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Trump signs executive order to stop family separations at border

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posted on Jun, 23 2018 @ 03:17 PM
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a reply to: howtonhawky

If you cant support your attack then dont make one. Either educate yourself on the topic or stop spreading lies.

Ignorance is a choice.




posted on Jun, 23 2018 @ 03:18 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

seriously you are completely off in the woods

I bet you also wonder why things are so screwed

all that bs is beyond the point of states rights

facts are facts

the power to naturalize belongs to the feds

the power to control immigration is the states

do you really want to keep failing?

if so then just keep posting nonsense



posted on Jun, 23 2018 @ 03:20 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: howtonhawky

If you cant support your attack then dont make one. Either educate yourself on the topic or stop spreading lies.

Ignorance is a choice.


you post comedy

how is all that federal power working out for you?

STEP ONE admit you are failing



posted on Jun, 23 2018 @ 03:22 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: howtonhawky

If you cant support your attack then dont make one. Either educate yourself on the topic or stop spreading lies.

Ignorance is a choice.


I suppose you think i am attacking you but i am not

it is the idiotic means in which you choose to continue with the madness

it is not personal

you are dragging us down

you are dragging us down

you are dragging us down

states rights is the only answer but i do not expect you to want to give up any power in favor of freedom

your system has failed

GET OUT OF THE WAY!



posted on Jun, 23 2018 @ 03:23 PM
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i have no plans to beg

no plans to ask again
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posted on Jun, 23 2018 @ 11:33 PM
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originally posted by: howtonhawky
a reply to: Xcathdra

seriously you are completely off in the woods

I bet you also wonder why things are so screwed

all that bs is beyond the point of states rights

facts are facts

the power to naturalize belongs to the feds

the power to control immigration is the states

do you really want to keep failing?

if so then just keep posting nonsense

The border needs to be militarized, and that would be difficult to do state by state. I support States rights, but this is really too big to deal with it that way. We have drug trafficking big time, and I wonder if those who support Open Borders imagine that that too will subside if one just promotes anyone coming and going at will.



posted on Jun, 24 2018 @ 03:22 AM
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a reply to: howtonhawky
a reply to: howtonhawky
a reply to: howtonhawky

When you educate yourself on the topic and constitution get back to me. If all you have left is personal attacks then you can wallow in your own self pity.


Your other option is to point out where in Article VIII of the US Constitution the states derive their authority when dealing with foreign governments and treaties.
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posted on Jun, 24 2018 @ 03:37 AM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: howtonhawky
a reply to: Xcathdra

seriously you are completely off in the woods

I bet you also wonder why things are so screwed

all that bs is beyond the point of states rights

facts are facts

the power to naturalize belongs to the feds

the power to control immigration is the states

do you really want to keep failing?

if so then just keep posting nonsense

The border needs to be militarized, and that would be difficult to do state by state. I support States rights, but this is really too big to deal with it that way. We have drug trafficking big time, and I wonder if those who support Open Borders imagine that that too will subside if one just promotes anyone coming and going at will.


Bush and Obama sent guard troops to the border during their Presidency for the exact same issue as now. Amazing how people who are attacking Trump leave out that little tidbit of info.



posted on Jun, 24 2018 @ 12:41 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: howtonhawky
a reply to: howtonhawky
a reply to: howtonhawky
a reply to: howtonhawky

When you educate yourself on the topic and constitution get back to me. If all you have left is personal attacks then you can wallow in your own self pity.


Your other option is to point out where in Article VIII of the US Constitution the states derive their authority when dealing with foreign governments and treaties.


Satan and the NWO are proud of you.

However your ignorance be defeated.

You can save your bs choices and stick them.

You do not want me to state your choices.

Stupidity for decades backed up by jack booted thugs.

Keep bangin your head against that wall and it will get the best of you.

Funny that you are in favor of continued failure and you back it up with excuses to not follow the constitution in a manner that works just cause you are too hard headed to find another path.

So how much do you garner from the injustice.

My guess would be that you are doing just fine sucking off the NWO tit while calling it service to your country.

If you would just take a deep breath and choose freedom then your conscious would guide you.

How about stop the protectionism of injustice.

There are other options.



posted on Jun, 24 2018 @ 10:33 PM
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Those of you that want open borders, there are plenty of locations opening their borders, go there. There is a reason why many of the wealthy liberal politicians all over the western world are in the whitest neighborhoods, and want to block migrants from their schools and neighborhoods. They know what's up.

You can open your house's doors wide open, and go about telling the homeless you'll pay them to come into your house, it's just about the same, and if you don't see the problem with that you're a lost cause.

A little black pigeon.



you just don't understand, they vote socialist, they don't learn. They're going to destroy california like they did to all their failed states south of the border.
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posted on Jun, 25 2018 @ 03:36 AM
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a reply to: howtonhawky

So nothing on topic and all personal attacks and self wallow. As I said you are on your own.



posted on Jun, 25 2018 @ 03:38 AM
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originally posted by: Xenogears


Those of you that want open borders, there are plenty of locations opening their borders, go there. There is a reason why many of the wealthy liberal politicians all over the western world are in the whitest neighborhoods, and want to block migrants from their schools and neighborhoods. They know what's up.

You can open your house's doors wide open, and go about telling the homeless you'll pay them to come into your house, it's just about the same, and if you don't see the problem with that you're a lost cause.

A little black pigeon.



you just don't understand, they vote socialist, they don't learn. They're going to destroy california like they did to all their failed states south of the border.


Not to mention how open borders affect Canada or Mexico, especially Mexico.

If people are so desperate to come to the US then do it legally.
plain and simple.



posted on Jun, 25 2018 @ 08:24 AM
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a reply to: Aazadan

Well, considering that there's no evidence that we have a time machine and sent these illegal immigrants back in time to Nazi Germany, I doubt that the straw-man issue of "concentration camps" matters.

Oh, I see, you meant detention facilities where parties linked with adults who chose to break federal law (or minors who broke federal law by their own actions) by entering the country illegally are held temporarily until due process can be completed are held?

That might be semantics to you and others using hyperbole to describe this situation, but to people paying attention, when you use language like "concentration camps," people tend to laugh at the absurdity.

Pro tip.

(sorry for the late response, but such a silly claim earned a response)



posted on Jun, 25 2018 @ 10:51 AM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: howtonhawky

So nothing on topic and all personal attacks and self wallow. As I said you are on your own.


your willingness to power the fed continually is an attack on freedom for all

the founders defeated peeps like you in order to be free and now you deny that freedom by failing to recognize they did not want the fed to dictate to them in this manner. otherwise they would have specifically said immigration instead of naturalization.

if we can not find common ground as to why they wrote the constitution then nothing past that point can be agreed upon cause after that is when we began to see the unconstitutional rulings being put in place




posted on Jun, 25 2018 @ 12:40 PM
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a reply to: SlapMonkey

Concentration camp is a proper description going by the definition of one. Why are you trying to be so PC about things rather than calling them what they are?



posted on Jun, 25 2018 @ 01:37 PM
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originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: SlapMonkey

Concentration camp is a proper description going by the definition of one. Why are you trying to be so PC about things rather than calling them what they are?

Well, and the swastika represents spirituality, good fortune, divinity, and other relatively pure and noble attributes, yet in contemporary times, it is now associated with racism, genocide, hatred, evil, ignorance, and many other negative connotations, all because of Hitler and the Third Reich's actions and beliefs.

The same holds true for "concentration camps:" Yes, technically and historically they are a general reference to places where people are detained for myriad reasons (like a camp...where concentrations of people are put), but because of the Holocaust and that pesky Third Reich's actions again, the contemporary definition of a concentration camp by nearly any person that you ask on the street would be described similarly as 'those places where Nazis forced the Jews to starve, work, and die.'

See, the only reason someone in modern times would use the term is to elicit an emotional response from people, and that is a childish tactic. See, I understand the psychology of word usage quite well, so pretending that you're innocently using the word because Merriam-Webster doesn't reference the Holocaust in its definition isn't fooling anyone.

I'm not being "so PC about things," I'm calling out blatant uses of words meant only to incite emotion and imply that the CBD are acting like Nazis, which is a tired line of claims that you can now find on almost every thread about this border issue.

I know that you're not ignorant to what I've just pointed out--you know exactly what you're doing by using the term "concentration camps."



posted on Jun, 25 2018 @ 03:36 PM
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a reply to: SlapMonkey

If we don't call them what they are, the government will start turning them into death camps in the coming years. Even in Nazi Germany they started off as "summer camps".



posted on Jun, 25 2018 @ 04:38 PM
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And you follow up with the slipper-slope logical fallacy.

Yeah, okie dokie.

They are detention centers, they have basically existed in one form or another since we've had immigration policies and laws against entering the country illegally, and they will remain detention centers.

It's okay to be wary about potential abuses of powers by government, but when they become absolutes in one's mind, that's not a good sign...especially when the absolutes are unverifiable predictions.



posted on Jun, 25 2018 @ 05:48 PM
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originally posted by: SlapMonkey
a reply to: Aazadan

And you follow up with the slipper-slope logical fallacy.

Yeah, okie dokie.

They are detention centers, they have basically existed in one form or another since we've had immigration policies and laws against entering the country illegally, and they will remain detention centers.

It's okay to be wary about potential abuses of powers by government, but when they become absolutes in one's mind, that's not a good sign...especially when the absolutes are unverifiable predictions.



With government, when you give an inch they take a mile. Do you think indefinite mass incarceration without due process is taking us anywhere we as a nation should be going? In the short time we've implemented zero tolerance we've gone from a period of weeks of detention prior to deportation to denying due process.



posted on Jun, 25 2018 @ 11:29 PM
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originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: SlapMonkey
a reply to: Aazadan

And you follow up with the slipper-slope logical fallacy.

Yeah, okie dokie.

They are detention centers, they have basically existed in one form or another since we've had immigration policies and laws against entering the country illegally, and they will remain detention centers.

It's okay to be wary about potential abuses of powers by government, but when they become absolutes in one's mind, that's not a good sign...especially when the absolutes are unverifiable predictions.



With government, when you give an inch they take a mile. Do you think indefinite mass incarceration without due process is taking us anywhere we as a nation should be going? In the short time we've implemented zero tolerance we've gone from a period of weeks of detention prior to deportation to denying due process.


They say like 98% of those released don't show up to their court hearing and become fugitives of the law, iirc. So what do you propose we do? Release them, catch and release open borders? While democrats provide all sort of enticements that are causing rape and death of innocents, by making them come here in droves?

In some of the countries blessed by your low iq migrants, even 4 years after they come like 80% remain unemployed.

You don't seem to be able to reason.

In a few decades automation will make many of their low wage low skill occupations worthless to the economy, and we will need unconditional basic income. They've low intellectual capacity, they will collapse their countries as the world faces combined energy crisis, economic crisis and climate crisis.

What do you think will happen as their nations collapse and we have free income for all? They will want in like mad, only a secure border will stop them.

The democrats would have tens of millions come in, and go on welfare, massively tax the rich and successful, yet it won't be enough, it will collapse the system. Penalize high iq while rewarding low iq, it is madness.

So sad that someone can't see that if they're in a house made of wood perhaps throwing gasoline around and throwing a lit match is not such a good idea. That is what you're advocating for, and you do not seem to realize it.
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