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The Follies of Activism

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posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 01:44 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

That's his specialty. Semantics and splitting hairs, he'll do anything to not acknowledge he's wrong.




posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 01:45 PM
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a reply to: introvert




Please stick to the topic. It gets very old having to read your childish retorts on a regular basis.


Then don't read it.



Literally, you are arguing against that which is vital to a functioning society.


I would argue that mob posturing, mob catharsis, and impeding the lives of others is not vital to a functioning society, and is in fact antithetical to it.



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 01:46 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t




Splitting hairs now.


It is either enshrined in the constitution or it isn't. Your choice.



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 01:47 PM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1




Ah ok, so your rant about activism has nothing to do with activists. Activists and activism are completely separate in the reality you have concocted in this thread. Interesting. Usually when you are criticizing an action you are criticizing those who take said action as well. But nope, not in Les' imaginary world. Actions and the ones who make them are totally separate.


It has everything to do with activists. Your word salad is tasting more and more cheesy by the minute.



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 01:48 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: howtonhawky

I was talking about using the 2nd to defend rights, not protect yourself. How about slow your roll and actually read the words thoroughly before responding? I know me posting anything that even has a whiff of being anti-gun will trigger you attack dogs, but at LEAST try to understand my point before getting all bent out of shape.


i read the words four times and you clearly did not say what you ment

how bout quit going back and forth with the bs and admit you said

if you defend yourself then you have givin up your right to protest

the post is still there

no need to keep spinning

we all do it sometimes



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 01:48 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: Krazysh0t

That's his specialty. Semantics and splitting hairs, he'll do anything to not acknowledge he's wrong.

Yeah. I've sang this song with him before and know all about his tactics.



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 01:49 PM
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originally posted by: howtonhawky

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: howtonhawky

I was talking about using the 2nd to defend rights, not protect yourself. How about slow your roll and actually read the words thoroughly before responding? I know me posting anything that even has a whiff of being anti-gun will trigger you attack dogs, but at LEAST try to understand my point before getting all bent out of shape.


i read the words four times and you clearly did not say what you ment

how bout quit going back and forth with the bs and admit you said

if you defend yourself then you have givin up your right to protest

the post is still there

no need to keep spinning

we all do it sometimes


... Anyone going on about using the 2nd to defend their freedoms

READ CAREFULLY for the third time now... Sheesh.



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 01:49 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t




Yeah. I've sang this song with him before and know all about his tactics.


I know all about yours, not because i remember any of it, but because it resembles thousands of years of sophistry.



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 01:50 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope



I would argue that mob posturing, mob catharsis


I would assume you disagree with Trump's campaigning then? Because his rallies were all about this sort of thing. Very "Nazi-like" of him to campaign for political and social change.



and impeding the lives of others


Yet not all activism includes impeding the lives of others. You're using the worst examples in order to paint activism as a whole as "Nazi-like" and reminiscent of the KKK.

How very intellectually dishonest of you.

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posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 01:52 PM
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I would assume you disagree with Trump's campaigning then? Because his rallies were all about this sort of thing. Very "Nazi-like" of him to campaign for political and social change.


I'm not sure how political campaigns are considered activism, but go on believing it. I remain unconvinced.




Yet not all activism includes impeding the lives of others. You're using the worst examples in order to paint scrubbing as a whole as "Nazi-like" and reminiscent of the KKK.

How very intellectually dishonest of you.


I never said it was reminiscent of the KKK. Is lying all you have left?



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 01:53 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope



I haven't compared what he or anyone did to the Nazis. You're just lying.


But you weren't comparing anyone to Nazis remember? Activists are "someone" you know so I guess it is actually YOU who are lying. Maybe not to me but definitely to yourself.



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 01:53 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope



Then don't read it.


Well, that's quite childish.

Could have seen that coming a mile away.



I would argue that mob posturing, mob catharsis, and impeding the lives of others is not vital to a functioning society, and is in fact antithetical to it.


Ok. But what you describe does not invalidate the importance or the right of people to assemble for whatever purpose they so choose, as long as they are not breaking the laws.



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 01:54 PM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1




But you weren't comparing anyone to Nazis remember? Activists are "someone" you know so I guess it is actually YOU who are lying. Maybe not to me but definitely to yourself.


I have trouble reading word salad. I'm sorry but I do not understand your point here.



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 01:55 PM
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a reply to: introvert




Well, that's quite childish.

Could have seen that coming a mile away.


Your demands are authoritarian. And no I won't listen to them.




Ok. But what you describe does not invalidate the importance or the right of people to assemble for whatever purpose they so choose, as long as they are not breaking the laws.


I never intended to. My polemic was strictly against activism, not the right to assemble.



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 01:58 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope



I'm not sure how political campaigns are considered activism, but go on believing it. I remain unconvinced.


Have you forgotten the definition of activism? Here, I'll post it again just for you. I'll even highlight the parts that show Trump's campaigning was a form of activism.



ac·tiv·ism
ˈaktəˌvizəm/Submit
noun
the policy or action of using vigorous campaigning to bring about political or social change.


There, hopefully that made it easier for you to understand.



I never said it was reminiscent of the KKK. Is lying all you have left?


From your own OP:



that would also include your average Islamist revolutionary, KKK Clansman, fascist and socialist dictator


Please stop being so dishonest.

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posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 02:00 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope




I'm not sure how political campaigns are considered activism, but go on believing it. I remain unconvinced.



WTF....

Political campaigns are the epitome of activism.



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 02:01 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

If all else fails resort to feigned ignorance. The true sign that you have lost the debate.



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 02:01 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope



Your demands are authoritarian. And no I won't listen to them.


It is an authoritarian demand to say "please stay on topic"?

What?



I never intended to. My polemic was strictly against activism, not the right to assemble.


People have the right to assemble for the sake of activism.



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 02:01 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: LesMisanthrope




I'm not sure how political campaigns are considered activism, but go on believing it. I remain unconvinced.



WTF....

Political campaigns are the epitome of activism.


Bravo!



posted on Jun, 8 2018 @ 02:02 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Krazysh0t




Splitting hairs now.


It is either enshrined in the constitution or it isn't. Your choice.

Yea yea. Ad hominems notwithstanding, activism is part of our country and there is nothing you will say to change that. Change is a good thing because nothing is perfect and newer ideas are good to improve on existing ideas.




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