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originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: LungFuMoShi
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: LungFuMoShi
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: LungFuMoShi
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: LungFuMoShi
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: Woodcarver
Not one person on this entire thread has said anything Negative about trans people.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: LungFuMoShi
He wants to wrestle the men. Now that he will be leaving the transphobic state of Texas, he will be able to.
Lol. Consistently calling him a chick is pretty dickish, don't you think?
That's like thread about BLM saying "I don't have a problem with nig***s. I think they are just fine. I haven't heard one negative thing about nig***s in this thread!"
No it isn't.
You're implying that calling her "her" is an insult when it's really just the truth.
The n word always was and will be an insult, caling a woman her isn't, some folk just like pretending it is. Thee folks want everyone to conform to their worldview, to suspent reality and role play.
Again, it's that entitlement thing we covered earlier.
A racist would say the n-word is "just the truth", as well.
You do not understand the physiological component behind gender dysphoria. You are calling him a girl and he is clearly not. For a boy like him, who has to fight for his own identity on a daily basis, calling him a chick is most certainly a dick move. If you do it, you are a total asshole. Simple as that.
Well, no...no you're conflating two very different things.
That particular word was and always will be an insult, it is intentionally used as such.
Apparently calling some women "her" only really became an insult quite recently.
That's like me turning 'round tomorrow and claiming insult at my friend calling me dude. It was fine up to a point...and would require them to adapt to my new way of interpretation.
The meaning of the n word, as far as I can tell, has not changed. It is and always will be an insult and is intentionally employed as such.
What you're trying to do here is actually really manipulative and underhanded, you're trying to asociate anyone who disagrees with your world view with racists.
And it's absurd.
Calling a boy a girl has always been an insult. In fact, most insults that reflect weakness are named after women or typical woman-associated things. You "throw like a girl" "don't by a pussy" "what a #" "panties in a twist" "bitch", etc.
All of those things I could level at many in this thread but I don't. Because I'm not a jerk.
But not everyone agrees it's a boy...and you know that fine well.
You just can't handle that harsh truth. And so anyone who doesn't agree with it has don wrong from your perception.
you're basically trying to bully and insult people into agreeing with you, that's essentially what's happening here.
Nope. Again, you are doing that thing the snowflakes like to do now. Act like a jerk and then play victim when you're called a jerk. Same with people who think they are all about free speech then tell people to shut up when they react to their "free speech". Trump culture has become the epitome of snowflake culture.
Truth on this subject is something I (a person who has studied the topic in and out) and you (a person with an opinion that is uninformed on the topic) will never agree with. But being an asshole is calling anybody what they don't want to be called.
If somebody came up to me and said "Hi, I'm Bob", I'm not going to say "NO WAY, YOU ARE ROBERT, YOU'LL ALWAYS BE ROBERT NO MATTER HOW MANY NAME CHANGES YOU GO THROUGH ROBERT"... because only a total dick would say that. And that is you and many others in this thread.
What does Trump have to do with it?
I told you, I'm not your victim, I'm not anyone's victim.
I'm not insulted, you're just being a hypocrite. Call me what you like, I'm simply pointing out the double standard, thats all.
I don't care about Donald Trump.
The snowflake is the person desperately trying to conflate anti-TG folks with racists, calling them dicks and assholes because said person refuses to kowtow.
If i were your victim I'd thnk or say whatever you instructed me to think or say. You couldn't hope to make a victim of me if your life depended on it.
I clearly have a stronger constitution than you. Insults are only hurtful if you allew them or want them to be.
Which is it with you, allowing or wanting?
Either way we all have a choice, I'll let you make your own while you continue to try and force me to make the choices you deem reasonable.
God, you're whiny. If you wanna call somebody something they clearly don't want to be called, you are an asshole. Just own it and stop whining when somebody calls you a jerk.
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: LungFuMoShi
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: Woodcarver
Not one person on this entire thread has said anything Negative about trans people.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: LungFuMoShi
He wants to wrestle the men. Now that he will be leaving the transphobic state of Texas, he will be able to.
Lol. Consistently calling him a chick is pretty dickish, don't you think?
That's like thread about BLM saying "I don't have a problem with nig***s. I think they are just fine. I haven't heard one negative thing about nig***s in this thread!"
No it isn't.
You're implying that calling her "her" is an insult when it's really just the truth.
The n word always was and will be an insult, caling a woman her isn't, some folk just like pretending it is. Thee folks want everyone to conform to their worldview, to suspent reality and role play.
Again, it's that entitlement thing we covered earlier.
A racist would say the n-word is "just the truth", as well.
You do not understand the physiological component behind gender dysphoria. You are calling him a girl and he is clearly not. For a boy like him, who has to fight for his own identity on a daily basis, calling him a chick is most certainly a dick move. If you do it, you are a total asshole. Simple as that.
originally posted by: Woodcarver
originally posted by: Abysha
You can call me a bigot if you want. The admin will prob take your side, what you can’t do is make a coherent argument for your case.
I haven’t misgendered anyone. The lady in question is a lady. You are misgendering her. I have to side with texas. Very few people want to drop the distinctions between male and female. The politically left has championed this mental disorder in order to normalize it and smear distinctions all together. Hollywood and television have managed to normalize it enough to have doctors putting children on hormone blockers. Parents parade their trans kids around like paris hilton carried that little dog in her purse. Take a look at hollywood. Look at all the little boys in dresses. Look at the little boy who performs in the drag shows. He says. If your parents won’t let you do what you want, get new parents.
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: Woodcarver
originally posted by: Abysha
You can call me a bigot if you want. The admin will prob take your side, what you can’t do is make a coherent argument for your case.
If the admin here took any side that resembled modern polite discourse, they would enforce things like misgendering. Instead, they allow people to call people jerks when they act like jerks. Or bigots. I think it's a fair trade.
originally posted by: Woodcarver
I haven’t misgendered anyone. The lady in question is a lady. You are misgendering her.
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: Woodcarver
originally posted by: Abysha
You can call me a bigot if you want. The admin will prob take your side, what you can’t do is make a coherent argument for your case.
If the admin here took any side that resembled modern polite discourse, they would enforce things like misgendering. Instead, they allow people to call people jerks when they act like jerks. Or bigots. I think it's a fair trade.
Do i get to dictate how you refer to me?
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: Woodcarver
I haven’t misgendered anyone. The lady in question is a lady. You are misgendering her.
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: Woodcarver
originally posted by: Abysha
You can call me a bigot if you want. The admin will prob take your side, what you can’t do is make a coherent argument for your case.
If the admin here took any side that resembled modern polite discourse, they would enforce things like misgendering. Instead, they allow people to call people jerks when they act like jerks. Or bigots. I think it's a fair trade.
Do you know what he likes to be called? A dude. Because he's a dude.
Do you know what Bob likes to be called? Bob. Because he's Bob and not Robert. You may know he was born "Robert" and you can call him that in your head if your own spider jerk senses force you to but you don't need to call him Robert anywhere else but in your head. To keep insisting Bob is not Bob is just being a jerk. By all means, ignore all of the experts on naming conventions and maybe even the judge who approved Bob's name change but, if you don't want to be called a jerk, don't call him Robert.
Because it's real easy to not be a total dick. Not being one doesn't mean you agree with him. I just means you respect him as a person enough to refer to him as he would like to be referred to. Just like any normal decent #ing human would do.
originally posted by: Woodcarver
Do i get to dictate how you refer to me?
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: Woodcarver
I haven’t misgendered anyone. The lady in question is a lady. You are misgendering her.
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: Woodcarver
originally posted by: Abysha
You can call me a bigot if you want. The admin will prob take your side, what you can’t do is make a coherent argument for your case.
If the admin here took any side that resembled modern polite discourse, they would enforce things like misgendering. Instead, they allow people to call people jerks when they act like jerks. Or bigots. I think it's a fair trade.
Do you know what he likes to be called? A dude. Because he's a dude.
Do you know what Bob likes to be called? Bob. Because he's Bob and not Robert. You may know he was born "Robert" and you can call him that in your head if your own spider jerk senses force you to but you don't need to call him Robert anywhere else but in your head. To keep insisting Bob is not Bob is just being a jerk. By all means, ignore all of the experts on naming conventions and maybe even the judge who approved Bob's name change but, if you don't want to be called a jerk, don't call him Robert.
Because it's real easy to not be a total dick. Not being one doesn't mean you agree with him. I just means you respect him as a person enough to refer to him as he would like to be referred to. Just like any normal decent #ing human would do.
If I tell you that you must call me by a certain name are you then obligated to do so?Because I can think of some good ones that you’re probably not gonna like.
But what if i pick something that doesn’t make sense to you or that you don’t think is serious? Or something that you don’t like?
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: Woodcarver
Do i get to dictate how you refer to me?
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: Woodcarver
I haven’t misgendered anyone. The lady in question is a lady. You are misgendering her.
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: Woodcarver
originally posted by: Abysha
You can call me a bigot if you want. The admin will prob take your side, what you can’t do is make a coherent argument for your case.
If the admin here took any side that resembled modern polite discourse, they would enforce things like misgendering. Instead, they allow people to call people jerks when they act like jerks. Or bigots. I think it's a fair trade.
Do you know what he likes to be called? A dude. Because he's a dude.
Do you know what Bob likes to be called? Bob. Because he's Bob and not Robert. You may know he was born "Robert" and you can call him that in your head if your own spider jerk senses force you to but you don't need to call him Robert anywhere else but in your head. To keep insisting Bob is not Bob is just being a jerk. By all means, ignore all of the experts on naming conventions and maybe even the judge who approved Bob's name change but, if you don't want to be called a jerk, don't call him Robert.
Because it's real easy to not be a total dick. Not being one doesn't mean you agree with him. I just means you respect him as a person enough to refer to him as he would like to be referred to. Just like any normal decent #ing human would do.
If I tell you that you must call me by a certain name are you then obligated to do so?Because I can think of some good ones that you’re probably not gonna like.
Yes! You can. If it's serious and that's your name you go by every day in life? Absolutely. I'll call you that.
originally posted by: Woodcarver
But what if i pick something that doesn’t make sense to you or that you don’t think is serious? Or something that you don’t like?
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: Woodcarver
Do i get to dictate how you refer to me?
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: Woodcarver
I haven’t misgendered anyone. The lady in question is a lady. You are misgendering her.
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: Woodcarver
originally posted by: Abysha
You can call me a bigot if you want. The admin will prob take your side, what you can’t do is make a coherent argument for your case.
If the admin here took any side that resembled modern polite discourse, they would enforce things like misgendering. Instead, they allow people to call people jerks when they act like jerks. Or bigots. I think it's a fair trade.
Do you know what he likes to be called? A dude. Because he's a dude.
Do you know what Bob likes to be called? Bob. Because he's Bob and not Robert. You may know he was born "Robert" and you can call him that in your head if your own spider jerk senses force you to but you don't need to call him Robert anywhere else but in your head. To keep insisting Bob is not Bob is just being a jerk. By all means, ignore all of the experts on naming conventions and maybe even the judge who approved Bob's name change but, if you don't want to be called a jerk, don't call him Robert.
Because it's real easy to not be a total dick. Not being one doesn't mean you agree with him. I just means you respect him as a person enough to refer to him as he would like to be referred to. Just like any normal decent #ing human would do.
If I tell you that you must call me by a certain name are you then obligated to do so?Because I can think of some good ones that you’re probably not gonna like.
Yes! You can. If it's serious and that's your name you go by every day in life? Absolutely. I'll call you that.
originally posted by: Woodcarver
a reply to: Abysha
I never realised how close the trans issue is to the religious issue. In both cases the individuals are making claims that cannot be proven, and actually seem to be opposed to physical observations.
On one hand, the claims themselves are erroneous and inconsequential to an unbiased outside observer, but in both cases, the believer insists that everyone accept their claims and change their lives accordingly. Both sides use shaming to manipulate others to have sympathy for their beliefs because logical arguments aren’t available to them. Sometimes they go as far as trying to pass legislation which makes it illegal to disagree with them.
Then you get situations where trans people are allowed to use steroids in competition. Or trans females start dominating in female sports and setting records that no actual woman ever has a chance of reaching.
There has to be a point where it makes no sense to continue treating this person as something they are not, because then these lines become meaningless. Do you want to smear the line between male and female? Is it worth getting rid of those distinctions so that you can pretend to be something you’re not?
I like the world to make sense.
originally posted by: Woodcarver
a reply to: Abysha
So you think everyones personal fantasy should be treated as equally valid?
originally posted by: Woodcarver
a reply to: Abysha
Trans females should be allowed to compete against normal females?
originally posted by: Woodcarver
a reply to: Abysha
Do you consider yourself to have a mental disorder?
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: Abysha
Nope. But I'll call people what they like to be called.
Can you refer to me as 'God' from now on?
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: Abysha
Nope. But I'll call people what they like to be called.
Can you refer to me as 'God' from now on?
Is that what you go by daily and expect your friends and family to call you?
PS Added Stuffs - You know what? # it. Of course I'll call you that. Only a god of your imagination would be so simple as you are. You are now "God" to me. Until I see you misgendering a person again. Deal?
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: LungFuMoShi
This whole thing is a thinly veiled attempt at shutting out people from the LGBT community.
1. We can’t let gays get married, it will ruin the sanctity of marriage
2. We can’t let gays buy wedding cakes anywhere they want, it goes against our religion
3. We can’t let trans people go to the restroom that fits them best, evil men might wear dresses and rape our children
4. We can’t let trans people compete, they’re doping and they’re CHEATERS!
The REAL goal here is to take down everyone from the LGBT community and make it harder for them to participate in society. These people have been shut out for decades. Once laws started getting passed to protect them, the conservative right has gone nuts doing everything they can to move things back to the glory days.