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originally posted by: ker2010
originally posted by: Wayfarer
originally posted by: ker2010
a reply to: Wayfarer
That's rich coming from a liberal who lives off projection.
Rest assured your open border dream will not come true. The USA will remain a sovereign country. All your bitching, crying, whining, on ATS will not change that. It's all futile.
PS we will keep our guns too.
Again, the fact that you get your fee fee's hurt (from a post that is seemingly proven more accurate by your response) is just more evidence of projection.
I have no open border dream. I have no desire for the US to relinquish its sovereignty. I'm not sure where you made such assumptions, but the most likely culprit is your fevered mind dreamed them up because you've constructed equally non-nonsensical thought-forms yourself.
In essence your rebuttal to my post ends up coming across like a kid shouting "I know you are but what am I!?"
Ah saying I got my feelings hurt. Sorry to disappoint you Im not made of cotton like you more than likely are. (physically and mentally)
It looks like you took exception to the truth that dems are catering to illegals for votes and dont give a rats ass about children (who they ignored under Obama). Did the truth hurt your tiny feelings cream puff?
Give me your address and ill mail you a coloring book full of unicorns and pixies with a pack of crayolas free of charge, I think my 5 y/o niece has an extra one lying around for you.
That way you can go to your dedicated safe space in your parent's basement, apartment, or wherever you live and cope by coloring all because the mean evil straight white alpha male republican spoke the truth and made you cry.
I keep forgetting betas are so sensitive
originally posted by: trustmeimdoctor
I think we shouldn't detain anyone. It's a waste of money. Just boot them back across the border no matter if they want asylum or not. It's not our problem.
originally posted by: howtonhawky
originally posted by: trustmeimdoctor
I think we shouldn't detain anyone. It's a waste of money. Just boot them back across the border no matter if they want asylum or not. It's not our problem.
I am starting to think that if we are gonna detain anyone it should be violent offenders.
Actually i have always thought that but the feds keep conflating the ones who need to be stopped because of real criminality with those seeking asylum
the federal laws are too contrived to function in an effectual manner any longer.
STATES RIGHTS will fix this
Open Borders filters criminals? So what country would everyone belong to? The One World Government in charge? If there are no borders, there are no countries, and no national governments. Or were you thinking of the giant regional areas designated by Agenda 2030? Everyone would be tracked by the NWO..... that's what it amounts to. Is that what you want?
originally posted by: Aazadan
originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
originally posted by: Aazadan
originally posted by: Martin75
A country HAS to have borders. It's what makes the country.
So why does supporting the law make me scared of brown people? Stupid has kicked into overdrive
The United States has open borders between states. The states aren't disappearing. Borders are nothing more than an outline of legal jurisdictions.
I see this argument all the time, yet both the US and Europe are standing proof right now that open borders don't destroy the state.
Perhaps the operating word in your own post is "legal"
Think about that. Do you want to eliminate all immigration laws to allow for anyone to go anywhere with zero accountability? Do you imagine that a plan like that really figures in to the NWO Open Borders Society?
How does open borders remove accountability? All it does is promote a legal status, it helps to filter criminals from law abiding people by putting them in jobs, the banking system, rents, credit cards, and everything else.
conspiration.news...
Billionaire globalist George Soros lays out his plan for a single world government Billionaire globalist George Soros has announced his plans for a new single world government that will rule over independent nations to usher in the New World Order under his leadership.
Speaking at the Democracy Alliance Conference at the La Costa Resort, California, Soros laid out his agenda to introduce “global governance” and weaken the “limitations of manmade borders
originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus
Open borders does not mean no borders. Borders exist in order to define legal jurisdictions. Open borders refers to the free movement of people and goods between borders, not the elimination of legal jurisdictions.[/quote/]
edit on 22-6-2018 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)
originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus
Open borders does not mean no borders. Borders exist in order to define legal jurisdictions. Open borders refers to the free movement of people and goods between borders, not the elimination of legal jurisdictions.
originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus
Open borders does not mean no borders. Borders exist in order to define legal jurisdictions. Open borders refers to the free movement of people and goods between borders, not the elimination of legal jurisdictions.
conspiration.news...
“With our nations united under a single global governance, the world’s economy will be free to thrive with a centrally controlled world bank and a single currency.”
originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
So how would that work? millions of people pouring into the US and getting jobs and paying taxes..... oh wait, I think I heard Tucker Carlson mention the remittances that Mexico relies on from their nationals in the US.....
Border enforcement, where we hunt down people crossing illegally is a waste of resources. We would be much better off letting anyone reside within our borders, but requiring papers to establish identity in order to rent, work, use banks, and so on... with very severe penalties for not verifying this information.
originally posted by: Aazadan
originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
So how would that work? millions of people pouring into the US and getting jobs and paying taxes..... oh wait, I think I heard Tucker Carlson mention the remittances that Mexico relies on from their nationals in the US.....
Take income taxes out of their paychecks. It would work exactly the same way it works for anyone who legally lives in the US now.
originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
originally posted by: Aazadan
originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
So how would that work? millions of people pouring into the US and getting jobs and paying taxes..... oh wait, I think I heard Tucker Carlson mention the remittances that Mexico relies on from their nationals in the US.....
Take income taxes out of their paychecks. It would work exactly the same way it works for anyone who legally lives in the US now.
Ive just told you that the Mexican government wants massive migration into the US so that they can receive remittances from those people. It is naïve to believe that they really want US citizenship. And the Democrat Party just wants voters so they can continue to push their socialist utopia. The Democrat Party is owned and backed by Soros and his billions of dollars in the OSI.
Did you see my post where I said that there ARE jobs in Mexico???? In all the same areas they work in in the US. Why promote a flood of massive migration when they could fix the problems of their own country? Where is Mexico's culpability here? Or El Salvador or where ever.
originally posted by: Aazadan
originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
originally posted by: Aazadan
originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
So how would that work? millions of people pouring into the US and getting jobs and paying taxes..... oh wait, I think I heard Tucker Carlson mention the remittances that Mexico relies on from their nationals in the US.....
Take income taxes out of their paychecks. It would work exactly the same way it works for anyone who legally lives in the US now.
Ive just told you that the Mexican government wants massive migration into the US so that they can receive remittances from those people. It is naïve to believe that they really want US citizenship. And the Democrat Party just wants voters so they can continue to push their socialist utopia. The Democrat Party is owned and backed by Soros and his billions of dollars in the OSI.
See my edit, you edited your post while I was responding.
We, as we say all the time, are very pro-immigration. But what Sr. Obrador, a classic lefty Latin crony capitalist if there ever was one (though, surprise, he’s selling himself as an enemy of crony capitalism this go ’round), is suggesting here is an overt hostile act. But has just the bare patina of “humanitarianism”. Enough for the soft heads and the fellow travelers.
hpub.org...
From The Daily Caller) Mexican presidential candidate Andrés Manuel López Obrador (AMLO) called for mass immigration to the United States during a speech Thursday, declaring it a “human right” for all North Americans.
“And soon, very soon — after the victory of our movement — we will defend all the migrants in the American continent and all the migrants in the world,” Obrador said, adding that immigrants “must leave their towns and find a life in the United States.”
He then declared it as “a human right we will defend,” eluniversal.com reports.
originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
Did you see my post where I said that there ARE jobs in Mexico???? In all the same areas they work in in the US. Why promote a flood of massive migration when they could fix the problems of their own country? Where is Mexico's culpability here? Or El Salvador or where ever.
originally posted by: Aazadan
originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
originally posted by: Aazadan
originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
So how would that work? millions of people pouring into the US and getting jobs and paying taxes..... oh wait, I think I heard Tucker Carlson mention the remittances that Mexico relies on from their nationals in the US.....
Take income taxes out of their paychecks. It would work exactly the same way it works for anyone who legally lives in the US now.
Ive just told you that the Mexican government wants massive migration into the US so that they can receive remittances from those people. It is naïve to believe that they really want US citizenship. And the Democrat Party just wants voters so they can continue to push their socialist utopia. The Democrat Party is owned and backed by Soros and his billions of dollars in the OSI.
See my edit, you edited your post while I was responding.
The fact is that Obama's policies enabled child trafficking and drug trafficking too.
You are obviously painfully unaware that the reality is this is what we can expect....
We, as we say all the time, are very pro-immigration. But what Sr. Obrador, a classic lefty Latin crony capitalist if there ever was one (though, surprise, he’s selling himself as an enemy of crony capitalism this go ’round), is suggesting here is an overt hostile act. But has just the bare patina of “humanitarianism”. Enough for the soft heads and the fellow travelers.hpub.org...
From The Daily Caller) Mexican presidential candidate Andrés Manuel López Obrador (AMLO) called for mass immigration to the United States during a speech Thursday, declaring it a “human right” for all North Americans.
“And soon, very soon — after the victory of our movement — we will defend all the migrants in the American continent and all the migrants in the world,” Obrador said, adding that immigrants “must leave their towns and find a life in the United States.”
He then declared it as “a human right we will defend,” eluniversal.com reports.
So what do you think about that? Do you think its really good for the US? Or for this type of thing to happen in other countries? Soros has promoted this in other countries. And his motive is not pure, as I have posted his own words already, he wants to rule the globe himself.
originally posted by: howtonhawky
originally posted by: trustmeimdoctor
I think we shouldn't detain anyone. It's a waste of money. Just boot them back across the border no matter if they want asylum or not. It's not our problem.
I am starting to think that if we are gonna detain anyone it should be violent offenders.
Actually i have always thought that but the feds keep conflating the ones who need to be stopped because of real criminality with those seeking asylum
the federal laws are too contrived to function in an effectual manner any longer.
STATES RIGHTS will fix this
originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus
What you think open borders means, and what I am referring to are not the same thing.
Border enforcement, where we hunt down people crossing illegally is a waste of resources. We would be much better off letting anyone reside within our borders, but requiring papers to establish identity in order to rent, work, use banks, and so on... with very severe penalties for not verifying this information.
Through this system, anyone who wants to come here could do so and they would all be capable of working and contributing honestly. It would get people into the tax base. From there, we could grant citizenship to any honest individuals who live and work here for x number of years. Ensuring that those who shape our country are represented in congress.
Additionally, it would bar criminals from ever getting established which would ensure ICE, border patrol, etc... could focus on the real criminals.