Video games do NOT lead to violence. Period.

originally posted by: howtonhawky
a reply to: yuppa

are you saying that the military has not used video gamers specifically for their skills? If you are then you would be incorrect. You will even find ps2 controllers hooked up to equipment on ships in many cases. It would be stupid for the us military not to utilize the skills of kids these days. They even used the idea in some of their advertisement at one point.

YOU HAVE TO BE A LEGAL ADULT THOUGH. you are saying kids. see where you are missing this? controlers are a stop gap for official controls or where you cant have a dedicated console.

a reply to: Iconic

What does lead to violence. Why has the USA got such a high number of school shootings for example. Does this not show a society that is incapable of using weapons responsibility.

originally posted by: rickymouse


They are enthused with killing people in the games. My daughter does not think they are good for the kids but my son-in-law loves them and gets the most violent kinds which the kids play a lot. the Son-in-law even goes online through some group he belongs to and plays against other people. He does not seem to be effected too negatively, but the kids are. Maybe it is that the kids were not taught to respect a gun and that is going to be hard to change.

My assumption by your post is you never have played any of these games yourself to actually understand the true nature of how they may affect people. I personally disliked many, but you would be surprised as to what games they do play today and they are not the shock/gore ones of prior years.

Other than the video game playing,their home environment is pretty normal, I would consider both households normal by today's standard. The big thing is probably considered as depersonalization disorder, they look at life as if it is a video game. I see that Facebook is causing problems too with our society, but that would be a different condition than what I am seeing with the video games.

You never know...My kids play a lot of games, one of them is also big into air soft as a sport, but they also shoot real guns with respect and fully understand the difference.

a reply to: Xtrozero

I tried a few a few times, they do not interest me at all. I would rather do research on medical stuff and food chemistry. I would prefer digging in the yard for old artifacts than play a video game. If someone wants to play them, they can. But I would rather go down to the gun club and shoot targets with the grandkids than play a game where they shoot at me and I shoot at them.

I love mall pretzels.
I blame Ms. Pac-Man.

a reply to: amazing

You miss the point. Playing a GTA game, for instance, desensitizes you to shooting innocents. 99% of us will not snap but for those with mental illness that could snap, this is one of those straws that breaks the camels back.

So what you suggest is getting rid of anything that can be considered a straw that break the camels back and set the 1% off?

And no, GTA doesn't desensitize you to shooting innocents.

You can play the game and not shoot anyone or walk around and shoot everyone.

To actually play the story and finish it then yes more violence and guns, and blow torches.......

But the game can played and quite a bit can be done and enjoyed without shooting innocents.


You say GTA or violence depicted in games like it is what will or could set off a unbalanced person,

Like I pointed out anything can trigger an unbalanced person to go off.

You guys are using logical things like violence in games will make a kid prone to violence or a unbalanced kid to go on a shooting spree when the actual trigger is probably something irrational to a normal thinking person and not something so cut and dry like a sick kid played a violent game and went on a shooting spree.

a reply to: purplemer

This is just an idea. I do not know if this is true but what if Capitalism is the cause.
When I google it there seems to be a lot of sites with articles on that subject.
Here is one article (I am not saying I agree with this just posting it as an example of what I found.)
It's food for thought.

robertlindsay.wordpress.com...

quote:

" RL: “You get a lot of good with capitalism – I would admit that. You also get a lot of bad, and one of the bad things is crime.”

Indeed. Excessive capitalism has the potential to breed excessive yearning, competitiveness, envy, resentment and passion among people across class barriers. Combine that with a proclivity to obtain gratification via short cuts (which is all too common nowadays) and it is no surprise that crime pretty much rises with a rise in capitalism.

Even the libertarians and gun owners agree to that. Why the hell would they even need more guns otherwise? It is obvious that they expect crime to rise with increasing deregulation (which is the same as increasing capitalism)."

a reply to: Iconic

Anybody that thinks video games lead to violence are soft in the head and/or most lightly scared of technology.

Want to know what does lead to violence?

Religion.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Iconic

Anybody that thinks video games lead to violence are soft in the head and/or most lightly scared of technology.

Want to know what does lead to violence?

Religion.

Is that a joke?




Both are used as excuses for a persons or groups actions.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Iconic

Anybody that thinks video games lead to violence are soft in the head and/or most lightly scared of technology.

Want to know what does lead to violence?

Religion.

Ahem. not all religions are violence magnets. Blaming religion is just the same as blaming anything else. its the INDIVIDUAL who is responsible for violence. i never seen a bible get up and murder someone have you? No as anything else it can be mis used.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: SaturnFX

originally posted by: whywhynot
You added the term period to your title, It’s not so period. Better do testing on the ones that are playing those games, kids.

Kids aren't allowed to play those games. ESRB ratings.

Demographics. As of 2016, the average age for a video game player is 35, a number slowly increasing as people who were children playing the first arcade, console and home computer games continue playing now on current systems.

Its okay to be out of touch, gramps.

Hahahahaa kids aren't allowed to do drugs or drink either. And they aren't allowed to watch rated R movies.

looks like someone indeed is out of touch.

Sometimes parents need to be parents instead of screaming at the government to remove liberties from adults because they are s--t parents.

Or

They could sit down with their kids and play some GTA with them...creating a fun bonding moment while monitoring if the kid is starting to go nuts...maybe enforce to them that its all fantasy and make believe and that its such a bad thing to do in real life, etc...aka, give them perspective.

Thats how you also can catch if the kid is well adjusted and knows right v wrong vs might have a mental disorder and perhaps see a therapist to check for mental conditions

You're right...kids will find a way...with games, porn, drinking, swearing, etc...so you could really clamp down on them and lock em in a tower, or be the one that introduces it to them and give them a healthy view.

"okay, we've played GTA for a few hours...thats enough stupid violence for now..lets build stuff in minecraft for a bit champ."

a reply to: InhaleExhale

Well organized religious practice is indeed the ultimate joke.

And i suppose i find people who entertain the notion that video games lead to violence to be rather funny also.

a reply to: yuppa

Christianity has been directly responsible for killing more people in the name of God throughout recorded history than just about any other ailment Humanity has suffered from.

FACT.

I've never seen a Gun get up and murder someone nether but plenty of people have indeed been shot and killed by them.

Bit of a difference between pulling out an Armalite and spraying polygons/sprites on a screen than doing so in real life.

a reply to: andy06shake

Christianity has been directly responsible for killing more people in the name of God throughout recorded history than just about any other ailment Humanity has suffered from. FACT.

Christianity is directly responsible?


Not the people calling themselves Christians and following someones interpretation of why they should do this or that?

Christianity like any other religion is a label placed on a set of ideas and guidelines that can be used as history has shown for just about any means.


Its just insane logic to say a concept or thought or inanimate object is responsible for anything other than being what it is.

a reply to: andy06shake

I'm trying to find proof of what your saying but cannot.

"Christianity has been directly responsible for killing more people in the name of God throughout recorded history than just about any other ailment Humanity has suffered from. "

Can you prove it.
If you can I'll accept it.
What I did find is most wars seem to be about resources not religion.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: yuppa

Christianity has been directly responsible for killing more people in the name of God throughout recorded history than just about any other ailment Humanity has suffered from.

FACT.

I've never seen a Gun get up and murder someone nether but plenty of people have indeed been shot and killed by them.

Bit of a difference between pulling out an Armalite and spraying polygons/sprites on a screen than doing so in real life.

The CHristian LEADERSHIP who MISUSED the bible and their POSISTION Are responsible. Not the religion itself. Also It wasnt Christianity when The OT killings went on. Those were Hebrews.
No if followed correctly CHRISTIANS under the NT law have not killed millions.
The Crusaders(lol i call them hypocrites) were killing under the OT that didnt actually apply to them at all
SO many of thos ekillings were thanks to EVIL MEN twisting the Words into something they dont say.

True christianity has never killed millions. If you are a real christian you dont go out and murder people in cold blood.

WHat you are talking about is people who are stupid and hypocrites.

a reply to: Deluxe

"Can you prove it."

Well, there is the Spanish Inquisition, the complete and utter annihilation of the Cathar people, multiple crusades throughout the ages into the Middle East and not forgetting the complacency of the Vatican regarding the Holocaust that occurred to name but a few transgressions.

"What I did find is most wars seem to be about resources not religion."

Religion is a type of resource used to further control over people and places.

a reply to: andy06shake

I mean actual proof. Numbers of deaths do to those wars vs non-religious wars.
It sure sounds like a lot the way you word it

"Well, there is the Spanish Inquisition, the complete and utter annihilation of the Cathar people, multiple crusades throughout the ages into the Middle East and not forgetting the complacency of the Vatican regarding the Holocaust that occurred to name but a few transgressions. "

a reply to: yuppa

Most organized religious practice is stupid and hypocritical hence my ambivalence to believe in the Man-made crap religious texts that claim they contain the word of God.

Good and Evil are very human constructs, perspective is the key, but it's all just really shades of grey really.

Not saying all Christians are evil any more than the other religions, but 9 times out of 10 it all ends in tears, generally other peoples.

a reply to: andy06shake

This may help you.
en.wikipedia.org...
You could pick the wars out that you think were related to Christianity and add the up vs the wars that you think are not.
Like I said if you can prove it I will believe it.
I hear all to often that Christians killed the most people in history but have never seen the actual numbers.