Its not required by the Constitution therefore you have no right to demand them. And you can't sue for them either, because you have no interest in the case.

NEXT hair-brained anti-Trump act of desperation from Kharron in 3, 2 1...
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posted on Jul, 19 2018 @ 09:56 AM
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a reply to: Kharron

You mean like Obama divested his interests? He didn't. Didn't even use a blind trust like Trump did.

You go after that loser POS Obama and then we'll talk. Until then, you're merely another bitter leftist with a chip on your shoulder. Judging by your other sycophant posts here, I'd say my description is apt.

Your double standard hypocrisy makes me sick.



posted on Jul, 19 2018 @ 10:01 AM
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Personally I'd love to see all Presidents Educational Records ... Especially the ones that Claim to be Constitutional Law Professors .... But seems those are even harder for some to produce
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posted on Jul, 19 2018 @ 10:02 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

You got it. If there was something there some Government Liberal employee would have leaked them.
The Socialist Progressives (Democrats) are getting desperate.



posted on Jul, 19 2018 @ 10:08 AM
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This thread is hilarious.

How many times did we go through this during the election, and still the OP is grasping at straws.

Trump's tax returns were audited every year, just because of the magnitude of his earnings. If there was anything illegal there, the IRS would have found it. Obama's IRS would have twisted to make something illegal if they found a way, and we would have heard long ago.



posted on Jul, 19 2018 @ 10:23 AM
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originally posted by: Kharron
Transparency is a good thing. Wouldn't you agree?

I'm more interested in how the sausage cooks up and tastes than how it's made. Even though cooking fresh made sausage while butchering hogs is OK, I don't think I care to watch the political kind much less taste it.

Although, if we ever have another Dimocrat in the oval office would you still want the microscope Trump has endured so far investigating them and their associates from the last 40 years?



posted on Jul, 19 2018 @ 02:12 PM
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a reply to: Kharron




vxn, I don't have time for a long reply, but that is not what I said.


I responded ONLY to the sentences you typed. I even quoted you.



posted on Jul, 19 2018 @ 03:22 PM
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originally posted by: BlueAjah
This thread is hilarious.

How many times did we go through this during the election, and still the OP is grasping at straws.

Trump's tax returns were audited every year, just because of the magnitude of his earnings. If there was anything illegal there, the IRS would have found it. Obama's IRS would have twisted to make something illegal if they found a way, and we would have heard long ago.



BlueAjah makes one hell of a point here.

Not only was he audited every year, but Obama/Lerner's IRS would have absolutely made him a target like they did the tea party

Thanks for the reminder B/A



posted on Jul, 19 2018 @ 05:41 PM
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I would think a bigger issue along with the Clinton Foundation is not having Obama's genuine birth certificate especially when you consider Trumps tax filing has undergone numerous IRS audits. It would take a team of accountants to review his taxes that have already been scrutinized. Some Johnny know it all from NY isn't going to have any idea what he is looking at. a reply to: Kharron



posted on Jul, 19 2018 @ 07:21 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Metallicus

Yep.

Op wants to break the law to get what they want.

In other words.

Same snip different day same party.


No you d*** fool.


On June 14, the New York State attorney general, Barbara Underwood, filed a civil complaint against President Trump and his three oldest children, accusing them of “persistently illegal conduct” in using the Donald J. Trump Foundation as “little more than a checkbook for payments from Mr. Trump or his businesses to nonprofits, regardless of their purpose or legality.”

Ms. Underwood believes there is abundant evidence to bring criminal charges against Mr. Trump as well. She made that position very clear in the letters she sent to the Internal Revenue Service and the Federal Election Commission in Washington recommending “further investigation and legal action.”
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And as the IRS is not taking action on this complaint ...'


Ms. Underwood sent those letters, at the same time she filed the civil complaint, because New York state law does not grant her automatic authority to initiate criminal investigations.

Her criminal referral to Washington noted that it would be a crime for the president to interfere in such an investigation.

However, given Mr. Trump’s assertion that he has the power to halt any criminal inquiry and to pardon himself for federal crimes, a criminal investigation by any part of the federal executive branch seems highly unlikely.

The attorney general could, however, easily gain that authority. All that’s needed is for Gov. Andrew Cuomo, the New York State Police or the state Department of Taxation and Finance to make a request, and the authority would be granted to her.

Criminal jurisdiction also rests with Cyrus Vance Jr., the Manhattan district attorney. Mr. Vance has shown no interest, so far, in investigating other complaints against Mr. Trump.


www.nytimes.com...

GSUfthSM



posted on Jul, 19 2018 @ 07:31 PM
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a reply to: FyreByrd

No need to be rude.



posted on Jul, 20 2018 @ 08:36 PM
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a reply to: Kharron

Trump has 515 corporations, his tax return is several thousand pages. In addition, real estate is handeled
very differently due to depreciation schedules and sale/transfers for tax savings. You have to be an expert to analyze this and also see the analysis sheets which the tax payer keeps for response to future inquiries to make any judgments. You dam well know that only negative things will be highlighted without available comment from the Trump. This is why Trump has continuous IRS reviews so they can quickly agree or make adjustments. This is done for many corporations, I had a full time IRS office in my company due to complexities. It is the IRS's job to make sure it is correct.




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