Cannabis Day 2018.

a reply to: Blue Shift

Thanks for the insight. Very true. What our modern culture needs then is a sense of actual newness, of spontaneity, of true inspiration. Easier said than done, but it is the role of artists to tap into the human psyche and explore what is happening, what is needed, or what should be sought for. They say it's all been done but I can't agree. For example, long ago people thought everything that could possibly be invented has already been invented. TV's, what next? Internet, what next? Cell phones, what next? It's always something

So what comes next for art and culture? It will be something, something which alters our perspective and allows us to be and express in a way unlike anything before in history. Can't wait for someone to discover what it will be

a reply to: LoneCloudHopper2


Trailer Park Boys??

(lulz! Happy Birthday! )

For reelz, the world needs another Leonard Cohen.

originally posted by: LoneCloudHopper2
So what comes next for art and culture?

Total immersion.

originally posted by: Blue Shift

originally posted by: LoneCloudHopper2
So what comes next for art and culture?

Total immersion.

Good name for a new strain.

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

I love Leonard Cohen! He's been my favourite singer/songwriter for years. I think his death has actually helped to bring more attention to the man and his work, which is great because it was always so deep and real. He said once in an interview that when he was trying, no one cared. When he stopped trying, people suddenly cared. He discovered the value of just being himself and expressing in a frank, earnest way what he felt. He was always a celebrated artist, but I always felt he was never celebrated enough.

a reply to: Blue Shift

You're probably right :O

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

How well are the fields guarded? LoL

First drug I tried was weed. 2nd drug I tried was cigarettes. 3rd drug I tried was alchohol. I'll leave the 4th 5th and 6th drugs out of this. My buddy use to give weed to his little brother in 4th grade. I started smoking it when I was 14. By the time I was 16 I was smoking 8 or more joints a day. By the time I was 21 I had serious addiction problems. Which lead to mental health problems. My entire family smokes the stuff. Everyone I hung around with smoked the stuff. I thought everybody smoked. I've spent decades observing marijuana smokers. They all have major substance abuse problems. Nothing good comes from it.

a reply to: wantsome

Addicted to weed? Not possible. Thanks for playing though.

a reply to: wantsome

What about Sugar?

Addiction is where we find it, better our own than "There" variants.

Smoked since around 14 also, and have done the 4/5/6 type drugs of which you speak, possibly a few more, everything but mainlining really, I'm not that silly.

I still smoke weed but don't do any others aside from beer.

Nothing good come's from the abuse of anything in copious amounts.

Stands to reason really, each to there own and all that jazz.

The real problem with Cannabis equates to trees, forestry owners, and the paper industries of days gone by.

No mental health problems, that's life just monies and old Men.

Here is a thought, how come now we don't utilize trees and paper in the same manner as days gone by legalized Hemp and Cannabis is actually a tangible prospect???

originally posted by: LightSpeedDriver
a reply to: wantsome

Addicted to weed? Not possible. Thanks for playing though.

I've been drinking off and on for years but I've never experienced DT's or withdrawls from alcohol. We know that alcohol can be addictive. I've smoked enough weed to experience withdraws. It's not like heroin where you'll start foaming at the mouth and convulsing. Weed is addictive it took a long time for me to become dependent on it. If I didn't have it I couldn't function I couldn't sleep I was extremely agitated I had anxiety and I craved it. I've experienced withdraws from a number of drugs. When your brain gets use to having a certain chemical it needs it.

a reply to: wantsome

You must be a very unique individual, because I have never, not even once, felt withdrawal from weed. Alcohol, sure, cigarettes, absolutely, but not the herb.

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: wantsome

You must be a very unique individual, because I have never, not even once, felt withdrawal from weed. Alcohol, sure, cigarettes, absolutely, but not the herb.

I've never experienced it with alcohol. I smoked between an 8th-1oz a day for 4 years. I was high from the time I woke up until the time I went to sleep. Withdraws for some things are different from others. Not all withdraws are easy to identify they can be subtle. Right now I take Ativan which is a benzodiazepine same class of drugs as Valium and Xanax. Withdraws from these types of drugs can kill you. I didn't even notice the withdraws at first. It takes about 24 hours for withdraws to kick in. When I was a heavy pot smoker I couldn't quit. The first couple years I smoked I could go days or weeks without it. But there came a point when it really sank it's claws in. Not as bad as cigarettes or benzo's but there were withdraws. There's two types of drug dependency psychological and physical. The physical withdraws from weed only lasted about 30 days. The psychological withdraws lasted years. Not everyone that drinks becomes an alcoholic and not everyone that smokes weed becomes dependent on it. I was dependent on weed. I couldn't function unless I was stoned.

a reply to: wantsome

Dude.

All I can say about that is, that there is NOTHING a person should do from morning to night, aside from breathing, moving and thinking. The MOMENT it starts to be something you no longer want to control and ration, is the moment you have to stop doing it. The very second, not the next day, not the day after that.

originally posted by: wantsome
They all have major substance abuse problems. Nothing good comes from it.

I would suggest that if you're talking about a place where cannabis was illegal, a lot of people get addicted to the culture and not so much the chemical. Sneaking around and being bad and doing illegal stuff is risky and exciting, and if you're in a peer group that thinks the same way, that will amplify the effect. If you could buy it in a mini-mall, like you can to in California, a lot of the excitement of illegality is gone. Then it's up to the individual and how their brains work. Cannabis is not addicting, but sneaky thrills certainly is to some people.

originally posted by: wantsome

originally posted by: LightSpeedDriver
a reply to: wantsome

Addicted to weed? Not possible. Thanks for playing though.

I've been drinking off and on for years but I've never experienced DT's or withdrawls from alcohol. We know that alcohol can be addictive. I've smoked enough weed to experience withdraws. It's not like heroin where you'll start foaming at the mouth and convulsing. Weed is addictive it took a long time for me to become dependent on it. If I didn't have it I couldn't function I couldn't sleep I was extremely agitated I had anxiety and I craved it. I've experienced withdraws from a number of drugs. When your brain gets use to having a certain chemical it needs it.

I too drank for years with no problems and then it happened. I think you missed my point or perhaps I stated it badly.

Some drugs; opiates, amphetamines, benzodiazepines, alcohol, nicotine, and many others are physically addictive while others (Cannabis, hallucinogens in general and some other drugs) are not. The body produces extremely unpleasant effects in order to force the user to take more. Ever seen the movie Trainspotting? I smoke nicotine. I cannot take 1 day without nicotine. I get cranky and rude and impatient and nasty. It's a weird drug because the "high" is almost non existent for a regular user. I'm a fussy user though cos they don't sell my rolling-tobacco in every shop. American Spirit. Additive free. I'm a classy junkie.

You mentioned substance abuse and that is the problem, not Cannabis. This is the argument used every time. Because someone chooses to take a drug for the first time after they happened to have first smoked Cannabis at all it must be the fault of Cannabis. I remember my first dooby some 30 years ago and the last thing I was thinking was:

I really wish I could find some scag and borrow someone's spike and spoon.

They call it a soft drug but it feels like 5 beers in one cigarette. Addiction free. The worst that is gonna happen is that you will eat everything you have and/or fall asleep.

ETA And you will wake up the next day without a hangover or any other ill effects. Unless you've been drinking too.


ETA2

Heh. Wrong song. Ahem...

originally posted by: LightSpeedDriver

originally posted by: wantsome

originally posted by: LightSpeedDriver
a reply to: wantsome

Addicted to weed? Not possible. Thanks for playing though.

I've been drinking off and on for years but I've never experienced DT's or withdrawls from alcohol. We know that alcohol can be addictive. I've smoked enough weed to experience withdraws. It's not like heroin where you'll start foaming at the mouth and convulsing. Weed is addictive it took a long time for me to become dependent on it. If I didn't have it I couldn't function I couldn't sleep I was extremely agitated I had anxiety and I craved it. I've experienced withdraws from a number of drugs. When your brain gets use to having a certain chemical it needs it.

I too drank for years with no problems and then it happened. I think you missed my point or perhaps I stated it badly.

Some drugs; opiates, amphetamines, benzodiazepines, alcohol, nicotine, and many others are physically addictive while others (Cannabis, hallucinogens in general and some other drugs) are not. The body produces extremely unpleasant effects in order to force the user to take more. Ever seen the movie Trainspotting? I smoke nicotine. I cannot take 1 day without nicotine. I get cranky and rude and impatient and nasty. It's a weird drug because the "high" is almost non existent for a regular user. I'm a fussy user though cos they don't sell my rolling-tobacco in every shop. American Spirit. Additive free. I'm a classy junkie.

You mentioned substance abuse and that is the problem, not Cannabis. This is the argument used every time. Because someone chooses to take a drug for the first time after they happened to have first smoked Cannabis at all it must be the fault of Cannabis. I remember my first dooby some 30 years ago and the last thing I was thinking was:

I really wish I could find some scag and borrow someone's spike and spoon.

They call it a soft drug but it feels like 5 beers in one cigarette. Addiction free. The worst that is gonna happen is that you will eat everything you have and/or fall asleep.

ETA And you will wake up the next day without a hangover or any other ill effects. Unless you've been drinking too.

ETA2

Heh. Wrong song. Ahem...

Look your not telling me anything about weed I don't already know. So what you smoked it for 30 years my aunt has been smoking it since the 60's. My current doctor is an addiction specialist with a PHD from the university of Michigan. I've been a patient of his for 20 years. I know more about addiction then what the movie trainspotting can teach me.

a reply to: andy06shake

LOL I forget to check if there's a reply to a post as I don't post much anymore. Tired of online arguing.

In any case, it seems you have about as much trust in your government as I do in mine. My crikey, cannabis is a schedule 1 drug, in the same class as meth and heroin(really?) so in the states where they have told the feds to pound sand it is a cash only business, no debit or credit cards allowed. I don't know how they "launder" the cash. Heck, even the native Paiute tribe has gotten in on the action with a huge store full of exciting stuff.

The whole situation is ridiculous. The feds still claim it's illegal but the states are basically saying eff off so what happens from here on out is still very much up in the air. We once fought a huge and very costly war some years ago about states rights and the states lost that one so this is either going to get fixed by legislation or gonna be one helluva fight. I don't mean a violent fight but one in courts of law.

To be fair, most all of us here in the US are crazy just look at all the pro-Trump/anti-trump or pro-Obama/Anti-Obama - or even Bush threads on ATS. We cannot agree on anything in this messed up country. Interesting times and all that jazz.

Dope makes stupid people even dumber. -CADpro

a reply to: wantsome

Yet, golly gee, in states where it's been legalized we haven't fallen into the ocean. As a matter of fact, everything is getting better. But you still go on with this tired argument about the evils of pot while in places like here where it's legal everything is getting better, less arrests for non-violent offender of a stupid law etc.

I'll never understand your hatred of people who imbibe of cannabis. People like you cannot get over the stigma and propaganda you have been taught and your hatred of a person like myself is rather amazing.