The DOJ-FBI-DOS-NSA-DNI-CIA-GCHQ-MSM All Conspired to Destroy Candidate-President Donald Trump!

a reply to: Thecakeisalie

I didn't miss it at all, just didn't respond to that, as Machiavelli was, all the way back then, making a comment on human leaders. They have been that way since the dawn of civilzation.
To belittle what is happening now as being 'even' with something that happened in the 1970's is not what needs to happen.
Watergate was broken and reported accurately by the press then.... this scandal today.... not so much.

a reply to: butcherguy

Got a link for that?

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: butcherguy

Got a link for that?

You are right.
What I should have said is that Obama dropped weapons and supplies to ISIS, while Trump bombed them.

a reply to: Tempter

they thought theyd get away with it cause they never thought she would loose, with hillary in the bag they would have retained control.

people really will never understand how important it was that we elected trump and not hillary.

This is the deep state, and it lost, that's what is so shocking, Yet they keep trying, if they have lost all the political fights from 2016 until now yet they won't give up. If the mid-terms validate the people are with Trump, they might as well pack it up, including Mueller.

So the left targets Trump and anything that touches him or comes close to him while the right is armed with a ton of facts about Killary the deep state and the corrupted swamp and it goes back and forth while the truth is out there in pieces of the bigger puzzle . George Webb in my opinion has put out not only a ton of small pieces of the bigger picture but has a great working theory . In that theory there are people from all places on the map . They say follow the money and that is true but could it be even bigger the money it's self ? Could it be all about power because they know how to create money's but although they have a level of power they seek total power ?

Great Thread CWM! This whole argument really boils down to weather or not you believe what the MSM is telling you or not.
Before you answer that question you have to ask yourself, do they have an agenda? To me it seems so obvious.

95% positive stories on obama.
95% negative stories on Trump.

Does that really seem legitimate to anyone?

a reply to: carewemust


It's an attempted coup to unseat a legally elected president.


The left doesn't want a republic, it doesn't even want a democracy.

They want an ideological dictatorship where all dissident speech is silenced, history erased or re-written, and freedoms and rights destroyed.


They want the Soviet Union.

a reply to: carewemust

This is some super scary stuff, very well laid out cwm! We should ask our selves why as many as 52 federal agencies were stock piling munitions too. Obama and the DNC had huge plans for this country

Too bad virtually all the supposed policy reasons they were supposed to hate him for he's pulled a flip flop on already.

Donald Chump.

and it lost,

Has it?

Trump is full out in the open puppet now.

We lost.

America First was a hollow farce.

Oh, but he still triggers liberals because they hate looking in the mirror.

a reply to: carewemust

Question, because I’m curious and must of missed this in the past, your post says that the wife taps were started months before the dossier was delivered, is there a resource on this? I find this to be very interesting, if true.

Great thread. Dislike the source but the facts match up with what has leaked out of UK intel and watercooler talk in respected UK newsdesks. Pretty sure Uk intel even mentioned it via a Telegraph exclusive their agent 'journalist' wrote for the paper. First credible mention I've seen of this in US media.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Nickn3
Great thread, it's well past time for the story to get out. For the first time since before JFK it's time for justice to be served.

This particular "deep state" initiative has been operating since July of 2015. The number of officials involved, is now up to 150.

Probably more than that. MI5 and MI6 were also used by persons unknown under the ils emergedPatriot Act. It concluded over a year ago in the UKs secret courts but everything about it is secret including its existance so no details are available other than the unprecedented criticism they've aimed at foreign policy lack of consistency and promoting british extemists in tweets a few months back.

The Steele Dossier may or may not have been part of this. Annecdotal but never met anyone ex UK intel that isn't still an intrinsic part of that comunity, defence and security speeches, conferences, appear at DSEI and similar events as advisors and recruiters. If UK intel wanted to influence the elections (which we do as we rely on soft power and use it more than any other nation in the world) but not be directly implacted, it'd make sense to use someone in his position - though likewise someone external looking for good intel would use Steele as he's the best for the job.

originally posted by: onthedownlow
a reply to: carewemust

This is some super scary stuff, very well laid out cwm! We should ask our selves why as many as 52 federal agencies were stock piling munitions too. Obama and the DNC had huge plans for this country

Happens every single year in the US for 50 years or so, bigger runs occur in e3lection years due to unpredictable budget changes. They stockpile purely to spend all the budget as otherwise it gets cut if anything is left at the end of a financial year. Needs addressing as hundreds of billions are wasted every year on bullets that could have gone into the intended use and to help the public but there's nothing criminal other than that.

a reply to: carewemust

This is a prime example of the following:

-when a major story/conspiracy is brewing and its the left pushing a narrative that puts them in good light....THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT THE LEFT TELLS US IS TRUE.

They will lie, lie & lie some more in honor of Hitler (tell a lie big enough and long enough, and people will start to believe it) to bury the truth.

a reply to: six67seven

The only one lying to you is trump.
Not the whole world is lying to you and he's the only one telling the truth.
He's a proven lisr. A constant liar.
He lies for no reason except to lie.
He lies about everything.

a reply to: Sillyolme

He's proven to be a chump for status quo. So why do you hate him still exactly?

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

He's a slime ball, despicable cheater, liar and thief. Better question is why don't you?

Did your mother raise you to like people like this? I doubt it.

a reply to: carewemust

Amazing, here I thought the Deep State, aka the DOJ-FBI-DOS-NSA-DNI-CIA-GCHQ-MSM were all powerful and controlled every aspect of political system yet somehow Trump was able to overcome them? Nah, none of that adds up. The MSM gave Trump the presidency by giving him all the attention during the election to the tune of over a billion dollars worth of free coverage. Remember when CNN would air just Trump's podium awaiting for his rally to start, meanwhile Bernie Sanders rally was well underway? Yet Trump and his supporters will constantly attack the MSM for their bias ignoring the fact that the MSM always gave Trump the lime light, which he LOVES. Remember, there is no such thing as bad press, especially with Trump who, for some reason, is known as Teflon Don. To this day the MSM covers him nonstop, even when there's more pressing issues to be discussed!

So stop crying about the MSM, the elitists who own these outlets LOVE Trump and he loves them, no matter how many times he calls them Fake News.

a reply to: Sillyolme

Yet Hillary is all that, and a mass murderer whom partnered with Al Qaeda, and you fought tooth and nail for her, against Trump for being at odds with her on that stuff.

The entire list of accusations your team has been lodging against Trump since the beginning, assertions a bulk of it all, Hillary+Bill was already long PROVEN to be all that and then some.

But Trump was supposed to be against the status quo so you guys at least had that as an obvious thing you were against.

Now that rump's proving to be just more status quo, factor in all that other stuff, what you worry?

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Oh I don't recall Silly ever fighting tooth and nail, or at all, for Hillary. I don't recall anyone on ATS fighting for Hillary. Fighting against Trump doesn't make you a Hillary supporter.